£14 Tax deducted from £86.40 earnings via shambolic employer

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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:

P46 aren't used any more.

https://www.gov.uk/new-employee-tax-code/y/you-don...

D'oh!!!

[2 sMoKiN bArReLs]

As I said

If you follow this link 1100L Wk1/M1 should have been used (if it's her only current job)

If it's first job of the year 1100L could be used. (which re-reading OP sounds like this)

In any event 0 should not have been used

https://www.gov.uk/new-employee-tax-code/y/you-don...

Edited by 2 sMoKiN bArReLs on Thursday 20th October 20:06

[2 sMoKiN bArReLs]

C'mon Eric....back me up here!

(You can never find an accountant when you want one )

[Ahbefive]

2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:

Ahbefive said:

Because with no p45 you pretty much always start on emergency tax.

Wrong on every level I'm afraid

No its not. Pretty standard practice.

[2 sMoKiN bArReLs]

Ahbefive said:

2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:

Ahbefive said:

Because with no p45 you pretty much always start on emergency tax.

Wrong on every level I'm afraid

No its not. Pretty standard practice.

No, it's just not!!

Have you not checked out the HMRC link above?

[Ahbefive]

Yes it just is.

Have a google if you have never had any experience of it. It's a very common occurence that has happened to tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands if not millions of people in the UK.

[2 sMoKiN bArReLs]

Ahbefive said:

Yes it just is.

Have a google if you have never had any experience of it. It's a very common occurence that has happened to tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands if not millions of people in the UK.

Good grief.

Let's wind back. What the employer has done is fundamentally wrong. They should have gone through the process per the link above.

It ain't "standard practice" to fk it up just because many do.

The OP has come on here looking for advice, and so far mine has been the only stuff that's vaguely correct.

That's it

[Ahbefive]

2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:

It ain't "standard practice" to fk it up just because many do.

Thats where you are wrong. A quick google or some real life experience of it and you would see that it is massively common.

[2 sMoKiN bArReLs]

Ahbefive said:

2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:

It ain't "standard practice" to fk it up just because many do.

Thats where you are wrong. A quick google or some real life experience of it and you would see that it is massively common.

Jeez louise.

Yes it's common. No, it ain't right. Geddit?

Blimey

[Ahbefive]

When did I say it was right? I said its pretty standard practice, very common and you should get used to it. Geddit?

[2 sMoKiN bArReLs]

Ahbefive said:

Because with no p45 you pretty much always start on emergency tax.

Full blown internet argument!

This is where you technically started to go wrong.

Pretty much always is bollicks (and there's no such thing as emergency tax since the 1970s )

If an employer follows the link above the OP partner should have had 1100L or 1100L wk1/m1 tax code.

More companies get it right than get it wrong, but OP partner clearly works for muppets.

I've just twigged....are you OP boss?

Edited by 2 sMoKiN bArReLs on Thursday 20th October 21:30

[Ahbefive]

[KevinCamaroSS]

I'm betting that either:

a) Employee gave no information to new employer so new employer ticked the fourth option - no information;

or)

b) New employer neglected to give the new employee the New Starter Information Sheet

Best bet is B.

[anonymous-user]

KevinCamaroSS said:

I'm betting that either:

a) Employee gave no information to new employer so new employer ticked the fourth option - no information;

or)

b) New employer neglected to give the new employee the New Starter Information Sheet

Best bet is B.

I've been thinking for a while that either a) or some version of that was the case. To be fair, said he OP doesn't seem too knowledgable and certain other posters appear to have taken what he has posted as being accurate and true.

[Foliage]

BlimeyCharlie said:

Thanks for replies, but I'm really not getting how an employer can advertise a job that pays £7.20 an hour, bearing in mind the employee (my partner) has given all information that the employer has asked for, for the employee to only get paid £6.03 an hour

Say what now?

Also she will get the tax back, maybe depending how much she works between now and april.

Maybe she should just resign, I imagine you've come on here coz shes crying about it, but this is normal.

[LeighW]

2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:

Ahbefive said:

Because with no p45 you pretty much always start on emergency tax.

Full blown internet argument!

This is where you technically started to go wrong.

Pretty much always is bollicks (and there's no such thing as emergency tax since the 1970s )

If an employer follows the link above the OP partner should have had 1100L or 1100L wk1/m1 tax code.

More companies get it right than get it wrong, but OP partner clearly works for muppets.

I've just twigged....are you OP boss?

Edited by 2 sMoKiN bArReLs on Thursday 20th October 21:30

I'm guessing he means 'emergency tax code' which is what a week 1 / month 1 code is often called. Bottom line, if the OP's other half completed the new starter declaration form correctly, and she's had no other employment since 6th April, then the employer should have used the normal 1100L code.

Procedure:
1) New employer is supplied with P45 - employer uses code from P45.
2) Employee completes starter checklist (replacement for old P46):
Statement A - no previous employment - code 1100L
Statement B - had other job, this is now main job - code 1100L Wk1/Mth1
Statement C - have another job - code BR (basic rate 20% tax deducted from all pay)
3) Employee doesn't provide starter checklist info - code 0T (tax decucted from all pay at appropriate rate, including higher rate if pay level dictates)

[InitialDave]

I'd imagine the employer either screwed up, or has a habit of defaulting to the use of a 0T and W1/M1 tax code, because it is "safer" to let more money go to the taxman, and get it back later, than to go the other way. That's not really the right mentality, but I can see how some people would behave that way.

[zedstar]

An employee declaring it's their first job gets a tax code this year of 1100L, subsequent job without a P45 would be 1100L W1/M1. I've never used 0T for a first job in the tax year.

Fear not though the revised tax code from HMRC wil restore her to where she should be...

[s3fella]

fk me, it's 14 quid and she will get it back next month!

[thatsprettyshady]

Okay here's some help: don't be hasty with blaming employer, they just submit details to the big bad government tax computer so are bound to abide to what it comes up with tax-wise.

Ask your better half to ring 0300 200 3300, they will go through the checks regarding previous employment and current job status, they will send details direct to your employer advising them of correct tax code.

Any overpayment will be automatically refunded in subsequent pay runs (this is the upside of the big bad government tax computer.)

FYI calm it with the below minimum wage stuff - by the same logic anyone on min wage who happens to earn over (I think?) 10k p/a and therefore subject to tax deductions will be paid "under minimum wage" at the end of the day. Again that's not the employers fault.

One last thing - you mention deductions from wages, what are these? Are they mentioned on the pay slip? What for?