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My Wife has received an NIP from North Yorks Police intending to issue proceedings for:
- Careless and Inconsiderate Driving
- Fail to Stop and Report Accident
Given that the alleged incident was in a car park (detailed on the letter) this seems somewhat disproportionate and has got the Mrs in a bit of a stress.
Any thoughts / advice much appreciated,
Tia
- Careless and Inconsiderate Driving
- Fail to Stop and Report Accident
Given that the alleged incident was in a car park (detailed on the letter) this seems somewhat disproportionate and has got the Mrs in a bit of a stress.
Any thoughts / advice much appreciated,
Tia
Gavia said:
Any damage?
Not that I can tell. It's a 10 plate Tiguan and has the odd mark anyway. TBH if she has bumped something and not realised but someone has seen that's absolutely fine. I will let the insurance do the job we pay them for!
It seems a touch extreme and she's worrying so I thought I'd ask what you guys thought.
jonlk said:
My Wife has received an NIP from North Yorks Police intending to issue proceedings for:
Not quite - she's received a NIP asking who was driving in a particular place at a particular time.jonlk said:
Any thoughts / advice much appreciated,
She's got a simple choice. She can tell the truth and say she was, then later deal with whatever charge she might get as a result - including denying it happened... Or she can lie and say she wasn't.TooMany2cvs said:
She's got a simple choice. She can tell the truth and say she was, then later deal with whatever charge she might get as a result - including denying it happened... Or she can lie and say she wasn't.
Not quite sure I follow...Edit: all of your post not just the quoted bit.
Edited by jonlk on Saturday 24th September 16:17
jonlk said:
TooMany2cvs said:
She's got a simple choice. She can tell the truth and say she was, then later deal with whatever charge she might get as a result - including denying it happened... Or she can lie and say she wasn't.
Not quite sure I follow...TooMany2cvs said:
A NIP is simply asking the RK who was driving at a particular time and place. No more than that.
Oh. Agreed. The concerning piece is intending to issue proceedings for:
- Careless and Inconsiderate Driving
- Fail to Stop and Report Accident
When as far as we're concerned nothing has happened.
Does that make more sense?
jonlk said:
TooMany2cvs said:
A NIP is simply asking the RK who was driving at a particular time and place. No more than that.
Oh. Agreed. The concerning piece is intending to issue proceedings for:
- Careless and Inconsiderate Driving
- Fail to Stop and Report Accident
When as far as we're concerned nothing has happened.
Does that make more sense?
But, right now, she's ONLY being asked if she was driving that car there then. So she can say she was - the truth - or she wasn't - a lie.
TooMany2cvs said:
Sure, but that's not what she's being asked now. That's the next step... She might be offered a half day of tea and biscuits, she might be offered a fixed penalty - both of which are saying "Yep, I did it". Or she might be offered the chance to deny it in court, and present her evidence against whatever evidence the Police might or might not have.
But, right now, she's ONLY being asked if she was driving that car there then. So she can say she was - the truth - or she wasn't - a lie.
CheersBut, right now, she's ONLY being asked if she was driving that car there then. So she can say she was - the truth - or she wasn't - a lie.
TooMany2cvs said:
A NIP is simply asking the RK who was driving at a particular time and place. No more than that.
No it's not. A NIP is simply a warning that prosecution is being considered for certain offences. It makes no requirement on the RK or anybody else.A requirement in terms of s.172 of the RTA asks for details of the driver at a particular time and place.
The fact that a NIP and s.172 notice are often on the same bit of paper doesn't mean they are the same thing.
Cat
jonlk said:
Oh. Agreed.
The concerning piece is intending to issue proceedings for:
- Careless and Inconsiderate Driving
- Fail to Stop and Report Accident
When as far as we're concerned nothing has happened.
Does that make more sense?
That could well just be a police template for the type of incident she's alleged to have been involved in. Personally I'd say yes I was driving it at the time and nothing more. If they say you were somewhere, you may well have not been anywhere near there at the time. The concerning piece is intending to issue proceedings for:
- Careless and Inconsiderate Driving
- Fail to Stop and Report Accident
When as far as we're concerned nothing has happened.
Does that make more sense?
I assume she was in that place at the time as well?
Cat said:
TooMany2cvs said:
A NIP is simply asking the RK who was driving at a particular time and place. No more than that.
No it's not. A NIP is simply a warning that prosecution is being considered for certain offences. It makes no requirement on the RK or anybody else.A requirement in terms of s.172 of the RTA asks for details of the driver at a particular time and place.
The fact that a NIP and s.172 notice are often on the same bit of paper doesn't mean they are the same thing.
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