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donkeys years ago, the police let my friend off from speeding- by his own admission he was doing a good 80mph on his motorbike.
but it was at about 6 am, country/quiet roads.
the reason- he'd just finished his shift at a mental home- during which he'd spent an hour, or perhaps longer holding the legs of someone who'd jumped through a window trying to kill himself. why so long ? despite shouting for help, he just couldn't raise the attention of other staff and he just couldn't get this person back in ok.
so to unwind after an awful night, he wanted to thrash his bike home and let some steam off.
the policeman thought he'd had enough grief that night already !
but it was at about 6 am, country/quiet roads.
the reason- he'd just finished his shift at a mental home- during which he'd spent an hour, or perhaps longer holding the legs of someone who'd jumped through a window trying to kill himself. why so long ? despite shouting for help, he just couldn't raise the attention of other staff and he just couldn't get this person back in ok.
so to unwind after an awful night, he wanted to thrash his bike home and let some steam off.
the policeman thought he'd had enough grief that night already !
Rangeroverover said:
Hardly crime of the century, 70 in a 60 probably means speedo was on 75ish not the end of the world
OP said:
so pre-occupied with work worries she habitually loses concentration when behind the wheel
That bit from the OP struck me as more important than a little bit of excess speed. That quite easily could be the end of the world for someone if she keeps driving like that.I have made donations to our local hospice in the past so, using roofer's "logic", can I also endanger others by driving dangerously?
Completely OT now, but I don't get this sentiment. If one has decided to be the arbiter of one's own speed, then surely the 60/30 thing is an arbitrary distinction? It's about the safety of the speed/conditions, ability to stop in the conditions, having a plan, being defensive, highly observant etc. Whether it's a 60 or a 30 is just part of the information surely?
Bert
Bert
wack said:
70 in a 60, anyone who posts on PH who hasn't done that at least once this month should be banned 
40 in a 30, public flogging , open roads fair game
40 in a 30, public flogging , open roads fair game
BertBert said:
Completely OT now, but I don't get this sentiment. If one has decided to be the arbiter of one's own speed, then surely the 60/30 thing is an arbitrary distinction? It's about the safety of the speed/conditions, ability to stop in the conditions, having a plan, being defensive, highly observant etc. Whether it's a 60 or a 30 is just part of the information surely?
Bert
I believe it is more to do with the fact that 30 mph is usually for built up areas (residental, town centres etc) where there are lots of people or a chance for people to wander into the road.Bert
wack said:
70 in a 60, anyone who posts on PH who hasn't done that at least once this month should be banned
40 in a 30, public flogging , open roads fair game
40 in a 30, public flogging , open roads fair game
60 mph zones tend to be dual-carriageways or country roads, where the chances of hitting a random pedestrian are much smaller.
WJNB said:
Am so cross Need to share this story. At a hospice I work alongside a lovely nurse who holds down 2 jobs sometimes working 3 days & nights non-stop to make ends meet looking after her son yet she gets so pre-occupied with work worries she habitually loses concentration when behind the wheel & speeds. She already has 6 points on her licence (she thinks!!)& at 70mph in a 60mph limit has just gone round a blind corner & past a speed camera van parked 100 yards before a fixed camera. She flipping well knows it's a favoured camera vans location too!!
She wonders if a SAC course will be offered, & I have suggested that's highly unlikely given the excess speed & previous points.
As well as being cross am frustrated that there is no way I as a work colleague can persuade her to change her driving habits or take some of the work & her lifestyle stress's away from her.
Thanks for reading & I know it's all in the lap of luck & the Gods.
If they run courses in her area and she hasn't done one in the last 3 years then she will probably be offered one.She wonders if a SAC course will be offered, & I have suggested that's highly unlikely given the excess speed & previous points.
As well as being cross am frustrated that there is no way I as a work colleague can persuade her to change her driving habits or take some of the work & her lifestyle stress's away from her.
Thanks for reading & I know it's all in the lap of luck & the Gods.
The Beaver King said:
BertBert said:
Completely OT now, but I don't get this sentiment. If one has decided to be the arbiter of one's own speed, then surely the 60/30 thing is an arbitrary distinction? It's about the safety of the speed/conditions, ability to stop in the conditions, having a plan, being defensive, highly observant etc. Whether it's a 60 or a 30 is just part of the information surely?
Bert
I believe it is more to do with the fact that 30 mph is usually for built up areas (residental, town centres etc) where there are lots of people or a chance for people to wander into the road.Bert
wack said:
70 in a 60, anyone who posts on PH who hasn't done that at least once this month should be banned
40 in a 30, public flogging , open roads fair game
40 in a 30, public flogging , open roads fair game
60 mph zones tend to be dual-carriageways or country roads, where the chances of hitting a random pedestrian are much smaller.
She needs to start paying attention or pay the price. It's really not complicated. I'd like to be superior and ignore it too, but if I do I'll get done.
On a lighter note, a mate's sister is a medic in a hospital in a big city. One day she was on her way home late one evening, knackered and p*ssed off so not really switched on to the speed limits. She got pulled by a patrol car for speeding. "Terribly sorry officer, I'm a doctor at the hospital, I've just had an emergency call." "An emergency call to the hospital you say? Right, follow me madam!" Blues and twos on, the copper set off "making progress" through the middle of town and the pair of them screeched into the hospital car park that she'd left 10 minutes earlier. "Right madam. Doctor, I mean. Glad to be of assistance!" and off he went. She didn't dare just go home so she had to go back into the hospital and hide in her office for an hour until she decided it was safe to make an appearance. Carefully, and within the speed limit.
On a lighter note, a mate's sister is a medic in a hospital in a big city. One day she was on her way home late one evening, knackered and p*ssed off so not really switched on to the speed limits. She got pulled by a patrol car for speeding. "Terribly sorry officer, I'm a doctor at the hospital, I've just had an emergency call." "An emergency call to the hospital you say? Right, follow me madam!" Blues and twos on, the copper set off "making progress" through the middle of town and the pair of them screeched into the hospital car park that she'd left 10 minutes earlier. "Right madam. Doctor, I mean. Glad to be of assistance!" and off he went. She didn't dare just go home so she had to go back into the hospital and hide in her office for an hour until she decided it was safe to make an appearance. Carefully, and within the speed limit.
Truffs said:
Don`t forget the Queen. No driving license or plates required and FOI`s and all that named driving stuff is rubbish too. Oh, and of course, the fact that she cannot be prosecuted anyway. Wait till we have King Charles...
Des she not need a license?I know that the fact she has no plates is because all of the Rollers/the Bentley belong to the state rather than a private individual.
Here private land rover has plates.
The Beaver King said:
BertBert said:
Completely OT now, but I don't get this sentiment. If one has decided to be the arbiter of one's own speed, then surely the 60/30 thing is an arbitrary distinction? It's about the safety of the speed/conditions, ability to stop in the conditions, having a plan, being defensive, highly observant etc. Whether it's a 60 or a 30 is just part of the information surely?
I believe it is more to do with the fact that 30 mph is usually for built up areas (residental, town centres etc) where there are lots of people or a chance for people to wander into the road.wack said:
70 in a 60, anyone who posts on PH who hasn't done that at least once this month should be banned
40 in a 30, public flogging , open roads fair game
40 in a 30, public flogging , open roads fair game
60 mph zones tend to be dual-carriageways or country roads, where the chances of hitting a random pedestrian are much smaller.
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