A Bridge Too Far?
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In an attempt to take some heat from the smashed windscreen debate, here is something else to get your teeth into:- https://www.rt.com/uk/360655-police-protest-kurd-r...
I have always detested political correctness, the manner in which it frequently suppresses the truth and the stupidity it generates, and this to me, is a classic example.
How on earth can this copper's remarks be construed as racist? Unlike most others at this rally, it IS his country: he was born and brought up in it, and has served his country and the people as a police officer for most of his life. He has every right to assert this, and they have no right to deny him that.
We are descending into the worst kind of darkness in this country because we don't control those who arrive here with their problems and dump them on our doorstep.
J
I have always detested political correctness, the manner in which it frequently suppresses the truth and the stupidity it generates, and this to me, is a classic example.
How on earth can this copper's remarks be construed as racist? Unlike most others at this rally, it IS his country: he was born and brought up in it, and has served his country and the people as a police officer for most of his life. He has every right to assert this, and they have no right to deny him that.
We are descending into the worst kind of darkness in this country because we don't control those who arrive here with their problems and dump them on our doorstep.
J
jith said:
I have always detested political correctness
Usually better known as "basic respect for other people"...jith said:
How on earth can this copper's remarks be construed as racist?
You seriously can't see how it might be racist for him to suggest he has more right to his opinion than others, based purely on their ethnic origin? Remember - he knows NO more about these people than that one piece of information. He doesn't know their migration status, he doesn't know their nationality, he doesn't know where they were born. He only knows that they are ethnically Kurdish.jith said:
Unlike most others at this rally, it IS his country
<blink> Seriously...?In dealings with the public in the UK you need to be aware that if they think it will get them off something or get them something you don't wish to give them they will regularly play the 'racist' card in the knowledge that authority & politicians will often immediately roll over & do as they wish.
As with the windscreen thread let's see what the final result is.
As with the windscreen thread let's see what the final result is.
jith said:
In an attempt to take some heat from the smashed windscreen debate, here is something else to get your teeth into:- https://www.rt.com/uk/360655-police-protest-kurd-r...
I have always detested political correctness, the manner in which it frequently suppresses the truth and the stupidity it generates, and this to me, is a classic example.
How on earth can this copper's remarks be construed as racist? Unlike most others at this rally, it IS his country: he was born and brought up in it, and has served his country and the people as a police officer for most of his life. He has every right to assert this, and they have no right to deny him that.
We are descending into the worst kind of darkness in this country because we don't control those who arrive here with their problems and dump them on our doorstep.
J
Wow, nearly as bad as the copper in question. I have always detested political correctness, the manner in which it frequently suppresses the truth and the stupidity it generates, and this to me, is a classic example.
How on earth can this copper's remarks be construed as racist? Unlike most others at this rally, it IS his country: he was born and brought up in it, and has served his country and the people as a police officer for most of his life. He has every right to assert this, and they have no right to deny him that.
We are descending into the worst kind of darkness in this country because we don't control those who arrive here with their problems and dump them on our doorstep.
J
The fact is that he said my country which means he was trying to indicate that he belonged here (not sure how) and that they did not. I would deem that racist. That is an offence against the law of the country, so regardless of the position he holds he has committed a crime which is therefore punishable.
TooMany2cvs said:
jith said:
How on earth can this copper's remarks be construed as racist?
You seriously can't see how it might be racist for him to suggest he has more right to his opinion than others, based purely on their ethnic origin? Remember - he knows NO more about these people than that one piece of information. He doesn't know their migration status, he doesn't know their nationality, he doesn't know where they were born. He only knows that they are ethnically Kurdish.so he replied that they don't shout at him in his country.
i see this as more a 'the police don't accept or act on what people scream at them' we all know that in some countries you can tell cops to get lost or make it worth their while to leave.
could it have been worded better, i'm quite sure it could, but i suspect in the heat of the moment what he said was quick and to the point, but has been seen in the wrong context.
having had it banded about in situations I have been involved in, the race card is quickly dropped if someone thinks they can gain out of it.
ks police officers have to deal with and wonder how they're able to maintain composure.TooMany2cvs said:
jesta1865 said:
it has been reported that his comment was a reply to one of the protesters who told him to go away as he wasn't welcome.
Oh, no! Somebody at a demo said horrible things to a Policeman!I've been verbally abused for hours on end by people who are just waiting for a reaction to jump all over, its a common tactic. Wind someone up, call them every name under the sun and then act all offended when they get a reply.
So yes, someone did say something horrible to a police officer, its not his job to be abused.
AndStilliRise said:
Wow, nearly as bad as the copper in question.
The fact is that he said my country which means he was trying to indicate that he belonged here (not sure how) and that they did not. I would deem that racist. That is an offence against the law of the country, so regardless of the position he holds he has committed a crime which is therefore punishable.
What you deem as racist doesn't in itself make it an offence. I don't deem it as racist.The fact is that he said my country which means he was trying to indicate that he belonged here (not sure how) and that they did not. I would deem that racist. That is an offence against the law of the country, so regardless of the position he holds he has committed a crime which is therefore punishable.
TooMany2cvs said:
jesta1865 said:
it has been reported that his comment was a reply to one of the protesters who told him to go away as he wasn't welcome.
Oh, no! Somebody at a demo said horrible things to a Policeman!small wonder that they react sometimes.
i haven't got the stones to do the job, i wouldn't like the people i was there to deal with.
We hold our police in high esteem (well most of us), and expect a high standard, but they are only human.
he could have phrased it better, but just because the protesters said it was racist doesn't make it so.
BiB do make mistakes, but they also get a lot right and castigating a copper with 20+ years exp because someone decided to make a carefully cut YouTube video to me is not one of them.
lot of in his face pointy fingers from the protesters.
They are being aggressive in their actions to him goading him into a response/getting angry. WTF are they doing this for? Its not his fault anything about what they are protesting about. WTF are they allowed to walk down a road in London stopping traffic being pointy/aggressive and shouty at our police?
We are too tolerant I think, its swung too far. It is his country, its mine as well. Go protest somewhere else.
They are being aggressive in their actions to him goading him into a response/getting angry. WTF are they doing this for? Its not his fault anything about what they are protesting about. WTF are they allowed to walk down a road in London stopping traffic being pointy/aggressive and shouty at our police?
We are too tolerant I think, its swung too far. It is his country, its mine as well. Go protest somewhere else.
Elroy Blue said:
Ekona said:
I'd like to know what he did/said to start the abuse he got.
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I hope you're never on an inquest jury. .
"The Policeman MUST have done something to cause it. He's definitely guilty"
TooMany2cvs said:
jesta1865 said:
it has been reported that his comment was a reply to one of the protesters who told him to go away as he wasn't welcome.
Oh, no! Somebody at a demo said horrible things to a Policeman!Elroy Blue said:
Ekona said:
I'd like to know what he did/said to start the abuse he got.
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I hope you're never on an inquest jury. .
"The Policeman MUST have done something to cause it. He's definitely guilty"
I didn't read his post like that. I read it as an inquisitive statement implying that the policeman did/said nothing to deserve the abuse.
(My lil' bro is Plod so I'm no hater)
Jasandjules said:
TooMany2cvs said:
jesta1865 said:
it has been reported that his comment was a reply to one of the protesters who told him to go away as he wasn't welcome.
Oh, no! Somebody at a demo said horrible things to a Policeman!OpulentBob said:
I know you like to defend the Police but I think you're looking for offense where there is none.
I didn't read his post like that. I read it as an inquisitive statement implying that the policeman did/said nothing to deserve the abuse.
(My lil' bro is Plod so I'm no hater)
I guess it was just a reaction to the constant 'Police must have done something to goad him/her'I didn't read his post like that. I read it as an inquisitive statement implying that the policeman did/said nothing to deserve the abuse.
(My lil' bro is Plod so I'm no hater)
The fact is certain members of the public are just obnoxious, ignorant and looking for confrontation. Police Officers don't have to do anything before they are subject of constant abuse.
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