Neighbours putting up garden building & renting it out

Neighbours putting up garden building & renting it out

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mikeveal

4,571 posts

250 months

Friday 14th October 2016
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Devil2575 said:
To be honest I think that would make you a bit of an arse. It's either a problem or it isn't. Do you bank things on everyone you know "Just in case"?
Why? If it aint a problem, do nothing. If it becomes a problem, have a quiet word and give the guy a chance to sort it.
Seems reasonable to me.

TroubledSoul

4,598 posts

194 months

Friday 14th October 2016
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The Surveyor said:
A breach of planning regulations by a neighbour isn't likely to impact on your ability to sell your own home. An on-going dispute with your neighbour would however certainly impact on any potential sale.

I would look at this in the context of your own quiet enjoyment. Does the use of the summer-house as a rental property impact on you directly any more than if the summer house was being used by your neighbour? If parking starts to become a problem, if there is excessive noise or nuisance, that's the time to discuss the problem with them, and then gauge your next move on their reaction.
I don't think that's what he meant....

Imagine a viewing and the person says "Sorry, the neighbours are doing what?! Renting the shed out to randomers? Hmm yeah, we'll let you know."

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

237 months

Friday 14th October 2016
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TroubledSoul said:
The Surveyor said:
A breach of planning regulations by a neighbour isn't likely to impact on your ability to sell your own home. An on-going dispute with your neighbour would however certainly impact on any potential sale.

I would look at this in the context of your own quiet enjoyment. Does the use of the summer-house as a rental property impact on you directly any more than if the summer house was being used by your neighbour? If parking starts to become a problem, if there is excessive noise or nuisance, that's the time to discuss the problem with them, and then gauge your next move on their reaction.
I don't think that's what he meant....

Imagine a viewing and the person says "Sorry, the neighbours are doing what?! Renting the shed out to randomers? Hmm yeah, we'll let you know."
It's funny isn't it, peoples perception is always that anything of any nature is harmful to their properties perceived value... its as much a British obsession at the weather!

7795

1,070 posts

181 months

Friday 14th October 2016
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stair said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
7795 said:
I'm aghast and happy ready this thread...

I'm aghast in the sense that this would worry anyone. If there is no noise, no disruption of any sort and it does not impact neighbours in any way (yet*), why would you bother or even want to report them? I find it near impossible to get my head around the thinking of why you feel you NEED to report this sort of thing. Have you spoken to other neighbours or even THE neighbour?

I'm happy to know that people like the OP exist; it would be boring if we were always the same!!

OP, why do you feel you need to report this at this time?

  • if it impacts your life in a bad way, I can fully understand you taking steps to discuss with your neighbour and then if it is not rectified to your satisfaction, taking it further.
Staggering!!!!!!!
What if it starts to become problem once they're beyond the time limit for planning being able to do anything about it?

What if he wants to sell and the buyer's solicitor picks up that there's a dwelling house int he neighbouring garden without p/p, and that's used to either bargain the price down or pull out completely?

There are many reasons as to why he should do something about it now, rather than wait, several of which may not be an issue for others on here. Not least there's the principle of the fact that his neighbours lied to him and took advantage of his good nature.
Exactly this. I'm not a curtain twitcher or NIMBY, but what I'm hearing makes me understand that
a) there's a clock ticking becase I won't be able to complain after a certain date even if some nightmare tenants move in.
b) it will probably affect my ability to sell my house in future
Sweeping statements and what if's but fair enough, if that's how you feel, it's straight to the local council and solicitor time; the sooner the better.

hora

37,119 posts

211 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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Why sweeping?

Would you buy if you knew there was a commercial venture next door?

What happens if the owner decides to add an extension to that building or start air b&b'ing his own too outside of his mortgage terms?

Planning laws are there for a reason. If your going to flout them you aren't exactly going to be fair are you.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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The Surveyor said:
It's funny isn't it, peoples perception is always that anything of any nature is harmful to their properties perceived value... its as much a British obsession at the weather!
There is also a perception that anything that does negatively impact on the value of your house shouldn't be allowed. It's like we have some sort of god given right to a certain rate of appreciation.

Mind you if the neighbour lied he is taking the piss a bit.

pim

2,344 posts

124 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Don't they rent garages out in London and have families living in them?

I must admit I wouldn't like it if the neighbour started to rent the shed out to a family.Shortage of affordable properties is that the problem.

mel

10,168 posts

275 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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stair said:
mel said:
You say "next to the fence" but how next is it? Less than 1m, between 1m & 2m or 2m+? Also how high is it?
The Height is less likely to be an issue as most off the shelf garden buildings are designed to be kept within the bounds of permitted developments but the proximity to boundary and footprint could also have building regs implications.
It's less than a metre from the fence. Heightwise, I guess it's within the regs - it was an off-the-shelf building as you say.


I suspect (and I can only say what was asked of me when I built similar) that if it's within 1m of the boundary then even if exempt from planning as a permitted development it should have still been through building control who would have insisted on a degree of fire protection to the face nearest the boundary, this could have been as straight forward as being painted in fire retardant paint to a specified height but it would still have needed signing off by a building inspector.

CaptainSensib1e

1,434 posts

221 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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My principle concern about this would whether it affects my ability to enjoy my garden. Having people effectively living right up against my fence would be a bit annoying, especially if they were noisy.

I'd be keeping a close eye on this, and if it started to impact me in any way I'd be straight on to planning.

Ultimately planning rules are there for a reason. While I agree they can be very restrictive and annoying, they are ultimatly there to protect the wider neighbourhood and stop people taking the piss.