Challenger Hellcat quicker than an Aventador SV

Challenger Hellcat quicker than an Aventador SV

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SRT Hellcat

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7,031 posts

217 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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I did a speed day at RAF Woodbridge last Sunday.
1.3 miles of runway to the speed beacon.
Challenging to launch the Cat on a concrete runway.
In truth the first time I have seriously tried to launch the Cat.
Tried launching in both first and second but made no difference.
No burnouts permitted.
Everything in front was running big HP.
The GTR's were 850hp.
The M3 was supercharged with over 600bhp.
Fastest stock car out there.
Here are the final numbers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy5XzHBg_E8

Haydar Akpinar ES Motors 911 225
Adrian Downing Porsche 997 Turbo ES650 205
Tom Scarlett ES Motors 911 205
Amir Mohyuddin ES Motors 911 205
Ahmet Ali 38B 205
Orhun Hassan Nissan GTR 199
Ozan Hacimusa Porsche 997 Turbo 9e28 199
Nick Nicoloau Porsche 997 Turbo 196
Orcun Hassan Nissan GTR 195
Suleman Ahmed Nissan GTR 193
Gregg Wheeler ES Motors 911 193
Ben Beslic 997 Turbo 192
Dan Di Stef BMW M3 E92 191
Amir Mohyuddin Porsche GT2 190
SRT Hellcat Dodge Challenger Hellcat 189
Nick Nicoloau R34 Skyline GTR 188
Amir Mohyuddin Lamborghini Aventador SV 188 1st NA car
Paul Galpin & Rachel Galpin Gallardo Superleggera 187
Vincent Cheung Audi RS6 Avant 186 1st Estate
VJ Poolo Lamborghini Aventador SV 186
Michael Thomas BMW M5 F10 185
Scott Black C63 AMG 185
Michael Palmer Randle Audi S4 185
Denny Geary BMW E60 M5 184
Adam Newman BMW M6 183
Barry Wood Jaguar XKR-S 183
Andy Melton 183
Luke How Audi S4 181
Dave Clark Porsche 911 (991) 178
Adam Claydon Audi TT RS 176
Spencer Butt Audi S4 174
Max Gidney Merc 300D 174 1st Diesel
Chris Osbourne Audi RS6 173
James Martin Lotus Evora 172
Christopher Box BMW M135i 170
Luke Burrows Evo 8 168
James Wotton Audi RS4 168
John McNamee Audi RS3 168
Fahmeeda Hassan GL63 167 1st SUV
Alan Tyler 17 BMW 335i 165
Russell Dawson Jaguar F Type S 164
Jack Gilbert Audi RS4 164
Daniel Murray Vauxhall Astra LS 164
Alvonne Locker BMW M6 162
Anthony Reynolds BMW E90 M3 161
Adam Snow BMW M3 E92 161
Osman Hodja E36 M3 161
Andy Butters VW Golf R Estate 160
Jonathon Lowe VW Golf R Hatch 159
Barry Oldfield BMW M3 157
Husayin Arnavut C63 155
Will Finch Ferrari F430 154
Sierra RS Cosworth 154
Ben McCann Focus ST 154
Richard Bove Subaru Impreza 152
Elliott Norris BMW 2002 149
George Wong Audi A8 146
Matthew Hill Audi RS3 146
Joanne Pennington Legh Audi RS6 V10 143
Andrew Jay Range Rover Supercharged 143
Bryn Hayler Honda Civic EP3 142
Daniel Byers BMW M4 140
Simon Rose Mercedes 1.8 auto 120
Simon Souster Lexus Sportcross Turbo 118
Roger Hall BMW M6 107

KevinCamaroSS

11,635 posts

280 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Excellent speed, it is always how the power gets put down, if I recall a Hellcat is around 720 bhp? I assume you mean you were the fastest stock car? The M3 wasn't stock.

SRT Hellcat

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7,031 posts

217 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Yes the fastest stock car out there.
Dodge's figures are 707hp and 650 ft lb of torque.
The M3 was supercharged. Very impressive bit of kit

Edited by SRT Hellcat on Thursday 29th September 21:53

acr_nick

960 posts

138 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Impressive as the hellcat is I find it hard to believe the SV was giving it everything if it was slower, 4wd, lighter, more aerodynamic. I would love to believe that the dodge was faster being a mopar guy, must have been the SV owner being a bit shy on the right foot.

SRT Hellcat

Original Poster:

7,031 posts

217 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Two different SV's, two different drivers. Four wheel drive nail it and go. Brake after the speed beacon. Can't be had. Managing the car of the line in the Hellcat took some doing

KevinCamaroSS

11,635 posts

280 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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I suspect the torque will have a lot to do with it. Hellcat 650, Lambo only just over 500. Remember the Top Gear drag race between Diablo and Aston V8 twin supercharged? Aston nailed it every time despite the theoretical advantage of the Diablo. Torque wins every time. Supercharged gives lots of torque all the time compared with N/A.

acr_nick

960 posts

138 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Challenger hellcat figures

1/4 mile - 11.7 average
0-60 - 3.6 seconds
0-150mph - 17 seconds

Aventador SV figures

1/4 mile - 10.5 average
0-60 mph - 2.6 seconds
0-150 mph - 13.1 seconds

Even with that huge amount of torque the hellcat is 367 kg heavier and not very aerodynamic, look at the difference in 0-150 mph the aventador would be well ahead

SRT Hellcat

Original Poster:

7,031 posts

217 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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On paper I agree. But the speed beacon at the end of the runway does not lie and that is all that matters. Sometimes it just boils down to the nut behind the wheel

minime68

399 posts

135 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Driver error. These two cars are not close in performance and its obvious the lambo wasn't full tilt. Good run for you either way.

Du1point8

21,608 posts

192 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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SRT Hellcat said:
On paper I agree. But the speed beacon at the end of the runway does not lie and that is all that matters. Sometimes it just boils down to the nut behind the wheel
So therefore if I had a fiesta, I could then say when I over take a Hellcat on the motorway that my car is quicker, after all it just boils down to the nut behind the wheel.

Hellcat on paper is massively quicker, but it's the fact I overtook and thats all that matters.

SRT Hellcat

Original Poster:

7,031 posts

217 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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Du1point8 said:
So therefore if I had a fiesta, I could then say when I over take a Hellcat on the motorway that my car is quicker, after all it just boils down to the nut behind the wheel.
Hellcat on paper is massively quicker, but it's the fact I overtook and thats all that matters.
I guess you struggled to comprehend my post.
2 miles of runway.
Speed beacon set 1.3 miles along the runway.
Two cars run at a time.
The idea is to see how fast you can get your car to go and your speed is recorded for you by a speed beacon.
You have to manage the traction in the Hellcat as it is only rear wheel drive.
Same as the M3, M5, M6, C63 and all rwd cars.
Gallardo, Aventadors, Porsche Turbo, GTR's etc are all 4 wheel drive so traction is not an issue.
Then the very nice organisers kindly list the top speeds achieved by all of the cars on the day.
Why would you attend such a day if you did not want to go fast.
You could argue that both the Aventador drivers bottled it and braked before the speed beacon.
I chatted with the Gallaro chap and he was trying as hard as anyone else out there I spoke to.




HD Adam

5,149 posts

184 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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But you can't be faster than an Italian supercar.

You have leaf springs, an interior made of recycled tic tac boxes and probably country & western on the 8 track.

Well done biggrin

SVTRick

3,633 posts

195 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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Sounds like a good time was had by all.
Interesting results as well.
Would like to run my truck at one of those meetings smile

shovelheadrob

1,564 posts

171 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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I'd like to see that Rick, although you might need some taller gearing for those sort of speeds, I don't know if I'd want to be taking a farm truck up to 200 mph!

HD Adam

5,149 posts

184 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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shovelheadrob said:
I'd like to see that Rick, although you might need some taller gearing for those sort of speeds, I don't know if I'd want to be taking a farm truck up to 200 mph!
They do at the Texas Mile. Well almost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhvNJnmpR4M

SRT Hellcat

Original Poster:

7,031 posts

217 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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You will have a blast. Just be aware that the braking zone of 700 yards disappears very quickly at big speed. 225 in the big HP Porsche and being able to stop is really bloody impressive. He ran 205 in the half mile and I believe it is an 8 second car

acr_nick

960 posts

138 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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I would love to do another one of these days, I took my 13" gt500 with 800 bhp to vmax and speedo read 200 trap was 195. I was running out of runway on breaking and I'm sure the car would have kept going as I was only in 5th gear not even at the red line.

I would take the viper and unbolt my rear wing as I'm certain it could get the magic 200, hit 180 on autobahn in July with it being at 5000 rpm in 5th. Just too much downforce at that speed on the wing, wouldn't pull any more.

AndrewD

7,537 posts

284 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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So that was what was going on. I was driving through town in my old RS and saw lots of cars going the other way.