A Bridge Too Far?

[Greendubber]

Rovinghawk said:

XCP said:

a racist and thoroughly rude remark to another poster

Not racist at all, just taking the mick so as to get a reaction. He reacted.

Tragic, true colours showing through here.

Edited to add: another bit of selective quoting there, he wasnt calling you racist but you're usual selective quoting hides that doesnt it?

Edited by Greendubber on Tuesday 27th September 19:48

[TooMany2cvs]

Raygun said:

Not commenting on the actual issue but RT is a st stirring broadcasting company run by the Russian state!

It is widely reported elsewhere, though.

XCP said:

Strangely, the Mail, whilst not known for being very pro-police, has a significantly different slant on the incident.
If I had more IT skills than my dog I could provide a link, but sadly that is beyond me.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3806967/Police-Officer-investigated-telling-pro-Kurd-protester-don-t-tell-country-clashes.html

The Wail would have been wetting themselves with glee. Political correctness, the Police AND brown people all in one story? Made for them...

Facts... It's alleged he said something that many people - including the complainant - perceived in an offensive way. That allegation is being investigated by people whose job it is to investigate complaints. While it's being investigated, he's placed on restricted duties. That's it. End of.

[anonymous-user]

TooMany2cvs said:

Raygun said:

Not commenting on the actual issue but RT is a st stirring broadcasting company run by the Russian state!

It is widely reported elsewhere, though.

XCP said:

Strangely, the Mail, whilst not known for being very pro-police, has a significantly different slant on the incident.
If I had more IT skills than my dog I could provide a link, but sadly that is beyond me.

I know I did see it which must of been in the DM.
I wouldn't say they are anti-police either, more pro-common sense when it comes to the police in the DM.

[singlecoil]

TooMany2cvs said:

singlecoil said:

TooMany2cvs said:

heebeegeetee said:

Are the perpetually offended saying none of those things should be said?

Let's just remind ourselves...

The policeman's comment implied that he had more right to have his opinion respected because this is "his country" - ie, his skin is lighter than theirs, and he's from Anglo-Saxon origins while they aren't.

It did nothing of the sort.

IYHO...

Indeed, although my opinion is not particularly humble because it coincides with fact.

As long as you keep repeating rubbish such as the above, I will keep correcting you.

[roofer]

Rovinghawk said:

XCP said:

a racist and thoroughly rude remark to another poster

Not racist at all, just taking the mick so as to get a reaction. He reacted.

Well done you Here, have a biscuit.

[Terzo123]

Ha ha ha.

I do dislike rovingtroll

[Rovinghawk]

Greendubber said:

you're usual selective quoting

FYI:

Your = belonging to you.

You're = abbreviation for "you are".

[Greendubber]

Rovinghawk said:

Greendubber said:

you're usual selective quoting

FYI:

Your = belonging to you.

You're = abbreviation for "you are".

Now resorting to grammar patrol whilst ignoring everything else......


Bless.

[Johnnytheboy]

This thread really is PH at its worst.

You all deserve each other, you really do.

[XCP]

Johnnytheboy said:

This thread really is PH at its worst.

You all deserve each other, you really do.

No no no. The Plebgate saga was much worse. And the windscreen thread is heading the same way.

[jogger1976]

By PH standards,I'm a PC liberal lefty and I absolutely abhor all types of racism and bigotry, but fk me! The sanctimonious whining tt in the blue shirt needs a fking slap "I heard that! You're racist"!

Oh do fk off you knob!

[Red Devil]

superlightr said:

We are too tolerant I think, its swung too far. It is his country, its mine as well. Go protest somewhere else.

Be specific then, otherwise you are part of the problem rather than solving it.

The irony here is that in the UK the demonstrators were allowed their peaceful (i.e. non-violent) protest.
In their ethnic homeland east of the Dardanelles/Bosphorus they might have no such luxury.
Had they tried they might well have been tear-gassed and imprisoned, even killed.

[heebeegeetee]

singlecoil said:

TooMany2cvs said:

heebeegeetee said:

Are the perpetually offended saying none of those things should be said?

Let's just remind ourselves...

The policeman's comment implied that he had more right to have his opinion respected because this is "his country" - ie, his skin is lighter than theirs, and he's from Anglo-Saxon origins while they aren't.

It did nothing of the sort.

I can see it would if you were prejudiced, but I don't think I am so I didn't see it like that either.

[Hugo a Gogo]

heebeegeetee said:

singlecoil said:

TooMany2cvs said:

heebeegeetee said:

Are the perpetually offended saying none of those things should be said?

Let's just remind ourselves...

The policeman's comment implied that he had more right to have his opinion respected because this is "his country" - ie, his skin is lighter than theirs, and he's from Anglo-Saxon origins while they aren't.

It did nothing of the sort.

I can see it would if you were prejudiced, but I don't think I am so I didn't see it like that either.

it implied it wasn't 'their' country

why might he think they were not UK nationals?

or to quote Mr B Manning "they think they're English just cos they were born here!"

[superlightr]

Red Devil said:

superlightr said:

We are too tolerant I think, its swung too far. It is his country, its mine as well. Go protest somewhere else.

Be specific then, otherwise you are part of the problem rather than solving it.

The irony here is that in the UK the demonstrators were allowed their peaceful (i.e. non-violent) protest.
In their ethnic homeland east of the Dardanelles/Bosphorus they might have no such luxury.
Had they tried they might well have been tear-gassed and imprisoned, even killed.

Then protest peacefully and don't abuse the police and stop the traffic. Act respectfully. They were very aggressive in their body language and pointy shouty.

[singlecoil]

Hugo a Gogo said:

heebeegeetee said:

singlecoil said:

TooMany2cvs said:

heebeegeetee said:

Are the perpetually offended saying none of those things should be said?

Let's just remind ourselves...

The policeman's comment implied that he had more right to have his opinion respected because this is "his country" - ie, his skin is lighter than theirs, and he's from Anglo-Saxon origins while they aren't.

It did nothing of the sort.

I can see it would if you were prejudiced, but I don't think I am so I didn't see it like that either.

it implied it wasn't 'their' country

Saying England is your country means just that, it doesn't mean that it isn't anyone else's. I might just as easily say that your post implied whatever it suited my agenda that it implied.

[Hugo a Gogo]

you're right, words mean nothing, it's all our own interpretation

Solipsism is the way forward

[heebeegeetee]

Hugo a Gogo said:

it implied it wasn't 'their' country

why might he think they were not UK nationals?

Because he's spoken to them?

That's my assumption.

We should move on from the days of "A racist! We've found a racist, may we burn him?!" imo.

[Hugo a Gogo]

yes, I suppose he may have questioned them all first about their residence status

still a stupid, crass comment to make

that's just, like, my opinion man

[heebeegeetee]

Hugo a Gogo said:

yes, I suppose he may have questioned them all first about their residence status

Or maybe the reason some of those people know how bad things are for Kurds in Turkey is that they are from there and said so.