Fag ends - acceptable to drop?

Fag ends - acceptable to drop?

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nadger

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1,411 posts

140 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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Genuine question!
So today I had a rather heated exchange with a rotund female mouth-breather in the car park of Huntingdon B and Q (I know, glamour or what?!). She pulled up and dumped her still lit fag end out of the car window. She then hauled her fat arse out of the car and, seeing me looking at her, deigned to grind out the fag butt with her heel. She didn't take particularly kindly to me pointing out that there was a bin on her way in to the shop, with ashtray of n to p! Apparently it was 'just a ciggie' and I need to 'wind my neck in'.
So ph who's right? Me or the mb?! The over to you!

RCBRG

603 posts

141 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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you, 100%. no idea why fag ends seem to be acceptable to drop for some people, but its fking disgusting

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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I think smoking should be banned in all places, except your home and designated areas. the whole act is anti social from puffing away in door ways etc to chucking your butts on the floor.

HTP99

22,549 posts

140 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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It's always perplexed me that it has always been kind of acceptable to deposit ones dog ends on the floor; my dad was a Policeman, he hated littering but would always flick his finished ciggies out of the car window.

I think it is disgusting, however it isn't as common as it once was.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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You're right, it's filth.

Mabbs9

1,082 posts

218 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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I remember a focus on dropping litter about 10yrs ago. In terms of number of items of litter collected, cigarette butts and fag packets were the winners. Obviously nowhere near the greatest in volume terms but shows the problem.

I think it's grim. Just because you suffer from an addiction gives no right to leave the environment littered.

Esceptico

7,466 posts

109 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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Intolerant opinions being voiced. Cigarette butts not nice but are they worse than the mountain of coffee cups generated every day? Or is coffee and acceptable addiction? How about alcohol? They odd whiff of second hand smoke seems fairly harmless compared to the impact of drinking (fights, domestic violence, sexual assaults, RTCs, impact on NHS and productivity from drinking related accidents or ill health). Shouldn't we ban drinking too?

I don't smoke in case you think I'm defending the habit.

JonV8V

7,226 posts

124 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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Esceptico said:
Intolerant opinions being voiced. Cigarette butts not nice but are they worse than the mountain of coffee cups generated every day? Or is coffee and acceptable addiction? How about alcohol? They odd whiff of second hand smoke seems fairly harmless compared to the impact of drinking (fights, domestic violence, sexual assaults, RTCs, impact on NHS and productivity from drinking related accidents or ill health). Shouldn't we ban drinking too?

I don't smoke in case you think I'm defending the habit.
Why is it intolerant to think dropping litter is wrong? If we all justified an action because there are worse things going on in the world then not much gets ruled out. Coffee cups are just as wrong.

51mes

1,500 posts

200 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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It's crazy and it's not just in the UK....

Just back from two weeks in Sweden, very little if any litter anywhere - except fag ends.. Walked through the little square in Malmo old town on a sunday morning and they where everywhere, thousands of them. Similarly wandering around Kungshamn ( a small fishing village on the north west coast), small car park and again the only litter was fag ends...

The little foam filters are not going to be biodegradable either....

S.

Mabbs9

1,082 posts

218 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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Esceptico said:
Intolerant opinions being voiced. Cigarette butts not nice but are they worse than the mountain of coffee cups generated every day? Or is coffee and acceptable addiction? How about alcohol? They odd whiff of second hand smoke seems fairly harmless compared to the impact of drinking (fights, domestic violence, sexual assaults, RTCs, impact on NHS and productivity from drinking related accidents or ill health). Shouldn't we ban drinking too?

I don't smoke in case you think I'm defending the habit.
I'm intolerant of everyone who drops litter. There's no excuse for any of it.

Jasandjules

69,888 posts

229 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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No it is not. It is still litter and I hope people who do it are fined. Or flogged in the town square.

Riley Blue

20,955 posts

226 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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Esceptico said:
Intolerant opinions being voiced. Cigarette butts not nice but are they worse than the mountain of coffee cups generated every day? Or is coffee and acceptable addiction? How about alcohol? They odd whiff of second hand smoke seems fairly harmless compared to the impact of drinking (fights, domestic violence, sexual assaults, RTCs, impact on NHS and productivity from drinking related accidents or ill health). Shouldn't we ban drinking too?
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I don't smoke in case you think I'm defending the habit.
Intolerant? Not at all, just showing an awareness of the toxic effect of the human race's 21st century lifestyle.

PorkInsider

5,888 posts

141 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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Esceptico said:
Intolerant opinions being voiced. Cigarette butts not nice but are they worse than the mountain of coffee cups generated every day? Or is coffee and acceptable addiction? How about alcohol? They odd whiff of second hand smoke seems fairly harmless compared to the impact of drinking (fights, domestic violence, sexual assaults, RTCs, impact on NHS and productivity from drinking related accidents or ill health). Shouldn't we ban drinking too?

I don't smoke in case you think I'm defending the habit.
You really are quite bonkers, aren't you?

smile

WaferThinHam

1,680 posts

130 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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Cigarette butts are minging. Just put them in the bin.

voyds9

8,488 posts

283 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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Esceptico said:
Intolerant opinions being voiced. Cigarette butts not nice but are they worse than the mountain of coffee cups generated every day? Or is coffee and acceptable addiction? How about alcohol? They odd whiff of second hand smoke seems fairly harmless compared to the impact of drinking (fights, domestic violence, sexual assaults, RTCs, impact on NHS and productivity from drinking related accidents or ill health). Shouldn't we ban drinking too?

I don't smoke in case you think I'm defending the habit.
Ah there are worse things excuse.

When something is wrong it is wrong. It doesn't make it right because something else is worse.

SVTRick

3,633 posts

195 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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With a bit of luck the miserable bint will step in some dog poo and get it all over the car floor.
Don't get me started on fag end litter and dog 5hite

bad company

18,575 posts

266 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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I picked up and 'returned' several fag ends back through car windows.

drf765

187 posts

95 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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Fag ends come under the "Litter-what is and isn't Act 1938". Brought in just after the abdication on Edward VIII.

Section 21 of that act clearly states fag ends and other smoking detritus such as chewing gum, favoured by those blighted by tobacco and are coming to their senses, are not to be considered as litter. Sub section (2) further says that no British subject shall either notice, comment upon or be otherwise offended by such deposits in the U.K. Ant its dominions.

So there you go.

By the way, the act got royal ascent pretty quick, the royals are notorious chain-smokers. smile

popeyewhite

19,869 posts

120 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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voyds9 said:
Esceptico said:
Intolerant opinions being voiced. Cigarette butts not nice but are they worse than the mountain of coffee cups generated every day? Or is coffee and acceptable addiction? How about alcohol? They odd whiff of second hand smoke seems fairly harmless compared to the impact of drinking (fights, domestic violence, sexual assaults, RTCs, impact on NHS and productivity from drinking related accidents or ill health). Shouldn't we ban drinking too?

I don't smoke in case you think I'm defending the habit.
Ah there are worse things excuse.
Excuse? How is he excusing anything?

It's a fair point he's making that you and others won't entertain, that's all.

If I had my way I'd ban alcohol completely - cigarette butts come much further down the list.

I'd also ban takeaway coffee and plastic supermarket bags of any kind.




Edited by popeyewhite on Sunday 9th October 12:21

Evanivitch

20,075 posts

122 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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They just need to stick a bit more tax on them, another 10%/1Bn in returns should pay for an army of street cleaners.