6 points for riding an electric unicycle on the pavement

6 points for riding an electric unicycle on the pavement

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TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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750turbo said:
Do you have to be so fking grumpy ALL the time, it is very tiring now.
<shrug> You call it grumpy, I call it a simple answer to the question that was asked.

As far as the actual legal framework for mobility buggies goes, we could start from here...
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1988/2268/made

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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timbo999 said:
You can't ride a bike (as in cycle) on the pavement either...
Oh

BoRED S2upid

19,641 posts

239 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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I hope he will appeal against that if he didn't have a licence or was say 15? Slap on the wrist and a fine. He could have lost his job.

750turbo

6,164 posts

223 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
750turbo said:
Do you have to be so fking grumpy ALL the time, it is very tiring now.
<shrug> You call it grumpy, I call it a simple answer to the question that was asked.

As far as the actual legal framework for mobility buggies goes, we could start from here...
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1988/2268/made
Sometimes, just sometimes , we want a bit of banter and a laugh in here - You spoil every chuffin thread you comment in FFS!

CABC

5,528 posts

100 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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speedyguy said:
timbo999 said:
You can't ride a bike (as in cycle) on the pavement either...
Oh
That sign doesn't refer to a normal pavement I think.
Police in London still occasionally have a morning booking people cycling on pavements
Good job too.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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speedyguy said:
timbo999 said:
You can't ride a bike (as in cycle) on the pavement either...
Oh
Yeh, that's explicitly saying that you CAN cycle here, because it's a shared path. Not just a normal pavement.

Jazzy Jag

3,412 posts

90 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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So if you can get points on your licence for offences committed while using something that doesn't fit the definition of a vehicle for which you would need a licence, can we start issuing points to MAMILs who jump red lights, ride on the pavement etc?

scratchchin

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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750turbo said:
Sometimes, just sometimes , we want a bit of banter and a laugh in here
The lounge is that way ->

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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More importantly, was the rider wearing a clown outfit?laugh

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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CABC said:
speedyguy said:
timbo999 said:
You can't ride a bike (as in cycle) on the pavement either...
Oh
That sign doesn't refer to a normal pavement I think.
Police in London still occasionally have a morning booking people cycling on pavements
Good job too.
I've seen this one which is a 'segregated' path which seems different from the 'shared path'
Maybe if people were just sensible and considerate we wouldn't have these issues smile

ngdragon

Original Poster:

110 posts

162 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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Jazzy Jag said:
So if you can get points on your licence for offences committed while using something that doesn't fit the definition of a vehicle for which you would need a licence, can we start issuing points to MAMILs who jump red lights, ride on the pavement etc?

scratchchin
That's the worry...........

750turbo

6,164 posts

223 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
The lounge is that way ->
Tiring.

Again.

fangio

988 posts

233 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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Jim1556 said:
Utterly fking ridiculous!
A battery assisted toy/cycle is NOT a motor vehicle in any reasonable sense!
Why? 'Cos it suits you?rolleyes

Laurel Green

30,770 posts

231 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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Jazzy Jag said:
What's the difference between riding an electric bicycle, which needs no licence tax insurance or MOT and riding an electric unicycle.?

IIRC there is a legal definition for the electric bicycle in terms of speed power output etc.
Yep, an electric bike must not exceed around 15 MPH otherwise it needs to be registered (number plates) and insured. I know it is a gray area that the police are aware of and is to be looked into at a later date (?).
Think the max power for on road is 200 watts, though most seem to be 250 watts (as is mine) so guess am taking a chance on points being awarded for doing so.

Janluke

2,552 posts

157 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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Laurel Green said:
Jazzy Jag said:
What's the difference between riding an electric bicycle, which needs no licence tax insurance or MOT and riding an electric unicycle.?

IIRC there is a legal definition for the electric bicycle in terms of speed power output etc.
Yep, an electric bike must not exceed around 15 MPH otherwise it needs to be registered (number plates) and insured. I know it is a gray area that the police are aware of and is to be looked into at a later date (?).
Think the max power for on road is 200 watts, though most seem to be 250 watts (as is mine) so guess am taking a chance on points being awarded for doing so.
The latest update of the ebike rules also mean no throttle, the motor only cuts in when the bikes being pedalled
http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/electric-bike-guides/uk-...

Laurel Green

30,770 posts

231 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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Janluke said:
The latest update of the ebike rules also mean no throttle, the motor only cuts in when the bikes being pedalled
http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/electric-bike-guides/uk-...
Thanks for the link. smile

Is good to know that they have gone along with the EU in rating 250 watts as the limit for assisted power and the none requirement of registration, ETC.

Watching Posh Porn and James is riding along the pavement in an electric Peel. yikes

Loyly

17,990 posts

158 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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The bloke got what be deserved. He broke the law and received fair punishment.

Pete317

1,430 posts

221 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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Loyly said:
The bloke got what be deserved. He broke the law and received fair punishment.
Good.
Now I'm looking forward to all those caught riding their cycles -electric or otherwise - on the pavements, getting 6 points, £180 fine, plus their cycles confiscated and destroyed.

Loyly

17,990 posts

158 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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I could forgive pedal cycles riding on the pavement as it's simply a safer alternative to them riding on the road.

ngdragon

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110 posts

162 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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The issues for me are:
a) He was riding a machine which I do not think needs to be registered with the DVLA- as such did it need to insured in the same way as a vehicle?- indeed is such insurance available?
b) He was riding a machine which I do not think requires a driving licence.
Whilst I have no problem with him being given a fine for riding the machine on the pavement, I cannot understand why he was given points on his driving licence- with all the additional punishment that entails, such as potential loss of licence due to totting up and additional insurance costs for a number of years, which could potentially add up to a lot more than the fine. As I commented earlier, what if he didn’t have a driving licence would he have only been fined?
With the increase of electrically assisted machines, in particular cycles, this seems a grey area to say the least. For instance if you cycled illegally on a pavement without electric assistance it could be a fine only. If it could be proven there was some assistance could this lead to points as well?
Better keep our RC cars under wraps......do a lot more than 4mph!!