A Bridge Too Far?
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That is absolutely disgraceful behaviour towards an individual (the police officer). There is no justification for that, but I think it does show that as a society we have lost the plot when we think that is acceptable and then complain about what the individual says in the face of all that abuse.
If the person who made the complaint has any backbone or any thoughts of him/her self as a proper person, they'd put in a complaint about their own behaviour first.
If the person who made the complaint has any backbone or any thoughts of him/her self as a proper person, they'd put in a complaint about their own behaviour first.
heebeegeetee said:
That is absolutely disgraceful behaviour towards an individual (the police officer). There is no justification for that, but I think it does show that as a society we have lost the plot when we think that is acceptable and then complain about what the individual says in the face of all that abuse.
Have you actually read the article?The article said:
Editor of Telgraf Newspaper, Aladdin Sinayic, who filmed the video, told RT that Tyson had pulled on the arm of the female protester and pushed one of the paper’s reporters.
“When an ambulance was trying to pass, a young girl which was one of the organizers helped to open a space for the ambulance to pass, she did it and she was on the corner of the road. Then this police officer pulled her back from her arm severely hard and she was shocked and she did not understand why the police officer did that,” he said in an email.
“When demonstrators saw what the police officer done to young girl, they started to criticize him of his action but he started to be very rude to everyone and even used ‘f*** you' a few times to ladies.”
Doesn't sound like it's at all clear-cut as to who started the argy-bargy, does it?“When an ambulance was trying to pass, a young girl which was one of the organizers helped to open a space for the ambulance to pass, she did it and she was on the corner of the road. Then this police officer pulled her back from her arm severely hard and she was shocked and she did not understand why the police officer did that,” he said in an email.
“When demonstrators saw what the police officer done to young girl, they started to criticize him of his action but he started to be very rude to everyone and even used ‘f*** you' a few times to ladies.”
BTW, you're right - there is no justification for trouble on EITHER side. But bear in mind the protesters are there because they are angry at what they perceive to be serious injustice. The policeman is there because he's being paid to be a dispassionate maintainer of the peace.
singlecoil said:
AndStilliRise said:
Wow, nearly as bad as the copper in question.
The fact is that he said my country which means he was trying to indicate that he belonged here (not sure how) and that they did not. I would deem that racist. That is an offence against the law of the country, so regardless of the position he holds he has committed a crime which is therefore punishable.
What you deem as racist doesn't in itself make it an offence. I don't deem it as racist.The fact is that he said my country which means he was trying to indicate that he belonged here (not sure how) and that they did not. I would deem that racist. That is an offence against the law of the country, so regardless of the position he holds he has committed a crime which is therefore punishable.
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/discrimination/h...
"This means that if you believe something is a hate incident, it should be recorded as such by the person you are reporting it to."
Hugo a Gogo said:
singlecoil said:
AndStilliRise said:
Wow, nearly as bad as the copper in question.
The fact is that he said my country which means he was trying to indicate that he belonged here (not sure how) and that they did not. I would deem that racist. That is an offence against the law of the country, so regardless of the position he holds he has committed a crime which is therefore punishable.
What you deem as racist doesn't in itself make it an offence. I don't deem it as racist.The fact is that he said my country which means he was trying to indicate that he belonged here (not sure how) and that they did not. I would deem that racist. That is an offence against the law of the country, so regardless of the position he holds he has committed a crime which is therefore punishable.
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/discrimination/h...
"This means that if you believe something is a hate incident, it should be recorded as such by the person you are reporting it to."
TooMany2cvs said:
Doesn't sound like it's at all clear-cut as to who started the argy-bargy, does it?
BTW, you're right - there is no justification for trouble on EITHER side. But bear in mind the protesters are there because they are angry at what they perceive to be serious injustice.
Well that's exactly it, isn't it? They complaining because there isn't anyone to 'police' things properly in their own country (am I allowed to say that - I saw the words 'Turkey' and 'Kurds'. Am I racist to assume they are not of 'my own country'?) so they come to another country and seemingly do what they can to recreate the conditions of back home - in other words fBTW, you're right - there is no justification for trouble on EITHER side. But bear in mind the protesters are there because they are angry at what they perceive to be serious injustice.
k the police off.I've never understood that thinking.
TooMany2cvs said:
Given that his job is to prevent the demo from descending into anarchy and chaos... Yes, it is. He's a professional. He should be able to ignore it. That's what he's trained to do, and what he's being paid for.
Nobody is paid to be abused. It's interesting that you seem to wish to defend political correctness, and then say something like that.Abuse is as politically incorrect as it gets. Those people are abusing that policeman. Maybe he did something they weren't happy with but that is no explanation other than they are abusers and like to abuse.
Greendubber said:
Rovinghawk said:
Greendubber said:
I was called 'white c&nt' and the CPS didnt seem to think it was racist.
Maybe it's like defamation, where if it's true then it's a legitimate defence.
He should have known better than to get involved. Whoever he said this to has perceived it as a racist incident and it'll be recorded and looked into accordingly.
Police CANNOT get embroiled in this type of conflict - they all know that now, or should do - regardless of any provocation.
Police CANNOT get embroiled in this type of conflict - they all know that now, or should do - regardless of any provocation.
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