Row with neighbour about parking
Discussion
ClaphamGT3 said:
Someone snapped it up, to use for parking purposes.Centurion07 said:
ASONI said:
Missing the point completely and again brining legalities into it. For the umpteenth time, we all know it's not illegal and we don't own that land.
As you said, you would not park your car in front of someone else's home if you could help it. This is the point. The op did not HAVE to park in that space, they all have a space so not as if there was nowhere else to park, he chose to do so because it was more convenient for him, ignoring the fact it was even more convenient for the guy that actually lives there.
The OP has one space allocated to his flat which his missus uses. He then has to find somewhere to park HIS car. Nobhead homeowner has filled his "allocated parking" (his driveway) with 3 cars and has to find somewhere to park his son's van. They both have equal right to park on the road. End of.As you said, you would not park your car in front of someone else's home if you could help it. This is the point. The op did not HAVE to park in that space, they all have a space so not as if there was nowhere else to park, he chose to do so because it was more convenient for him, ignoring the fact it was even more convenient for the guy that actually lives there.
I can very well understand white van man being annoyed this, despite not agreeing with his reactions.
ASONI said:
His driveway doesn't count, that's his own land which he has paid for.
And the road is not. End of.As you point out, he's filled up the parking he HAS paid for, same as the OP, so now they're both having to use space neither have paid for OR have any more right to use than anyone else.
Everyone saying buy a 500 transit to piss the guy off, what a daft idea. OP cannot park in the space and it costs him 500 quid, it's retarded.
OP, you know the law, your entitled to park there, as is he. The trouble you have, and you know you have, is that this guy may well key your car, and it may cost you as you may not be able to prove it. Also, they have how many cars versus how many you have? If they start parking all theirs on the road, you may not have anywhere in the street to park yours.
It is not worth getting involved in an argument, IMHO. In fact, I'd actively try to appease the chap if I were you. Understand his position, whether it be convenience, security, maybe his son leaves for work dead early and they don't want to upset neighbours up the street with him starting his van early, outside their own house it wakes them up! Who knows? But it is obviously something that bothers him, so why not try to get along with him and sort something else out?
Your car may well end up being far less at risk parked up the street or out the way of your sight, after all, it may be visible from your front room, but you don't sleep there, and don't watch it 24 hours! It's just not worth the hassle IMO, and you never know, if you concede to your neighbour you may end up getting along ok and having someone you can ask the odd favour of, after all, HE knows the law too and knows that he can only ask you to appease him.
OP, you know the law, your entitled to park there, as is he. The trouble you have, and you know you have, is that this guy may well key your car, and it may cost you as you may not be able to prove it. Also, they have how many cars versus how many you have? If they start parking all theirs on the road, you may not have anywhere in the street to park yours.
It is not worth getting involved in an argument, IMHO. In fact, I'd actively try to appease the chap if I were you. Understand his position, whether it be convenience, security, maybe his son leaves for work dead early and they don't want to upset neighbours up the street with him starting his van early, outside their own house it wakes them up! Who knows? But it is obviously something that bothers him, so why not try to get along with him and sort something else out?
Your car may well end up being far less at risk parked up the street or out the way of your sight, after all, it may be visible from your front room, but you don't sleep there, and don't watch it 24 hours! It's just not worth the hassle IMO, and you never know, if you concede to your neighbour you may end up getting along ok and having someone you can ask the odd favour of, after all, HE knows the law too and knows that he can only ask you to appease him.
s3fella said:
Everyone saying buy a 500 transit to piss the guy off, what a daft idea. OP cannot park in the space and it costs him 500 quid, it's retarded.
OP, you know the law, your entitled to park there, as is he. The trouble you have, and you know you have, is that this guy may well key your car, and it may cost you as you may not be able to prove it. Also, they have how many cars versus how many you have? If they start parking all theirs on the road, you may not have anywhere in the street to park yours.
It is not worth getting involved in an argument, IMHO. In fact, I'd actively try to appease the chap if I were you. Understand his position, whether it be convenience, security, maybe his son leaves for work dead early and they don't want to upset neighbours up the street with him starting his van early, outside their own house it wakes them up! Who knows? But it is obviously something that bothers him, so why not try to get along with him and sort something else out?
Your car may well end up being far less at risk parked up the street or out the way of your sight, after all, it may be visible from your front room, but you don't sleep there, and don't watch it 24 hours! It's just not worth the hassle IMO, and you never know, if you concede to your neighbour you may end up getting along ok and having someone you can ask the odd favour of, after all, HE knows the law too and knows that he can only ask you to appease him.
I think you're giving my neighbour far too much credit. While I agree with most of what you said, saying that he knows the law (he doesn't, he's dead set that the space outside his house is his) is incorrect and implying that I can have any kind of friendly relationship with a mouthy thug who threatens strangers is simply wrong.OP, you know the law, your entitled to park there, as is he. The trouble you have, and you know you have, is that this guy may well key your car, and it may cost you as you may not be able to prove it. Also, they have how many cars versus how many you have? If they start parking all theirs on the road, you may not have anywhere in the street to park yours.
It is not worth getting involved in an argument, IMHO. In fact, I'd actively try to appease the chap if I were you. Understand his position, whether it be convenience, security, maybe his son leaves for work dead early and they don't want to upset neighbours up the street with him starting his van early, outside their own house it wakes them up! Who knows? But it is obviously something that bothers him, so why not try to get along with him and sort something else out?
Your car may well end up being far less at risk parked up the street or out the way of your sight, after all, it may be visible from your front room, but you don't sleep there, and don't watch it 24 hours! It's just not worth the hassle IMO, and you never know, if you concede to your neighbour you may end up getting along ok and having someone you can ask the odd favour of, after all, HE knows the law too and knows that he can only ask you to appease him.
I've decided to move my car a few houses down. Unfortunately I can no longer see it (agreed, I don't sleep in the lounge, but now if I hear a car alarm I can't just peak out to make sure it's not me) but rather that than leaving it at semi permanent risk by parking it outside his house.
I don't like it, I'm not happy about it, I detest being bullied, and the other half seems more p*ssed off about it than me. It's a sh*tty situation which he alone has caused. If he were civil about it then I would've backed down and said fair enough. But he wasn't. He immediately started yelling (which is a quick way to wind me up) and threatened to damage my property. He threw civility out the window straight away. People like him don't deserve courtesy.
Trabi601 said:
Is the neighbourhood really so bad you need to be able to see your car from the flat?
If it is, parking discussions with neighbours are the least of your worries.
There's nothing wrong with the neighbourhood. Am I not allowed to be precious over my car? I do kinda like it, y'know.If it is, parking discussions with neighbours are the least of your worries.
CasuallyDressed said:
Trabi601 said:
Is the neighbourhood really so bad you need to be able to see your car from the flat?
If it is, parking discussions with neighbours are the least of your worries.
There's nothing wrong with the neighbourhood. Am I not allowed to be precious over my car? I do kinda like it, y'know.If it is, parking discussions with neighbours are the least of your worries.
Seriously, are there any spare spaces in the car park attached to your flat? Any elderly people who may not have a car and would welcome a little extra income from a sub-let on their surplus parking space.
The Surveyor said:
How precious are you over your partners car, park yours in the space that comes with the flat, simple.!
Seriously, are there any spare spaces in the car park attached to your flat? Any elderly people who may not have a car and would welcome a little extra income from a sub-let on their surplus parking space.
Booting my partner out of the car park is rather harsh on her, don't you think? "Babe, I don't feel like dealing with the tSeriously, are there any spare spaces in the car park attached to your flat? Any elderly people who may not have a car and would welcome a little extra income from a sub-let on their surplus parking space.
t over the road, so I'm kicking your car out so you can deal with him instead".Literally every space in the block is taken. It's only a small block, around 10 flats. My actual neighbour (as in, the flat next door) goes away for a few months at the end of November and he's offered me his space while he's away. So there's a respite there.
CasuallyDressed said:
Booting my partner out of the car park is rather harsh on her, don't you think? "Babe, I don't feel like dealing with the tt over the road, so I'm kicking your car out so you can deal with him instead".
It was meant a little tongue-in-cheek, but the point was that between you park the nicest car in the space allocated with your flat, and the other on the street. t over the road, so I'm kicking your car out so you can deal with him instead".StottyEvo said:
bitwrx said:
budgie smuggler said:
Iva Barchetta said:
Ilovejapcrap said:
When 2 morons meet.Deeply unpleasant chap.
turned it off at this point. 2 morons.
I genuinely can't decide if you three are trolls or just idiots. What a strange thread
You can park on the public highway where restrictions etc allow it, just like you can drive on the public highway too.
I suppose those saying that the OP shouldn't be parking where he can legally park also have an issue with him driving where he can legally drive.
Why not everyone ditch their cars and walk......but wait, people have issues with folk walking where they can legally walk too.
You can park on the public highway where restrictions etc allow it, just like you can drive on the public highway too.
I suppose those saying that the OP shouldn't be parking where he can legally park also have an issue with him driving where he can legally drive.
Why not everyone ditch their cars and walk......but wait, people have issues with folk walking where they can legally walk too.
ASONI said:
Missing the point completely and again brining legalities into it. For the umpteenth time, we all know it's not illegal and we don't own that land.
As you said, you would not park your car in front of someone else's home if you could help it. This is the point. The op did not HAVE to park in that space, they all have a space so not as if there was nowhere else to park, he chose to do so because it was more convenient for him, ignoring the fact it was even more convenient for the guy that actually lives there.
Let us consider a scenario. You come to visit your girlfriend where there is no available parking space in the flats car park so you need to leave it on the street. There are only two spaces available on the street, one right outside the flats in front of somebody's house, and a second 100m away, in front of somebody else's house.As you said, you would not park your car in front of someone else's home if you could help it. This is the point. The op did not HAVE to park in that space, they all have a space so not as if there was nowhere else to park, he chose to do so because it was more convenient for him, ignoring the fact it was even more convenient for the guy that actually lives there.
Do you:
A) park in the space outside the flat?
B) park in the space 100m down the road?
C) give up and go home?
Bearing in mind both spaces are outside houses I know which option I would take. For me the answer is A every time.
imdeman87 said:
Ilovejapcrap said:
Classy.and Dartford
Gravesend
Strood
Maidstone
hmmm best just nuke NW kent from orbit, its the only way to be sure
ASONI said:
egAs103 said:
What i dont understand with the majority of posts on this thread is why people who rent or buy a property dont ensure it meets their needs in terms of parking. Why do they then see fit to inconvenience those who paid to meet their needs just so they feel they are one up on them. A drop kerb or space outside ones house should be respected; grow up and dont park outside someones house where inconvenience is caused for a resident who a) might have children that struggle to cycle out from or cross the road b) might struggle to get in/out of their drive due to your lack of respect c) not want a white van man parking outside working early hours/shift work coming and going at stupid o clock or for example d) have a terminal illness, be generally old and just cant be bothered with the Idiots parking vans, skips or cars etc outside their house with no respect or either to get back at them.
Really you lot get a life and live to your means. A camera pointing on your precious car whilst parked "just" where you can see it from the comfort of your girlfriends front window? Registering a cheap motor in your neighbours name to cause them DVLA inconvenience....just get a life and follow the simple rules of life...dont deliberatly go out if your way to annoy somebody.... that if you get to know might just surprise you!
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Spot on. A number of people that have no issue with parking in front of someone's house have commented to my posts, advising me if it's that big a problem, buy a house with more parking. I'm sorry but go and tell that to the people you are defending, as it's clearly them that needs to take that advice on board, so they wouldn't need to park in front of other people homes. Really you lot get a life and live to your means. A camera pointing on your precious car whilst parked "just" where you can see it from the comfort of your girlfriends front window? Registering a cheap motor in your neighbours name to cause them DVLA inconvenience....just get a life and follow the simple rules of life...dont deliberatly go out if your way to annoy somebody.... that if you get to know might just surprise you!
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Ps There is space outside my house for 4-5 cars. We purposely took this into account when buying, as we have 3-4 cars. Everyone on my street, in fact the whole estate generally park in front of their homes, just basic common sense. There will rarely be someone else's car in front of my house, and on the odd occasion there is, it doesn't bother me. I'd be annoyed if someone did it regularly, as would other people on the street if I did it to them.
That being said I want to apply some clarification.
I know that you have no legal right to the "space" outside the front of your house.
I used to live in this very same arrangement. One allocated space. me and my flat mate.
Luckily, there were lots of visitor spots. And the lady one floor up didn't drive, we asked her and she said we were more than welcome to use her space. If there was no space anywhere we would park up the road in the (free) public car park for the childrens playground.
A little bit of civility goes a long way. To park your car outside of someone elses house, IN ANOTHER STREET (?) when you don't even actually live on that street (you claim it's your girlfriends property, so you stay there some / most nights?) is selfish.
Park your car where it will not annoy anyone, do you seriously f
king stand there looking at it all night?I remember when I was that protective about my car, now while I take reasonable steps once it's parked, it's parked and I go about my business.
You need to find property that is suitable for you. Mrs and I very recently got tenancy on a new property to rent.
I have a Motorcycle, and a car, she also has a car. We needed somewhere with suitable parking.
We found a property in a nice estate that has ample parking on the road, a garage and a parking spot infront of the garage.
We actually discounted properties which had 1 space only because this would not be suitable for our needs.
While in some estates it's a case of park where you can, ultimately you should appreciate (and understand) that while there is no legal right, there is an expectation that the house owner should be able to park outside of their own house.
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