'Operation Snap' - police want motorists' dashcam videos
Discussion
La Liga said:
It sounds like they simply investigated the matter and concluded there was insufficient evidence for a prosecution.
If they had footage of you doing a burnout on two occasions that'd be a prima facie case for due care. You may have been fortunate.
Burnouts? In an MX-5!? I think that was the clutch rather than the tyres. Many a shopping trolley has more power than one of those.If they had footage of you doing a burnout on two occasions that'd be a prima facie case for due care. You may have been fortunate.
La Liga said:
It sounds like they simply investigated the matter and concluded there was insufficient evidence for a prosecution.
If they had footage of you doing a burnout on two occasions that'd be a prima facie case for due care. You may have been fortunate.
It's strange, I thought I was banged to rights on due care and only fought/disputed the dangerous driving. I didn't question it at the time, just got out of there as fast as I could.If they had footage of you doing a burnout on two occasions that'd be a prima facie case for due care. You may have been fortunate.
I wonder why they didn't do me for due care, seems a bit of an open goal for them if video footage of 2 burnouts counts as a prima facie case. I admitted to being behind the wheel. Like you say, I must've got lucky. The video was exactly as described, with sound.
Truffs said:
La Liga said:
It sounds like they simply investigated the matter and concluded there was insufficient evidence for a prosecution.
If they had footage of you doing a burnout on two occasions that'd be a prima facie case for due care. You may have been fortunate.
Burnouts? In an MX-5!? I think that was the clutch rather than the tyres. Many a shopping trolley has more power than one of those.If they had footage of you doing a burnout on two occasions that'd be a prima facie case for due care. You may have been fortunate.
LocoCoco said:
Truffs said:
La Liga said:
It sounds like they simply investigated the matter and concluded there was insufficient evidence for a prosecution.
If they had footage of you doing a burnout on two occasions that'd be a prima facie case for due care. You may have been fortunate.
Burnouts? In an MX-5!? I think that was the clutch rather than the tyres. Many a shopping trolley has more power than one of those.If they had footage of you doing a burnout on two occasions that'd be a prima facie case for due care. You may have been fortunate.
Truffs said:
Sorry, it reminded me of a mate a few years back now describing roaring along the straights and hooning it around the corners. He sounded like he deserved locking up right away by the PH self-righteous, perfect robots but he was actually driving a Wolseley Hornet. He was certainly having fun, which I guess is becoming a crime, but the crime of speeding, unlikely.
Indeed. My friend use to drive everywhere foot flat to the floor. Often at the top speed of the vehicle on the motorway.69mph. It was a 2CV.
Truffs said:
Sorry, it reminded me of a mate a few years back now describing roaring along the straights and hooning it around the corners. He sounded like he deserved locking up right away by the PH self-righteous, perfect robots but he was actually driving a Wolseley Hornet. He was certainly having fun, which I guess is becoming a crime, but the crime of speeding, unlikely.
There's someone on PH who has a framed photo from the speed camera that got him in his Austin 7.InitialDave said:
There's someone on PH who has a framed photo from the speed camera that got him in his Austin 7.
I couldn't find it on PH, but was it this one?http://pub25.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?us...
Vaud said:
Yes!He did post here about it, though.
I doubt it given that North Yorkshire Police are also in on the game with their Operation Spartan...
https://northyorkshire.police.uk/what-we-do/road-p...
https://northyorkshire.police.uk/what-we-do/road-p...
It doesn't seem a terrible idea, at all, if done properly. I'd much rather that the police cracked down on truly dangerous behavior, e.g. tailgating, rather than speeding. The fact is, you're a lot less likely to be prosecuted for aggressive driving than speeding in the current climate. E.g. the speed camera on the A303 - where there's an overtaking lane, the only one for several miles. But no cameras past schools...
Solocle said:
It doesn't seem a terrible idea, at all, if done properly. I'd much rather that the police cracked down on truly dangerous behavior, e.g. tailgating, rather than speeding. The fact is, you're a lot less likely to be prosecuted for aggressive driving than speeding in the current climate. E.g. the speed camera on the A303 - where there's an overtaking lane, the only one for several miles. But no cameras past schools...
Of course there are cameras near schools, what are you talking about?https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5939358,-0.36598...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.6143509,-0.34007...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5796881,-0.36682...
vonhosen said:
Of course there are cameras near schools, what are you talking about?
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5939358,-0.36598...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.6143509,-0.34007...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5796881,-0.36682...
Not in my neck of the woods. Looks like your LA is more safety oriented than revenue oriented.https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5939358,-0.36598...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.6143509,-0.34007...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5796881,-0.36682...
Solocle said:
vonhosen said:
Of course there are cameras near schools, what are you talking about?
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5939358,-0.36598...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.6143509,-0.34007...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5796881,-0.36682...
Not in my neck of the woods. Looks like your LA is more safety oriented than revenue oriented.https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5939358,-0.36598...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.6143509,-0.34007...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5796881,-0.36682...
Solocle said:
It doesn't seem a terrible idea, at all, if done properly. I'd much rather that the police cracked down on truly dangerous behavior, e.g. tailgating, rather than speeding. The fact is, you're a lot less likely to be prosecuted for aggressive driving than speeding in the current climate. E.g. the speed camera on the A303 - where there's an overtaking lane, the only one for several miles. But no cameras past schools...
I agree. You could quite easily drive like a total t
t 95% of the time on the road and have no comeuppance at all simply by virtue of infrequency of Police cars, but go a few MPH over the speed limit near a camera and get prosecuted.If they end up getting dashcam footage of unambiguously reprehensible driving I'm all for them using it in prosecutions.
Durzel said:
I agree. You could quite easily drive like a total tt 95% of the time on the road and have no comeuppance at all simply by virtue of infrequency of Police cars, but go a few MPH over the speed limit near a camera and get prosecuted.
If they end up getting dashcam footage of unambiguously reprehensible driving I'm all for them using it in prosecutions.
Unfortunately the idea is good, but in reality, your average Joe who drives perfectly safely 99% of the time will be in the wrong lane at the wrong time and make an honest mistake, and cut someone up (we all do it from time to time).t 95% of the time on the road and have no comeuppance at all simply by virtue of infrequency of Police cars, but go a few MPH over the speed limit near a camera and get prosecuted.If they end up getting dashcam footage of unambiguously reprehensible driving I'm all for them using it in prosecutions.
Angry dashcammer will accelerate towards to the average Joe, slam the brakes on, horn and gesticulate.
Spiteful and frothing from the mouth, while dribbling (as they are mouth breathers!) they will then send this information over to the relevant forces and said average Joe will likely be prosecuted....
Be very careful what you wish for. It's all too easy to create a state where a single mistake gets you dobbed in, so to speak.
I have a feeling that those of us with louder exhausts on their cars will probably end up with lots of NIMBY do-gooders sending in footage of them accelerating up to the posted limit. "Oh but it made a noise like the four horsemen of the apocalypse so must have been breaking the speed limit OMG".
xjay1337 said:
Unfortunately the idea is good, but in reality, your average Joe who drives perfectly safely 99% of the time will be in the wrong lane at the wrong time and make an honest mistake, and cut someone up (we all do it from time to time).
Angry dashcammer will accelerate towards to the average Joe, slam the brakes on, horn and gesticulate.
Spiteful and frothing from the mouth, while dribbling (as they are mouth breathers!) they will then send this information over to the relevant forces and said average Joe will likely be prosecuted....
Be very careful what you wish for. It's all too easy to create a state where a single mistake gets you dobbed in, so to speak.
I honestly don't think there are enough hours in the day, nor enough Police for that matter, to deal with genuine errors like that. They aren't pulling people over who do that in front of them as it is.Angry dashcammer will accelerate towards to the average Joe, slam the brakes on, horn and gesticulate.
Spiteful and frothing from the mouth, while dribbling (as they are mouth breathers!) they will then send this information over to the relevant forces and said average Joe will likely be prosecuted....
Be very careful what you wish for. It's all too easy to create a state where a single mistake gets you dobbed in, so to speak.
Genuinely reckless & sustained antics will stand out pretty clear of that kind of stuff imo.
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