'Operation Snap' - police want motorists' dashcam videos

'Operation Snap' - police want motorists' dashcam videos

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Ken Figenus

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5,680 posts

116 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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http://www.north-wales.police.uk/news-and-appeals/...

"Ch Insp Darren Wareing, from the force's roads policing unit, said: "If you have footage from a dash cam, your pedal cycle cam or any other source that you feel supports you as a witness to an alleged motoring offence, we want to hear from you.

"Over recent months we have received footage capturing motoring offences including careless and dangerous driving, people on mobile telephones and people being distracted whilst using their smart devices behind the wheel."


Dave Hedgehog

14,541 posts

203 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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oh boy are they going to regret this

the adenoidal dash cam police will be submitting ten's of thousands of offences

"you can clearly see the BMW ahead of me only indicated 9 times before pulling over, instead of 10"

"i had to accelerate to 31.5 mph to keep up with the audi in front of me, the maniac!"

"i was reading my copy of country life whilst maintaining a constant 38mph in a NSL zone when some reckless idiot dared to over take me on a 2 mile straight with no oncoming traffic"


bigandclever

13,750 posts

237 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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Dim gwerth rhech dafad.

Pixelpeep7r

8,600 posts

141 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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whatever happened to video evidence needing to be digitally signed ?

think i'll brush up on my final cut pro skills and stitch my neighbor up smile

hornetrider

63,161 posts

204 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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Is this the beginning of Big Brother proper?

spookly

4,011 posts

94 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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Would amateur dashcam footage be good enough to be used as evidence?

If this became widespread I can foresee the general public becoming very unhappy with people that have dashcams. It's all a bit 1984.

sparkythecat

7,898 posts

254 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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Attendance levels must be down on those lucrative Safety Awareness courses.

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

122 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/1480373...Dad__incensedby_speeding_driver_he_filmed_on_wrong_side_of_road/

The Police, finally, are trying to get to grips with the driving issues in Bradford- so they are welcoming such videos.

To put it into context though, they've achieved this so far:

"Meanwhile, the police’s crackdown on bad driving, which was launched on the back of the T&A’s Stop the Danger Drivers campaign, has now snared 5,225 drivers since it started in February. A total of 158 drivers were listed in the latest weekly Operation Steerside breakdown.

Their offences were: speeding, 68; not wearing a seatbelt, 56; using a mobile phone at the wheel, 11; driving without insurance, five; other, 18. The overall total for each category is: speeding, 1,845; no seatbelt, 1,796; mobile phone use, 530; no insurance, 413; other, 641."

I believe I've been to every bit of the UK just about- trust me, nowhere is as bad as the inner city for poor driving standards. It's like there is an invisible ring around the city- the moment you leave certain postcodes, everything becomes normal again.

Mr Snrub

24,942 posts

226 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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Well we know where Uphillfreewheeler will be having his next holiday

LocoCoco

1,428 posts

175 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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I've already been charged with dangerous driving in said area after a citizen took offence to my driving and sent in the video. I got an NFA result which was nice. You get to learn the complainant's name if they make a statement, maybe think twice about reporting somebody if you have an unusual name.

When watching the video I pointed out how I hadn't exceeded the speed limit or veered out of my lane. The policeman told me that he could never charge me for speeding from public dashcam footage since they aren't calibrated.

Also, you couldn't see who was driving from the rear view the dashcam took (MX5 with roof down, I'm guessing it'll be even harder to identify the driver in most cases), if I had a plausible reason to not know who was driving that day I don't think I would have even had to go in for an interview at all.

It's tempting to get a dashcam and send in umpteen clips each day of careless driving, maybe bait some people so I can edit some good footage. I won't do that though, I remember how it felt when somebody did it to me.

bigandclever

13,750 posts

237 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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austinsmirk said:
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/1480373...Dad__incensedby_speeding_driver_he_filmed_on_wrong_side_of_road/

The Police, finally, are trying to get to grips with the driving issues in Bradford- so they are welcoming such videos.

To put it into context though, they've achieved this so far:

"Meanwhile, the police’s crackdown on bad driving, which was launched on the back of the T&A’s Stop the Danger Drivers campaign, has now snared 5,225 drivers since it started in February. A total of 158 drivers were listed in the latest weekly Operation Steerside breakdown.

Their offences were: speeding, 68; not wearing a seatbelt, 56; using a mobile phone at the wheel, 11; driving without insurance, five; other, 18. The overall total for each category is: speeding, 1,845; no seatbelt, 1,796; mobile phone use, 530; no insurance, 413; other, 641."

I believe I've been to every bit of the UK just about- trust me, nowhere is as bad as the inner city for poor driving standards. It's like there is an invisible ring around the city- the moment you leave certain postcodes, everything becomes normal again.
I'm not sure what the 'context' is ... these figures aren't results from videos sent in by the public, they're from the police doing more to target ste driving as part of Operation Steerside. There aren't any figures that I can see that result from being grassed up by a civvy.

CoolHands

18,498 posts

194 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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I might send them loads of boring clips of nothing much.

Great use of police time.

catso

14,772 posts

266 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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CoolHands said:
I might send them loads of boring clips of nothing much.

Great use of police time.
That they might find the time to do this rather than 'proper' policing is worrying.

surveyor

17,768 posts

183 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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CoolHands said:
I might send them loads of boring clips of nothing much.

Great use of police time.
You can just point them to some of the faccebook groups for that.... I unfortunately got chucked out of one after slightly annoying one trucker who was a mod and posted a stupid video of himself diving impatiently up the inside of a driver who looked a little unsure of which direction he needed to go.

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

122 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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sorry, bigandclever, I agree, I don't know the figures, but the local paper seems to have a piece of dashcam footage nearly daily as part of its reportage.

768

13,602 posts

95 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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CoolHands said:
I might send them loads of boring clips of nothing much.

Great use of police time.
Clips from the latest series of Top Gear perhaps? smile

Ken Figenus

Original Poster:

5,680 posts

116 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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bigandclever said:
Dim gwerth rhech dafad.
LOL!

To be fair its probably fuelled by genuine cases like this absolute clown:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greate...

We have to trust the police to distinguish between 'I didn't like being overtook by a local whilst I was on holiday and happily in a convoy of 12 led by a Stobart or Mansel Davies truck' and nailing absolute reckless drivers like in the video.

Trophy Husband

3,924 posts

106 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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bigandclever said:
Dim gwerth rhech dafad.
There is some value to a sheep's fart. Albeit minor.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

117 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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Mr Snrub said:
Well we know where Uphillfreewheeler will be having his next holiday
Anywhere away from near where I live would be welcome!
What a tosspot he is.

Dogwatch

6,223 posts

221 months

Monday 17th October 2016
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I've got a dash cam but it's such a hassle getting a video off it that I wouldn't bother unless it was something really serious.
Frankly it's more defensive than offensive.