Horse hit by motorbike

[cbmotorsport]

Rangeroverover said:

Presumably if the bike hit the horse at sufficient speed to cause this damage the rider would be in the wrong even had the horse stepped out. Had he had the courtesy to slow right down and give a wide berth and pass as quietly as possible this could never have happened. If bike rider just overtook as if dobbin was a bicycle then whatever happens is the bike riders fault.

Whenever I come accross a horse on the road, there are loads where I live, I always slow down more so if I'm on my bike.

Try asking your local hunt if there is a sympathetic lawyer they can suggest, where in the country are you?

Some common sense here. As a rider and a biker, I agree.

We're in Cambs. Good suggestion re Hunt, we'll get in touch. Thanks.

[SaraJ]

Register1 said:

I feel all road users must have insurance.
Quite remiss of you to have an uninsured animal on the road.
What if it was the other way around, and your horse did step out in front of the motorcycle rider.
Then who would pay.

The horse is covered by PL insurance, as already stated. Adequately insured for riding on a public road. Same as insuring a car TPFT

All my horses are covered on a PL policy covering up to £10m.

First action of the owner of the horse should have been a call to her insurance company - they would tell you exactly what you need to do, exactly as you would have done if your car was hit by another car

(This thread has been shared on Horse & Hound forum, that's how i found it)

[R0G]

OP - could you take a look at this post please = https://forums-secure.horseandhound.co.uk/showthre...

[njd27]

Dan_1981 said:

Why is it any different from if he ran into your wall or parked car or anything else?

Do you have his insurance details?

Well, I doubt they'll provide a courtesy horse.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

njd27 said:

Well, I doubt they'll provide a courtesy horse.

Probably not, but if you were due to take part in an event, you could probably hire a horse for the required time and then bill his insurers.

But make it a like for like, no getting in a thoroughbred stallion from Sheikh Mansoor's stables to replace your mangy old nag.

[Red Devil]

I think you've got the wrong Sheik. Mansour Al Nahyan of Abu Dhabi owns Manchester City FC.
You probably meant Mohammed Al Maktoum of Dubai who owns the Godolphin racing stables in Newmarket.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Red Devil said:

I think you've got the wrong Sheik. Mansour Al Nahyan of Abu Dhabi owns Manchester City FC.
You probably meant Mohammed Al Maktoum of Dubai who owns the Godolphin racing stables in Newmarket.

I bow to your superior knowledge of the geegees.

[Biker 1]

cbmotorsport said:

Some common sense here. As a rider and a biker, I agree.

I can't stand horses, can't see the point in them, & hate the fking hunt, as horse st is VERY nasty if you're on a bike & there's some on a corner. ALL horses should be turned into dog food/salami.

However, in saying that, I also have to respect the right they have to be on the road, however stupid that may seem, even on a busy A road in rush hour(!!!). If I get too close/pass too quickly/make too much noise, or otherwise upset the horse, resulting in injury to rider/horse, I am liable.
So people, just grit your teeth & slow down for the fking things! One day they'll change the law & get rid of this scourge.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

basically, never trust anything that doesn't stop for a poo.

[SaraJ]

Biker 1 said:

I can't stand horses, can't see the point in them, & hate the fking hunt, as horse st is VERY nasty if you're on a bike & there's some on a corner. ALL horses should be turned into dog food/salami.

However, in saying that, I also have to respect the right they have to be on the road, however stupid that may seem, even on a busy A road in rush hour(!!!). If I get too close/pass too quickly/make too much noise, or otherwise upset the horse, resulting in injury to rider/horse, I am liable.
So people, just grit your teeth & slow down for the fking things! One day they'll change the law & get rid of this scourge.

It's ok, i feel 100% the same about motorbikes and push bikes, so the feeling is mutual.

Love from your resident horse owner & rider

(Just to add... I also feel that horses should not be on main roads in rush hour. I wouldn't ride my horses on a main road full stop, but that's just me)

[elanfan]

Posted by Peter Natt on the horse forum might be useful for OP and others:

Default Re: Horse hit by M/C - had to be put down !
I am very sorry to hear of this accident and hope that the horse rider makes a full and speedy recovery.
Unfortunately it is not possible to post on piston heads for 14 days from registration with the web site so if my reply could be posted by someone that is able to reply to it I would obliged.
Please can the person that posted this on Pistonheads be asked to report this incident on the www.horseaccidents.org.uk web site.
All horse riders are advised to have third party public liability insurance to no less that £10,000,000 (Ten million pounds). (As indicated by the Mirvahedy vs Henley case in 2003).
Check your insurance policy so as to ensure that it is to this level as many policies do not cover to this level.
Once the police (DPP) have decided to prosecute or not to prosecute the owner of the horse should take a private civil action against the rider of the motorcycle.
Below is a list of specialist equine solicitors that will be able to assist:

Deborah Hargreaves
Edmondson Hall Solicitors and Sports Lawyers
25 Exeter Road
Newmarket
Suffolk
CB8 8AR
Tel: [phone]
Tel: [phone]
E: [e-mail]
E: [e-mail]
http://www.edmondsonhall.com/page/1r...e/partner.h...
Wroyte an article on The Legal pitfalls of Buying and Selling Horses

Actons
Tel: [phone] Caroline Bowler

Mark Carter
White Bowker Solicitors
Tel: [phone]
www.wandb.co.uk
[e-mail]

Helen Niebuhr
Darbys Solicitors
52 New Inn Hall Street
Oxford
OX1 2QD
Tel: [phone]
01865 811712
Fax: [phone]
www.equine-law.net
E: [e-mail]

Jaqcui Fulton Equine Law
Tel: [phone]
[e-mail]
www.equinelawuk.co.uk

Hannah Campbell (Specialise in compensation cases)
Tel: [phone] (Specialises in traffic accidents involving horses)
www.horsesolicitor.co.uk
info@horse solicitor

Elizabeth Simpson Senior Solicitor at law firm Andrew M Jackson
Tel: [phone]
www.andrewjackson.co.uk
[e-mail]

David Forbes or Belinda Walkinshaw
Pickworths Solicitors
6 Victoria Street
St Albans
Hertfordshire
AL1 3JB
01727 844511

Mark de-villamar Roberts
Langleys Solicitors Equine Law Group
Tel: [phone]
E: [e-mail]
www.equinelawyers.co.uk

Elizabeth Simpson
Senior Solicitor
Andrew Jackson
Yorkshire
Tel: [phone]
www.andrewjackson.co.uk

Richmond Solicitors
13-15 High Street
Keynsham
Bristol
BS31 1DP
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
[e-mail]

Jacqui Fulton
Giselle Robinson Solicitors

Knights Solicitors
Tunbridge Wells
Tel: [phone]
www.knights-solicitors.co.uk
Work with GRC Commercial Bailiffs
Senior partner very good on equine matters

Horse Solicitor
Tel: [phone]
[e-mail]
www.horsesolicitor.com

www.laytons.com

Mary Ann Reay Charles or Chris Shaw
Shaw and Co Solicitors
Equine Law Specialists
Tel: [phone]
[e-mail]
www.shawandco.com

Arnold Thomson
205 Watling Street West
Towcester
Northants
NN12 6BX
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
www.arnoldthomson.com
[e-mail]

Tozers www.tozers.co.uk

Eleanor Temple Barrister from Kings Chambers in Leeds
Tel: [phone]
www.kingschambers.com

[jith]

I find it almost impossible to believe that anyone could be riding a bike, not see a horse and rider, and simply drive straight into it. My God, it's huge!! I think there has to be an explanation as to why this happened. Jammed throttle, brake failure, anything like that would explain it.

The advice about suing the motorcyclist should be subject of course, to ensuring he can pay should you win, BEFORE you start the action.

Personally, I would let the insurance company deal with it.

J

[Biker 1]

SaraJ said:

It's ok, i feel 100% the same about motorbikes and push bikes, so the feeling is mutual.

Love from your resident horse owner & rider

(Just to add... I also feel that horses should not be on main roads in rush hour. I wouldn't ride my horses on a main road full stop, but that's just me)

I never heard of a dog eating a motorcycle....

Bikes certainly don't hold up traffic, do not need mucking out, do not ruin fields, DO serve a purpose other than a whim. & as for horse boxes/lorries driven at 5mph on busy roads.... I could go on, but won't, as there's not much point with such divergent views.
At least I keep my bike in its domain: roads, & you keep your horse in its: off-road

[anonymous-user]

Biker 1 said:

I never heard of a dog eating a motorcycle....

Bikes certainly don't hold up traffic, do not need mucking out, do not ruin fields, DO serve a purpose other than a whim. & as for horse boxes/lorries driven at 5mph on busy roads.... I could go on, but won't, as there's not much point with such divergent views.
At least I keep my bike in its domain: roads, & you keep your horse in its: off-road

Astonishing ignorance

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Biker 1 said:

I never heard of a dog eating a motorcycle....

Bikes certainly don't hold up traffic, do not need mucking out, do not ruin fields, DO serve a purpose other than a whim. & as for horse boxes/lorries driven at 5mph on busy roads.... I could go on, but won't, as there's not much point with such divergent views.
At least I keep my bike in its domain: roads, & you keep your horse in its: off-road

Yeah, I couldn't get a seat on Sunday in my local 17thC pub, The Coach Inn, because it was full of horse riders on a day out. Anyone would think it was bloody built just for them.

[KevinCamaroSS]

Biker 1 said:

I never heard of a dog eating a motorcycle....

Bikes certainly don't hold up traffic, do not need mucking out, do not ruin fields, DO serve a purpose other than a whim. & as for horse boxes/lorries driven at 5mph on busy roads.... I could go on, but won't, as there's not much point with such divergent views.
At least I keep my bike in its domain: roads, & you keep your horse in its: off-road

I see you are totally ignoring the fact the roads were originally built for FOOT traffic, that includes humans, horses, cattle and sheep.

[boyse7en]

jith said:

I find it almost impossible to believe that anyone could be riding a bike, not see a horse and rider, and simply drive straight into it. My God, it's huge!! I think there has to be an explanation as to why this happened. Jammed throttle, brake failure, anything like that would explain it.

The advice about suing the motorcyclist should be subject of course, to ensuring he can pay should you win, BEFORE you start the action.

Personally, I would let the insurance company deal with it.

J

My missus was hit from behind by a car while she was riding a friends horse. He didn't see her despite the hi-vis tabard she was wearing. It can be something as simple as sun ahead and horse/bike/pedestrians in shadow. They can be very hard to spot and easy to hit if you are not driving to the conditions (i.e. slow down until you can see)

[7795]

FredClogs said:

Sorry to hear this...

Just checking in on the thread, I've got about 150 puns queued up in my mind but I don't want to be the heartless ahole who strikes first.

OP's having a 'mare and all you can think of is cheap jokes?

[Biker 1]

[quote=KevinCamaroSS]

I see you are totally ignoring the fact the roads were originally built for FOOT traffic, that includes humans, horses, cattle and sheep.

[/quote]

What, even motorways?
& pray tell, do people still commute by horse? Pedestrians using the road rather than the pavement????
Like I said, change the law to reflect the times. There are umpteeen 'bridleways' to choose from, never mind the bloody horse being scared stless sharing the road with cars & other vehicles...

[Biker 1]

desolate said:

Astonishing ignorance

Of what??? Horses on public roads are a menace.