Row with neighbour about parking

Row with neighbour about parking

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Vaud

50,482 posts

155 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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AVV EM said:
Hopefully KH doesn't have any offspring.
What was going through his head thinking its acceptable to smack someone up for parking in front of their house? confused
Two sides to every story, maybe. If the guy had followed him, then the student turns around suddenly to go to move his car... the guy then thinks he is going to punch him, etc. Self defence. I have no idea, just two ways to tell the same story.

deltashad

6,731 posts

197 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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I haven't read anything. There's too many pages.
People like this are just idiot bullies.
Better off parking elsewhere. On a personal level if it was me, especially as the cold nights are coming in I would get up early, defecate in a plastic bag and rim his door handles, should still be a bit moist. In the summer months this will not work.

Riley Blue

20,955 posts

226 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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RYH64E said:
Trabi601 said:
If challenged, the students all have 'the right to park there'. Absolutely no consideration for residents of the housing estate.
They do have the right to park there, that's the way it is.

Our local college tried telling the students where they could or couldn't park but they have no control over public roads. Big college, no car parks for the students, outcome inevitable.
A few years ago we had exactly the same with students' cars parked all over the place including in front of residents' garages and half-on, half-off the pavement all round the estate. It got so bad that the police and emergency services used to leaflet their cars warning them about obstruction. In the end, single yellow lines appeared restricting parking to evenings and weekends, not even residents parking is permitted at other times.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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AnotherGuy said:
Hol said:
Devil2575 said:
johnwilliams77 said:
Devil2575 said:
Which is happens on no normal street ever.
Yes it does
Show me. Google street view.
Its a postcode lottery (obviously).

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.296937,-0.212527...
I can do even better than that (no yellow lines - single or otherwise)

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.8906027,0.872616...
Ah yes, nice normal streets, especially the first one biggrin

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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Trabi601 said:
Whilst it's legal, it's impolite and I'd never even consider it. I hate sticking my car outside someone else's house and go out of my way to avoid it.
People used to think the same about going out without a hat on. I imagine they thought that the next generation were terribly impolite biggrin

problemchild1976

1,376 posts

149 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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As residents in a street/community you can all come to an arrangement whereby people park outside their own house (which normally happens naturally) and if a house has too many cars then you normally don't park outside someone elses house if they normally park there....

HOWEVER, there is nothing to stop anyone else parking outside your house or visitors to neighbours or the police or a taxi driver

People need to realise there is a reason why a house with off-street parking costs more!! If you don't pay for parking on your own property then you have no god given right to it on a public road paid for by the local tax payers!

Get over it

Threatening to torch someones car is nasty and the behaviour of the uneducated

If you think its an issue then call 101 and tell the police and listen to them laugh at you down the phone

Telling someone they can't park outside your house on a public road is bad manners

JJ

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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Trabi601 said:
If challenged, the students all have 'the right to park there'. Absolutely no consideration for residents of the housing estate.
So they shouldn't park there because you want to park there. Got it.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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rofl

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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Rovinghawk said:
Trabi601 said:
If challenged, the students all have 'the right to park there'. Absolutely no consideration for residents of the housing estate.
So they shouldn't park there because you want to park there. Got it.
Where did I say that?

I just think it's inconsiderate and downright rude to park in a housing estate and wander off to college for the day - especially as it makes the place an unsighted slalom course in places.

I wouldn't do it, but then I tend to have a rule that if something is going to cause inconvenience or annoy others, I will do my best to avoid it.

If everyone lived by the rule that you can do anything you like so long as it's not illegal, the world would be unbearable.

Blakewater

4,309 posts

157 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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The Surveyor said:
johnwilliams77 said:
ASONI said:
Might be in the minorty but completely disagree. I live in a nice newish estate and whilst most houses have a drive way for 1 car, there will always be a need to park on the road as well.

I get very annoyed when someone parks in front of my house (unless it's a neighbour obviously in which case it's fine).

It may not be illegal BUT in my opinion it is VERY discourteous. Clearly, the person that lives in that house is going to want to park there.

Don't agree with the guys behaviour at all however, you parked there simply because you preferred it to your normal spot I think? Whereas he wants to park the because it's actually right outside his house.
Troll?
Offering an opinion is not trolling. Personally speaking, it's the OP with as much of a problem as the home owner here. He has a flat with one parking space, but who needs to park two cars. He needs to find somewhere safe to park and whilst he isn't doing anything illegal parking on the highway, he is competing for parking on the street with those who live on the street. When people are competing for parking spaces, the OP shouldn't be surprised that people get competitive.....
It's someone wanting convenience for himself and not caring about convenience for anyone else. He wants to park his car opposite his flat under a streetlight. Meanwhile the guy with the van has to park it somewhere else out of sight where he can't keep an eye on it, where he'll get grief from another neighbour who wants to park where his van is and the problem will snowball around the neighbourhood as people can't park where they live.

The housing estate where I live has a community Facebook page which largely consists of people whinging. One day it's someone complaining how terrible their neighbour is for complaining about their loud music until the early hours of the morning. If you live on a family estate you should apparently expect loud late night parties. The next day they're complaining about the buzzing of a drone someone is flying or, even sillier, the sound of the farmer cutting grass on the field next to the estate when he's actually doing an important job.

People need to stop and look at situations from the perspectives of others sometimes rather than being so precious as to think they can to whatever suits them in the moment while expecting others to constantly compromise their own convenience for them.

Edited by Blakewater on Monday 14th November 23:03

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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Trabi601 said:
I just think it's inconsiderate and downright rude...
In what way?

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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Centurion07 said:
Trabi601 said:
I just think it's inconsiderate and downright rude...
In what way?
If you have to ask why driving deep into a housing estate so you can use it as a car park is inconsiderate, I'll have to assume you adopt the 'it's legal, so I'll do it' attitude. Sadly, too many people live by that rule, the country would be a much nicer place if people thought about the impact of what they were doing before they did it.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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So is there somewhere else for them to park?

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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DoubleD said:
So is there somewhere else for them to park?
Yes. But it involves either paying or walking further.

Or they could use the train, bus, or many of them could potentially walk.

The council put double yellows on the road outside the college and have residents parking on the terraced streets nearby - but it just shifted the parking to another place.

As per another poster - this kind of thing ends up having knock-on effects - means residents end up parking half on the pavement, or parking on bends, next to junctions, etc. - which ultimately could lead to yellow lines being put down, making life very difficult for the people who have paid good money to buy a house in what was a very private and quiet development.

Is it a bit Hyacinth Bucket? - possibly. But when you pay a premium for a house, you don't then expect the development to be invaded by student cars ditched all over the place a few years later.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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At my old college there was not enough room to park and students cars would often fill up the near by roads. It wasn't an issue because everyone had left for work in the morning by the time students got there and the students would leave before the residents came back from work. This all changed when they started enforcing parking passes as magically there were enough spaces for everyone.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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Trabi601 said:
Centurion07 said:
Trabi601 said:
I just think it's inconsiderate and downright rude...
In what way?
If you have to ask why driving deep into a housing estate so you can use it as a car park is inconsiderate, I'll have to assume you adopt the 'it's legal, so I'll do it' attitude. Sadly, too many people live by that rule, the country would be a much nicer place if people thought about the impact of what they were doing before they did it.
What's the impact?

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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Trabi601 said:
DoubleD said:
So is there somewhere else for them to park?
Yes. But it involves either paying or walking further.

Or they could use the train, bus, or many of them could potentially walk.

The council put double yellows on the road outside the college and have residents parking on the terraced streets nearby - but it just shifted the parking to another place.

As per another poster - this kind of thing ends up having knock-on effects - means residents end up parking half on the pavement, or parking on bends, next to junctions, etc. - which ultimately could lead to yellow lines being put down, making life very difficult for the people who have paid good money to buy a house in what was a very private and quiet development.

Is it a bit Hyacinth Bucket? - possibly. But when you pay a premium for a house, you don't then expect the development to be invaded by student cars ditched all over the place a few years later.
So they are stopping residents from parking on the road?

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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I've just concluded that there are some really thoughtless and self centred idiots on this thread.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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Trabi601 said:
I've just concluded that there are some really thoughtless and self centred idiots on this thread.
That's as maybe but you've still yet to answer either of my questions...

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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Trabi601 said:
I've just concluded that there are some really thoughtless and self centred idiots on this thread.
I'm only asking a question