Row with neighbour about parking
Discussion
KevinCamaroSS said:
It appears to me the residents of the housing estate have absolutely no consideration for the students. In a later post you suggest they can park further away, or walk, or pay to park. Under that suggestion can we add 'the house owners could consider moving away'? It is equally as valid.
Most students could not afford several pounds a day to park. Why should they walk further when there is legal parking closer? Just because a NIMBY doesn't like it?
TBH if the students are causing a nuisance then yes. And in my opinion turning a road into a single track slalom is a nuisance. Most students could not afford several pounds a day to park. Why should they walk further when there is legal parking closer? Just because a NIMBY doesn't like it?
I hate this entitled attitude where it is totally acceptable to make your problem somebody else's. You can't afford to park? Oh well just dump it overhanging some poor sods driveway or blocking a junction.
And no it isn't equally valid that the house owners should consider moving away. The road is for driving on not parking on.
budgie smuggler said:
And no it isn't equally valid that the house owners should consider moving away. The road is for driving on not parking on.
In which case the residents should petition to have double yellows put down throughout their estate. Oh, but then that would inconvenience them 
People park outside their houses on our village high street. It causes a lot of congestion, and has contributed to at least one fatal accident. Personally, I'd double yellow the lot and tell them that it's their problem.
tommunster10 said:
johnwilliams77 said:
Hol said:
IF you lived in a street or estate with numerically more cars than on-road parking spaces and any/all empty space are coveted, then the associated comments on here make much more sense.
i.e. poor people 
budgie smuggler said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
It appears to me the residents of the housing estate have absolutely no consideration for the students. In a later post you suggest they can park further away, or walk, or pay to park. Under that suggestion can we add 'the house owners could consider moving away'? It is equally as valid.
Most students could not afford several pounds a day to park. Why should they walk further when there is legal parking closer? Just because a NIMBY doesn't like it?
TBH if the students are causing a nuisance then yes. And in my opinion turning a road into a single track slalom is a nuisance. Most students could not afford several pounds a day to park. Why should they walk further when there is legal parking closer? Just because a NIMBY doesn't like it?
I hate this entitled attitude where it is totally acceptable to make your problem somebody else's. You can't afford to park? Oh well just dump it overhanging some poor sods driveway or blocking a junction.
And no it isn't equally valid that the house owners should consider moving away. The road is for driving on not parking on.
Nobody has mentioned illegal parking such as you mention.
Please refer to the law that states a road is for driving on not parking?
What 'entitled attitude'? We are talking about people carrying out a perfectly normal and legal action. If you go somewhere by car and the car park is full do you:
A) Turn round and go home again?
B) Park legally in a nearby street?
C) Drive a mile or so away and pay for parking despite it being legal to park on a nearby street?
Why is the house owner moving not a valid argument? If something is going on that I do not like (but is entirely legal) I always have the option to move somewhere else. It's a bit like people buying a house near an airport and then complaining about the noise.
KevinCamaroSS said:
How are they causing a nuisance simply parking legally?
As I said, turning the road into a singletrack slalom is in my opinion a nuisance. I'd say it pretty much exactly fits the definition of the word.KevinCamaroSS said:
Nobody has mentioned illegal parking such as you mention.
Just an example of similar selfish parking I have personally had in my own experience. KevinCamaroSS said:
Please refer to the law that states a road is for driving on not parking?
The law is not what I am posting about, it is about not being a selfish and entitled idiot. I can quite legally leave my supermarket trolley completely blocking the aisle, but I'd be a cock face for doing so. Same thing. It's not illegal therefore I can do it, and sod everyone else. KevinCamaroSS said:
What 'entitled attitude'? We are talking about people carrying out a perfectly normal and legal action. If you go somewhere by car and the car park is full do you:
A) Turn round and go home again?
B) Park legally in a nearby street?
C) Drive a mile or so away and pay for parking despite it being legal to park on a nearby street?
That's my point, it shouldn't be 'normal' to park such that it causes a nuisance to those wishing to use the road. A) Turn round and go home again?
B) Park legally in a nearby street?
C) Drive a mile or so away and pay for parking despite it being legal to park on a nearby street?
In your example, probably B, with the proviso that it's not going against what I've said above.
KevinCamaroSS said:
Why is the house owner moving not a valid argument? If something is going on that I do not like (but is entirely legal) I always have the option to move somewhere else. It's a bit like people buying a house near an airport and then complaining about the noise
Because you shouldn't need to move to avoid the ignorant selfish entitled arrogant idiotic actions of some selfish bozos. I have personally moved in that circumstance. I don't feel I should have had to. Edited by budgie smuggler on Tuesday 15th November 17:28
budgie smuggler said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
How are they causing a nuisance simply parking legally?
As I said, turning the road into a singletrack slalom is in my opinion a nuisance. I'd say it pretty much exactly fits the definition of the word.KevinCamaroSS said:
Nobody has mentioned illegal parking such as you mention.
Just an example of similar selfish parking I have personally had in my own experience. KevinCamaroSS said:
Please refer to the law that states a road is for driving on not parking?
The law is not what I am posting about, it is about not being a selfish and entitled idiot. I can quite legally leave my supermarket trolley completely blocking the aisle, but I'd be a cock face for doing so. Same thing. It's not illegal therefore I can do it, and sod everyone else. KevinCamaroSS said:
What 'entitled attitude'? We are talking about people carrying out a perfectly normal and legal action. If you go somewhere by car and the car park is full do you:
A) Turn round and go home again?
B) Park legally in a nearby street?
C) Drive a mile or so away and pay for parking despite it being legal to park on a nearby street?
That's my point, it shouldn't be 'normal' to park such that it causes a nuisance to those wishing to use the road. A) Turn round and go home again?
B) Park legally in a nearby street?
C) Drive a mile or so away and pay for parking despite it being legal to park on a nearby street?
In your example, probably B, with the proviso that it's not going against what I've said above.
KevinCamaroSS said:
Why is the house owner moving not a valid argument? If something is going on that I do not like (but is entirely legal) I always have the option to move somewhere else. It's a bit like people buying a house near an airport and then complaining about the noise
Because you shouldn't need to move to avoid the ignorant selfish entitled arrogant idiotic actions of some selfish bozos. I have personally moved in that circumstance. I don't feel I should have had to. Edited by budgie smuggler on Tuesday 15th November 17:28
I think your final point actually illustrates my point, you did actually move, therefore it is a valid point.
The 'selfish' parking you described is actually illegal, therefore I do not support that.
Vaud said:
I think it can be. One of our neighbours has a big drive, 2 cars. Drive is big enough for 5 cars.
Where do they both park? Outside anyone's house but never outside their house, or on their drive.
The reason? It snowed once and they couldn't get off the drive so they don't like to run the risk. This was in JULY.
Where do they both park? Outside anyone's house but never outside their house, or on their drive.
The reason? It snowed once and they couldn't get off the drive so they don't like to run the risk. This was in JULY.
I seem to recall snow one June in my lifetime but I cannot recall a single flake landing in any July?Parking is one of those things where I really, really struggle to understand how other people see the world. In my road we have two neighbours who are committed to having a ridiculous parking war. One is adamant that he should be able to park right outside his own house, the other is adamant that they should be able to have anywhere between 3-5 cars (including visitors) despite living on a narrow road with no off-street parking other than a classic '60s-style shared block of small garages.
This disagreement somehow has to affect everyone who lives here - between them they cone off sections of public road, leave snotty notes on cars parked in the "wrong" place, and regularly leave cars blocking 2 or 3 garages in the shared block, making it a right pain for anyone who tries to actually use said garage in the vain hope of keeping their car off the road and thus not having to have stupid parking arguments.
Now I'm lucky in that I'm moving on soon anyway and only have to deal with this for a few more months, but I really can't fathom it. How many times can you spend your entire Sunday moving your cars into new passive-aggressive places, or have your dinner interrupted by someone asking you to move your car out of the way of their garage, before you start wondering whether the ultimate position of a bit of steel and glass on wheels is really worth all the hassle?
This disagreement somehow has to affect everyone who lives here - between them they cone off sections of public road, leave snotty notes on cars parked in the "wrong" place, and regularly leave cars blocking 2 or 3 garages in the shared block, making it a right pain for anyone who tries to actually use said garage in the vain hope of keeping their car off the road and thus not having to have stupid parking arguments.
Now I'm lucky in that I'm moving on soon anyway and only have to deal with this for a few more months, but I really can't fathom it. How many times can you spend your entire Sunday moving your cars into new passive-aggressive places, or have your dinner interrupted by someone asking you to move your car out of the way of their garage, before you start wondering whether the ultimate position of a bit of steel and glass on wheels is really worth all the hassle?
PoleDriver said:
Vaud said:
I think it can be. One of our neighbours has a big drive, 2 cars. Drive is big enough for 5 cars.
Where do they both park? Outside anyone's house but never outside their house, or on their drive.
The reason? It snowed once and they couldn't get off the drive so they don't like to run the risk. This was in JULY.
Where do they both park? Outside anyone's house but never outside their house, or on their drive.
The reason? It snowed once and they couldn't get off the drive so they don't like to run the risk. This was in JULY.
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