Spot the career criminal - video and rant.

[anonymous-user]

TTommy said:

Unfortunately this is a classic case of Police out to hit targets.

Indeed, a 'classic case' - based on all your experience and knowledge of police performance structures.

Is it annoying? Yes.

Is it more likely a response to local complaints? Yes.

[deltashad]

Annoying for sure. Your speed went up going down that hill.
I suspect a large percentage of cars speed up at this point, that's why the copper was there with his gun in reasonable stealth mode.

The other way you could look at it, the junction may be a well known accident spot as people come down the hill quickly when other cars are trying to get out on to the main road. Maybe the odd granny has complained even worse been knocked over and damaged her in the process and written off her zimmer frame.

There are a lot of jobs worth on here who rarely get out but in this case you just gotta take one for the team. He got yah.

Why did non of the oncoming cars not flash you? I don't live in the uk anymore, but here everybody flashes you when the rozzers are doing their collections. Yes it is illegal to warn drivers here too but we all do it, just as we all, well 90 percent of us speed in certain areas.

Edited by deltashad on Thursday 29th September 07:43

[Riley Blue]

[quote=TTommy]
Unfortunately this is a classic case of Police out to hit targets. Not a single piece of road safety about it. I consider myself a very good driver and always on the look out and driving to the roads conditions.
[/qte]

'....very good driver'... but not good enough to drive within the speed limit in a built up area.

'....very good driver'... but not good enough to identify muliple hazards on that stretch of road.

'....very good driver'... but not good enough to react to a warning headlamp flash.

'....very good driver'... but not good enough to reduce speed where road markings advise you to 'SLOW'

Sorry OP, but it's yourself you should be angry with.

[TTommy]

Riley Blue]Tommy said:

Unfortunately this is a classic case of Police out to hit targets. Not a single piece of road safety about it. I consider myself a very good driver and always on the look out and driving to the roads conditions.
[/qte]

'....very good driver'... but not good enough to drive within the speed limit in a built up area.

'....very good driver'... but not good enough to identify muliple hazards on that stretch of road.

'....very good driver'... but not good enough to react to a warning headlamp flash.

'....very good driver'... but not good enough to reduce speed where road markings advise you to 'SLOW'

Sorry OP, but it's yourself you should be angry with.

Was driving over the speed limit unsafe? Whom did I put at risk?

That's wasn't a headlight flash. It's the bumps in the road. If you see, as I drive over that area it's proper bumpy! If it was a flash id have noticed immediately. Camera just makes it look like that.

Most road marking's that warn 'SLOW' are conplete horsepoop anyway, so yeah - igored and drove to road conditions instead like the previous 90,000. Just this one time too many I guess. Naughty me!

I know it's my 'fault' mate. What I'm getting at is that it's a pathetic technique and box ticking exercise.

[gus607]

9 mph over the limit, you're speedo would show 46-48 mph, yes.
You have absolutely nothing to moan about or blame anyone else except yourself.

[768]

singlecoil said:

TTommy said:

Unfortunately this is a classic case of Police out to hit targets. Not a single piece of road safety about it.

TTommy, the point of speed limit enforcement is not to discourage you from speeding in places where you realise that it would be unsafe for you to do so, or to make money, it's to discourage you from speeding everywhere.

The idea is that if you don't know where the speed traps are, then you will be less likely to speed at all.

Even if that's the idea (is it?) it's obviously completely ineffective, which is no great surprise if it takes a young driver 6 years before they're caught once.

[SpamDisco]

TTommy said:

Riley Blue]Tommy said:

Unfortunately this is a classic case of Police out to hit targets. Not a single piece of road safety about it. I consider myself a very good driver and always on the look out and driving to the roads conditions.
[/qte]

'....very good driver'... but not good enough to drive within the speed limit in a built up area.

'....very good driver'... but not good enough to identify muliple hazards on that stretch of road.

'....very good driver'... but not good enough to react to a warning headlamp flash.

'....very good driver'... but not good enough to reduce speed where road markings advise you to 'SLOW'

Sorry OP, but it's yourself you should be angry with.

Was driving over the speed limit unsafe? Whom did I put at risk?

That's wasn't a headlight flash. It's the bumps in the road. If you see, as I drive over that area it's proper bumpy! If it was a flash id have noticed immediately. Camera just makes it look like that.

At 00:15s, the Land Rover's lights are definitely flashing.

[55palfers]

I counted one pedestrian on that clip.

[Vaud]

55palfers said:

I counted one pedestrian on that clip.

I saw lots of hazards/risks that make it a 30:

Multiple junctions
Multiple houses with driveways and potentially poor visibility
A school
A zebra crossing
Ped crossings with safe islands in the middle of the road
Parked cars partly on the road

Not sure how many reasons you need to be a 30, and some 30's are clearly a bit too cautious, but this isn't one of them.

[singlecoil]

768 said:

singlecoil said:

TTommy said:

Unfortunately this is a classic case of Police out to hit targets. Not a single piece of road safety about it.

TTommy, the point of speed limit enforcement is not to discourage you from speeding in places where you realise that it would be unsafe for you to do so, or to make money, it's to discourage you from speeding everywhere.

The idea is that if you don't know where the speed traps are, then you will be less likely to speed at all.

Even if that's the idea (is it?) it's obviously completely ineffective, which is no great surprise if it takes a young driver 6 years before they're caught once.

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Of course it's the idea, and it is effective. Most people avoid speeding most of the time not because they don't want to speed, but because they don't want to be caught. There will always be some who take a chance and that's why they get increasing levels of discouragement. The idea is not to put them off the road unless they show themselves of being incapable of self control.

[55palfers]

Vaud said:

55palfers said:

I counted one pedestrian on that clip.

I saw lots of hazards/risks that make it a 30:

Multiple junctions
Multiple houses with driveways and potentially poor visibility
A school
A zebra crossing
Ped crossings with safe islands in the middle of the road
Parked cars partly on the road

Not sure how many reasons you need to be a 30, and some 30's are clearly a bit too cautious, but this isn't one of them.

Yes, funnily enough I spotted all of those too.

I was merely observing how few peds were about.

[768]

singlecoil said:

Of course it's the idea, and it is effective. Most people avoid speeding most of the time not because they don't want to speed, but because they don't want to be caught. There will always be some who take a chance and that's why they get increasing levels of discouragement. The idea is not to put them off the road unless they show themselves of being incapable of self control.

You really do drink the kool aid. What's your vested interest?

[LocoCoco]

gus607 said:

9 mph over the limit, you're speedo would show 46-48 mph, yes.
You have absolutely nothing to moan about or blame anyone else except yourself.

If your speedo is out by that much it's not fit for purpose.

[singlecoil]

768 said:

singlecoil said:

Of course it's the idea, and it is effective. Most people avoid speeding most of the time not because they don't want to speed, but because they don't want to be caught. There will always be some who take a chance and that's why they get increasing levels of discouragement. The idea is not to put them off the road unless they show themselves of being incapable of self control.

You really do drink the kool aid. What's your vested interest?

My interest is in keeping my licence clean and not paying increased insurance premiums.

There are plenty of times when I would otherwise exceed the speed limit.

How about you? Do you speed much?

[TTommy]

SpamDisco said:

At 00:15s, the Land Rover's lights are definitely flashing.

My God I love Internet critics. I was there. It happens alot on that road due to the bumps. If you'd like, I can get some more clips when I come home that way.

[TTommy]

gus607 said:

9 mph over the limit, you're speedo would show 46-48 mph, yes.
You have absolutely nothing to moan about or blame anyone else except yourself.

I nearly spat my tea out. Thanks.

8 + 30 = 38. 8 over the limit. I HIGHLY doubt my speedo went over the 40 mark. But thanks for your highly intelligent response, I lol'd.

[CoolHands]

Doesn't look like you're doing 38. Probably 'slippage'.

[TTommy]

CoolHands said:

Doesn't look like you're doing 38. Probably 'slippage'.

I must admit I was suprised it was 38, how accurate are those things?

Surely someone on here is anal enough to analyse my footage and tell me?

[768]

singlecoil said:

My interest is in keeping my licence clean and not paying increased insurance premiums.

There are plenty of times when I would otherwise exceed the speed limit.

How about you? Do you speed much?

Most journeys, along with many others. The limit and enforcement thereof is of virtually no consequence at all. If you are unfortunate enough to get caught the chances are its of such a low signal you won't even see an effect on your insurance premium.

[singlecoil]

768 said:

singlecoil said:

My interest is in keeping my licence clean and not paying increased insurance premiums.

There are plenty of times when I would otherwise exceed the speed limit.

How about you? Do you speed much?

Most journeys, along with many others. The limit and enforcement thereof is of virtually no consequence at all. If you are unfortunate enough to get caught the chances are its of such a low signal you won't even see an effect on your insurance premium.

Generally speaking, what's the most over the limit you do?