Views on Porsche Cayenne seized by GMP

[Sheepshanks]

SteveSteveson said:

So the police took the first car because it was stolen.

The Porsche was on SOR so "stolen" is a very debatable point, hence the surprise at the Police wading in. I don't think the status of the BMWs has been mentioned - they might have been "normal" stock.

[Dave Hedgehog]

SteveSteveson said:

So the police took the first car because it was stolen. They went back to the garage and the resolution was to give them two BMWs, and they saw nothing wrong with this offer, and no likelihood that the garage that had sold them a stolen car would be giving them two more stolen cars? Cars are one of the easiest things to check the status of and they wonder why the police are not interested in them as victims.

how do you check the status of a SoR car, if the owner still thinks its for sale?

[berlintaxi]

Sheepshanks said:

SteveSteveson said:

So the police took the first car because it was stolen.

The Porsche was on SOR so "stolen" is a very debatable point, hence the surprise at the Police wading in. I don't think the status of the BMWs has been mentioned - they might have been "normal" stock.

I doubt he knew the meaning of "normal stock", the whole operation stank to high heaven.

[Burwood]

The police should do this sort of thing. Stolen means to take or appropriate without right. It's not a civil matter. The garage is a front for a criminal enterprise. The new buyers will get compensation from some dealer body.. Almost certainly financed it.

[anonymous-user]

Here is a topic started by the guy whos car it was:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Hes a ph'er!

[Shakermaker]

Oakey said:

TooMany2cvs said:

WTF is "dog hydrotherapy", anyway, and how does it pay so well...?

1. Put dog in harness contraption
2. Lower dog into paddling pool
3. ????
4. Profit

In the Daily Mail article, she apparently runs a boarding home for rabbits.

Either he makes all the money, or she sold the dog hydrotherapy business for a big sack of cash.

[youngsyr]

On a separate note:

article said:

The tracker showed it was inside the garage

How so - I thought the only way a tracker could give such a precise location was by GPS, which needs line of sight to a satellite?

Does the tracker report last known position too? If so, the wording of the article is slightly inaccurate - the tracker cannot report that it's inside a garage, it can only report that the last known position was just outside the garage.

[768]

I don't know squat about car trackers, but it's certainly possible to augment GPS with other information, something as simple as simple and cheap as an accelerometer can be used for dead reckoning. YMMV.

[Sheepshanks]

youngsyr said:

How so - I thought the only way a tracker could give such a precise location was by GPS, which needs line of sight to a satellite?

It works best is there's line of sight but it can work indoors. If the car was in flimsy garage it would likely work OK, and it can work through windows.

[anonymous-user]

Tracker use GSM (you get mobile signal indoors), VHF well as GPS so it's very often active when inside vehicles.

[youngsyr]

La Liga said:

Tracker use GSM (you get mobile signal indoors), VHF well as GPS so it's very often active when inside vehicles.

I get that, but the only one of those that can provide an even close to accurate position (say within 20 metres) is GPS, isn't it?

[Shakermaker]

ash73 said:

I'm curious why the car was classified as stolen if the original owner gave the garage permission to sell it. If the garage didn't pay up why is it not treated as an outstanding debt?

I'll never buy a car that is on sale or return after reading this!

I would, but only after contact with the current owner. Though I'm unlikely to be in that kind of position anytime soon.

[hora]

How do you know it's sale or return? If a seller is bent how would/could you tell?

Was the Porsche sold at a good discount?

[carreauchompeur]

Nasty orange people buy nasty orange car from nasty con artist.
Nasty orange car turns out to be moody so nasty policeman comes
Nasty policeman damages nasty orange drive
Nasty orange people want revenge on policeman so say nasty orange drive needs complete relay

[TooMany2cvs]

Meanwhile, police turn up at another house in search of stuff stolen from the orange people in chunky knitwear.

"No, Constable, we can't go in there. Look - there's a bit of red plastic tape dangling across the drive. We Shall Not Cross. Their drive might have been newly surfaced in Genuine Real Stone (tm) that still needs time to cure."
"Oh, OK, Sarge"
<wanders back to station to scratch bks and shuffle paperwork>
<cue irate Daily Wail photo heading article B - "What do we pay the police for?">

[anonymous-user]

youngsyr said:

La Liga said:

Tracker use GSM (you get mobile signal indoors), VHF well as GPS so it's very often active when inside vehicles.

I get that, but the only one of those that can provide an even close to accurate position (say within 20 metres) is GPS, isn't it?

I'm not sure to be fair. I've been present when police cars fitted with tracker trackers have taken us to locations through beeps which have decreasing intervals until it's a continuous beep. Perhaps then it was a case of logically seeing where it was likely to be within a set radius.