Spot the career criminal - video and rant.

[singlecoil]

Perhaps Digby will add something to this thread, along the lines of the policeman being a paid lackey of the real career criminals, the people who provide the blank chequebooks speed cameras.

[TTommy]

Issi said:

I think that the OP should change the title to -Spot the twonk who doesn't know how to use his brake pedal.

To be fair - for the first case in 6 years I've actually been caught it's hardly a big deal. I've jumped on the brakes in different areas many times.

Guessing you stuck to 30 in all areas at all times constantly, then?

I assume you spotted him in the video first time from way back too? Ah yes, of course you did....

[fwaggie]

From 45 seconds onwards I count 11 blind hazards where you have extremely little chance of seeing something coming out and not stopping (i.e. kid on pushbike).

Perhaps your BMW has hazard perception radar that can look through the hedges and embankments? Or brakes that defy the laws of physics? Or a pedestrian airbag that ensures they are not injured when hit at 40mph?


I know why you think it's perfectly safe doing that speed down there. You've done it hundreds of times before and have never seen any kid or dog or myopic driver suddenly appearing from any driveway / path, so therefore that can never happen in the future, right?

Just like you've driven 200k miles and never been done for speeding, being a careful driver and all, so being done for speeding can never happen in the future.


Wrong.


If there is 'x' chance of something happening, it doesn't matter how many times it *hasn't* happened in the past, 'x' is still the same, what happened in the past doesn't matter.

[walm]

TTommy said:

Guessing you stuck to 30 in all areas at all times constantly, then?

No way.
But when nicked, most suck it up, rather than whinge.

[WJNB]

Vaud said:

And you can always learn more to be a better driver - 200k miles means nothing
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

EXPERIENCE DOES NOT ENSURE ABILITY an uncomfortable truism applicable in the business & recreation world.
With motoring the more miles you drive there is a danger of equating experience with ability. Assuming you know it all diminishes preparedness to acknowledge dangers & the harsh reality that you don't know it all hurts, especially for the proud posturing male of the species.

[Short Grain]

TTommy said:

Carry on reading sweetheart - to highlight the system's injustice.


Even the policeman that got me knows dam well everyone will just drive off at speed and re-offend.

Hi TTommy,
Don't worry about it but 'technically' there was no 'Injustice' You stretched the rules a bit and got caught, a moments lapse and 3 points or a course. Not a criticism, more of a been there, done that, but I'm usually a bit more 'diplomatic' than some others readers! (lost it prior to my recent thread and got Sinned Binned, thread deleted and quite rightly, lesson learned)
I got done for 107 clicks on the M62 over 5 years ago so 'slightly' more of a problem than yours. Audi A6, very smooth drive, my fault for thinking about a customer and not concentrating, purely autopilot!
Driving to Leeds one Monday morning, 7am, lovely summers day,traffic very light, just before the Ouse Bridge. Clocked the BiB on the last overhead bridge prior to bridge, quick look at speedo and that 'Oh Crap' moment, and he was already moving, so became an 'Oh Sh*t' moment!
BiB followed me for at least 2 miles, I'm sure he saw me saying' FFS, Just Pull Me!! (behave people, this is not Frankie Howard) Anyway, sat me in the Police car, "You realise why we stopped you don't you Sir?" Duh!! Then proceeded to tell me I would be reported and due to speed, receive something in the post. But, says BiB, there was actually nothing wrong with you driving apart from you were going too fast, and I will put that in my report! He didn't put it in of course,(I said stop it people).
"Mr Short Grain was overtaking all the vehicles on the inside lane!" FFS, If I had been doing 70, I'd have been overtaking ALL the vehicle on the inside lane!! Result was 6 points, £200 Fine plus victim surcharge so very lucky considering.
My point is, after the ramble,(result of a few rather nice glasses of Scotch in celebration of the result explained in my thread), we have ALL done it, but some like to crow and come the holier than thou etc. Do the course if that's on the table, don't backchat, watch the d*ckheads try and justify themselves, and you will be so much more wary from now!
I still have a great respect for most BiB, They do a job I couldn't do, with no respect from the politicians who DO take the p*ss, and the Budget!

Sorry, That turned into War & Peace didn't it!?!

Cheers,

Edited by Short Grain on Thursday 29th September 20:22

[768]

Short Grain said:

Don't worry about it but 'technically' there was no 'Injustice' You stretched the rules a bit and got caught...

No injustice if that always happens.

[Vaud]

WJNB said:

Vaud said:

And you can always learn more to be a better driver - 200k miles means nothing
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

EXPERIENCE DOES NOT ENSURE ABILITY an uncomfortable truism applicable in the business & recreation world.
With motoring the more miles you drive there is a danger of equating experience with ability. Assuming you know it all diminishes preparedness to acknowledge dangers & the harsh reality that you don't know it all hurts, especially for the proud posturing male of the species.

You put the point well. There is actually a risk that your experience also means you pick up bad habits that go uncorrected,

[Devil2575]

768 said:

singlecoil said:

Of course it's the idea, and it is effective. Most people avoid speeding most of the time not because they don't want to speed, but because they don't want to be caught. There will always be some who take a chance and that's why they get increasing levels of discouragement. The idea is not to put them off the road unless they show themselves of being incapable of self control.

You really do drink the kool aid. What's your vested interest?

Straight from the conspiracy theorists phrasebook

[singlecoil]

Devil2575 said:

768 said:

singlecoil said:

Of course it's the idea, and it is effective. Most people avoid speeding most of the time not because they don't want to speed, but because they don't want to be caught. There will always be some who take a chance and that's why they get increasing levels of discouragement. The idea is not to put them off the road unless they show themselves of being incapable of self control.

You really do drink the kool aid. What's your vested interest?

Straight from the conspiracy theorists phrasebook

And I was only explaining how the system works, not saying I approved of it.

[Devil2575]

singlecoil said:

Devil2575 said:

768 said:

singlecoil said:

Of course it's the idea, and it is effective. Most people avoid speeding most of the time not because they don't want to speed, but because they don't want to be caught. There will always be some who take a chance and that's why they get increasing levels of discouragement. The idea is not to put them off the road unless they show themselves of being incapable of self control.

You really do drink the kool aid. What's your vested interest?

Straight from the conspiracy theorists phrasebook

And I was only explaining how the system works, not saying I approved of it.

I was talking about his reply not your post.

[singlecoil]

Devil2575 said:

singlecoil said:

Devil2575 said:

768 said:

singlecoil said:

Of course it's the idea, and it is effective. Most people avoid speeding most of the time not because they don't want to speed, but because they don't want to be caught. There will always be some who take a chance and that's why they get increasing levels of discouragement. The idea is not to put them off the road unless they show themselves of being incapable of self control.

You really do drink the kool aid. What's your vested interest?

Straight from the conspiracy theorists phrasebook

And I was only explaining how the system works, not saying I approved of it.

I was talking about his reply not your post.

So was I.

[Devil2575]

singlecoil said:

Devil2575 said:

singlecoil said:

Devil2575 said:

768 said:

singlecoil said:

Of course it's the idea, and it is effective. Most people avoid speeding most of the time not because they don't want to speed, but because they don't want to be caught. There will always be some who take a chance and that's why they get increasing levels of discouragement. The idea is not to put them off the road unless they show themselves of being incapable of self control.

You really do drink the kool aid. What's your vested interest?

Straight from the conspiracy theorists phrasebook

And I was only explaining how the system works, not saying I approved of it.

I was talking about his reply not your post.

So was I.

Ok. I have been drinking

[BigLion]

OP was probably doing the same speed I would down such a road at that time.

That music was awful,though...

[Red Devil]

Pixel Pusher said:

TTommy said:

So this happened on my way home earlier!

Watch: https://vimeo.com/184745988

Is that Hazlemere?

Road name plate on the right at 0:05
See - https://goo.gl/maps/eJFQ2s67XCn

[TTommy]

BigLion said:

OP was probably doing the same speed I would down such a road at that time.

That music was awful,though...

In my defence, was on spotify discover playlist linked up to bluetooth. Lost signal and it came outta nowhere.

But yes, generally my music taste is a tad different.. haha.

[TTommy]

funkyrobot said:

When you next drive down the hill, take a look in the mirror. You will then see the hazard.

That could well be the gayest thing I've ever seen written on the interweb. I wouldn't dare look in the mirror, not with all those kittens awaiting to be killed from my few extra MPH.

[Corpulent Tosser]

BigLion said:

OP was probably doing the same speed I would down such a road at that time.

I too may have been going a similar speed, though I tend to be more careful in 30/40 limits, what I and most others wouldn't have done though is bleat about the injustice of it.

[768]

singlecoil said:

Devil2575 said:

768 said:

singlecoil said:

Of course it's the idea, and it is effective. Most people avoid speeding most of the time not because they don't want to speed, but because they don't want to be caught. There will always be some who take a chance and that's why they get increasing levels of discouragement. The idea is not to put them off the road unless they show themselves of being incapable of self control.

You really do drink the kool aid. What's your vested interest?

Straight from the conspiracy theorists phrasebook

And I was only explaining how the system works, not saying I approved of it.

I really don't want to be posting in SP&L again, but...

No you weren't just explaining how the system works. You can't use words like want, effective and idea without conceding that you completely coloured it with your own views. Views which at least from my perspective seem entirely incongruent with the views of most others.

Individuals holding vested interests behind their opinions is not conspiracy. It's explicitly not conspiracy.

[PoleDriver]

OP, have you removed the video?