6 points for riding an electric unicycle on the pavement

6 points for riding an electric unicycle on the pavement

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ngdragon

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110 posts

163 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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heebeegeetee said:
I can't recall how its worded but there are laws that allow accessing from a dropped kerb but I suspect what your old man did was illegal.
Dropped kerbs have to approved by the highways authority- usually your local authority, and constructed to their specification. They will probably insist you use on of their approved contractors to do the work properly. Could easily cost four figures with the cost of approval, inspection and the works themselves. Bits of wood next to the kerb are not permitted!

tigger1

8,402 posts

221 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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Spumfry said:
tigger1 said:
Spumfry said:
7795 said:
you can also be convicted of drink driving on a push bike on the Queens highway and lose your driving license.
No, you can't.
Max fine of £1000 I think, a lot less than the max fine for dangerous cycling. Irrelevant that no license required to ride a bike, but no points / ban directly for this offence (although there's wider legislation that allows driving bans for non-motoring offences isn't there?).
You could be fined £1K for cycling while under the influence of alcohol or drugs but it's not a driving offence, so has no impact on your license.

I've always thought it would be tricky to pursue, as plod can't breathalyse you. So you could have say three pints (or enough to be over the drink drive limit but not obviously drunk) and if you're not breaking any rules of the road I'm not sure what they'd do (or would want to do) - it would be easier for them to politely/firmly suggest you walk your bike home than try to prove intoxication.

Obviously if you've fallen in the gutter because you'd had nine pints and were trying to eat your kebab and cycle at the same time it's going to be easier to prove you were under the influence.

I can't find any info about driving bans for non-motoring offences.
I think the risk with drunk cycling (sorry, "under the influence") is that you will commit other offences (traffic lights, pavements, dangerous cycling etc) - so you're likely to be arguing with a copper about more than one offence...and then potential a magistrate too. But yes, am sure common sense mostly prevails.

Other offences that carry points? Folk have had points for waving to get cars to slow down when there's a speed camera, and there's lots of stuff about discretionary disqualification for people who are trying to steal vehicles, "going equipped", or have committed an offence whilst using their car (kerbcrawling was a big one) that otherwise wouldn't carry a ban

jshell

11,006 posts

205 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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catso said:
It is absolutely ridiculous to give points for an offence not related to driving, how can that be right?

Dunno, but ask the guy who got points for his dog constantly barking and being a noise nuisance! I remember years ago a thread on this and debating it with Von Hosen...

Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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The Highway Code rule mentions 'lawful access to property' in relation to driving on a pavement.

The Police told me they can't prosecute parked cars for pavement driving unless they actually see the person doing it. A parked vehicle is not proof of (pavement) driving or driver.

heebeegeetee

28,735 posts

248 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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Magic919 said:
The Highway Code rule mentions 'lawful access to property' in relation to driving on a pavement.

The Police told me they can't prosecute parked cars for pavement driving unless they actually see the person doing it. A parked vehicle is not proof of (pavement) driving or driver.
That's as I understand it, but as the situation with speeding tickets shows, it's an attitude of choice. And there's no question of the keeper of the car not knowing who drove the car because the keeper has to know that the driver was insured.

So we have the usual situation whereby if a driver can, he will ignore the law. The bizarre bit is where he/she complains about others doing exactly the same, and makes pronouncements such as "it's the law!".

98elise

26,589 posts

161 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Magic919 said:
The Highway Code rule mentions 'lawful access to property' in relation to driving on a pavement.

The Police told me they can't prosecute parked cars for pavement driving unless they actually see the person doing it. A parked vehicle is not proof of (pavement) driving or driver.
I suppose you could argue that the car was lifted/craned into position smile