Bernard Hogan-Howe to retire as Met Police Commissioner

Bernard Hogan-Howe to retire as Met Police Commissioner

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CoolHands

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18,620 posts

195 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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After 5 years in the post. What do you think. Good, bad, or indifferent? Mayor Sadiq Khan will choose the successor along with the Home Secretary

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3813224/Si...

Greendubber

13,191 posts

203 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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I shudder to think who Khan will want.

XCP

16,912 posts

228 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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I bet a woman or an ethnic minority.

jogger1976

1,251 posts

126 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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XCP said:
I bet a woman or an ethnic minority.
Oh the horror! rolleyes FFS, it's like waking up in the 1950 being on here sometimes.

XCP

16,912 posts

228 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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jogger1976 said:
Oh the horror! rolleyes FFS, it's like waking up in the 1950 being on here sometimes.
Only if you interpret it that way. Did I say that would be a bad thing?

singlecoil

33,579 posts

246 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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XCP said:
jogger1976 said:
Oh the horror! rolleyes FFS, it's like waking up in the 1950 being on here sometimes.
Only if you interpret it that way. Did I say that would be a bad thing?
Yes, he certainly jumped into that one with both feet.

spookly

4,019 posts

95 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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singlecoil said:
XCP said:
jogger1976 said:
Oh the horror! rolleyes FFS, it's like waking up in the 1950 being on here sometimes.
Only if you interpret it that way. Did I say that would be a bad thing?
Yes, he certainly jumped into that one with both feet.
Maybe he meant that such a person would be selected because of being a woman/minority, rather than being the best candidate?

I wouldn't care who it is, as long as they are the best candidate for the job.

Mandat

3,885 posts

238 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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I nominate PC Savage as candidate. tongue out

jogger1976

1,251 posts

126 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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singlecoil said:
XCP said:
jogger1976 said:
Oh the horror! rolleyes FFS, it's like waking up in the 1950 being on here sometimes.
Only if you interpret it that way. Did I say that would be a bad thing?
Yes, he certainly jumped into that one with both feet.
Hardly surprising given previous threads is it?

Dave Hedgehog

14,549 posts

204 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Greendubber said:
I shudder to think who Khan will want.
Abu Hamza al-Masri is front runner as he will support the mayors ban of women in bikinis in adverts

craigjm

17,949 posts

200 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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It is a shame that the met commissioner role gets so tied up with political tape and, although the most senior police role, is actually in some ways more subservient to politics than the chief constables of counties. Khan disagrees with the visible armed police presence and the use of spit hoods etc. Hogan-Howe has been one of the more effective commissioners and was a loss to Merseyside when he moved up to the top job. Problem with this job is that you are damned if you do and damned if you don't which the likes of Ian Blair found out to their cost. I for one, do not think its right that it is a political appointment on fixed terms.

Who next? My money would be on Steve Finnigan if an outsider. If its an internal promotion then maybe Craig Mackey or Patricia Gallen

singlecoil

33,579 posts

246 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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jogger1976 said:
singlecoil said:
XCP said:
jogger1976 said:
Oh the horror! rolleyes FFS, it's like waking up in the 1950 being on here sometimes.
Only if you interpret it that way. Did I say that would be a bad thing?
Yes, he certainly jumped into that one with both feet.
Hardly surprising given previous threads is it?
I'm not familiar with what you've said on previous threads but if you tell me you have that tendency then I will take your word for it.

Red 4

10,744 posts

187 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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craigjm said:


Who next? My money would be on Steve Finnigan if an outsider. If its an internal promotion then maybe Craig Mackey or Patricia Gallen
I doubt it will be Steve Finnigan.

He was quite outspoken about the cuts affecting his force, stating that Lancashire Police will be "unviable as a police service by 2020" if the government carried on with their proposals.

One thing is for certain. It will be somebody who doesn't rock the boat, is prepared to bow down to their political masters, is really only in it for the power and themselves and someone who doesn't really give a toss about the officers on the ground.

ps - I don't know why you say Hogan- Howe was a loss to Merseyside ?

He did like riding his horse around Mather Avenue (force training centre) though. Allegedly.



Edited by Red 4 on Friday 30th September 16:52

craigjm

17,949 posts

200 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Red 4 said:
ps - I don't know why you say Hogan- Howe was a loss to Merseyside ?

He did like riding his horse around Mather Avenue (force training centre) though. Allegedly.
Haha yes. I was called in to help him modernise the force and it was very different when he departed to what it was like when he joined. Bernard is an old fashioned copper at heart and that, in some ways, is his downfall in London. The post of commissioner is too political and it shouldn't be. You may be right about the Lancs CC

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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He seems to be doing a lot of media work recently. Haven't studied his actual record while in office however he always comes across well when being interviewed.


CoolHands

Original Poster:

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195 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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Yeah I noticed him on itv earlier. I have to say most of his answers were rather politician-like e.g. Saying that when he had come to office stop & search figures were too high. So he reduced them. But knife crime went down. So they were targetting the right people. It was gangs, but now it's not. Knife crime was reducing when they were locking up the gangs, but now they're being released which is the reason (excuse!) knife crime is rising again. Etc.

Basically he was a bit teflon.

craigjm

17,949 posts

200 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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The final four shortlist has been announced

Cressida Dick
Mark Rowley
Stephen Kavanagh
Sara Thornton

Jon321

2,805 posts

188 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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All good candidates.

craigjm

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200 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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Dick is slightly tainted by Jean Charles but is probably the favourite with the Conservatives

Red Devil

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208 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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eek No doubt his family will be overjoyed if she is rewarded by being appointed to the most senior and high profile post in the country.