Row with neighbour about parking
Discussion
PoleDriver said:
You really don't get the whole idea of courtesy or respect for others do you?
As far as you are concerned, as long as it isn't illegal you will do it and f
k everybody else!
There's obviously a lot of people who don't seem to grasp this aspect, surprising. The typical response will be, it's not illegal, no yellow lines, you don't own the road etc etc. As far as you are concerned, as long as it isn't illegal you will do it and f
k everybody else!No s
t Sherlock we know this, that is not what we were saying. anonymous said:
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That suggests that you have more of an issue with this subject that those complaining about others parking outside their house.Outside my house there is a kerb, where anyone is entitled to park. Directly across the road (and slightly round the corner) there is another kerb, which is not directly outside anyone's home. It's on a wider part of the road too. IF someone parked outside my house, I wouldn't say anything (as you point out, they are not breaking any law). But I would think 'why not just park over there?'.
Now take that scenario, but reverse it. I'm looking for a space and see those same options. I take the one which is less likely to cause annoyance. I might be entitled to park in either, but I was brought up better than taking the 'f
k everyone' attitude. As for blocking spaces on the public road with bins, 100% agree with you there.
Two ends of a spectrum here: at one end it's the "park anywhere legal regardless" and then at the other end it's "don't park outside someone's house in any circumstance". I'm sure even you can agree that there is somewhere in the middle.
stinkspanner said:
I used to have a house with space for just one car in the drive, so used to park one on the road outside my house. I know people can park where they like, but it was really annoying when someone parked there. I know it's irrational but there it is!
By the same token I wouldn't leave my car outside one of my neighbours if they regularly used that spot, it's a kind of unwritten agreement among civilised people isn't it?
Exactly, I mean that's the perfect example of exactly what I said in my post - it's nothing to do with whether you own the road or not, just basic common manners. By the same token I wouldn't leave my car outside one of my neighbours if they regularly used that spot, it's a kind of unwritten agreement among civilised people isn't it?
Anyway we are clearly knobs and trolls and having a laugh for having this opinion.
ASONI said:
What a pathetic way to start a reply but hey ho, levels of intellect and all that.
Probably explains why you also didn't notice the bit where I clearly stated that I know it's not illegal, therefore clearly I would also know the road in front of my house did not come with the house and is not on the deeds. You probably didn't understand that bit of my post hence needing to point out the obvious (that I don't own the road. No st?).
I started it that way as that was my first thought reading what you had posted. Funnily enough I still think the same thing.Probably explains why you also didn't notice the bit where I clearly stated that I know it's not illegal, therefore clearly I would also know the road in front of my house did not come with the house and is not on the deeds. You probably didn't understand that bit of my post hence needing to point out the obvious (that I don't own the road. No s
t?). I understand your post.
Do you never question yourself? Why do you think you have any rights over what happens on public property?
It isn't rude for someone to park on a public road regardless of proximity to your property. If you need more parking then maybe you should have bought a property with more parking. If you don't like people parking outside as it ruins your view, then maybe buy a property with more land. Otherwise, it isn't anyone else's problem that you are so weird about them doing what they are legally allowed to do.
ASONI said:
stinkspanner said:
I used to have a house with space for just one car in the drive, so used to park one on the road outside my house. I know people can park where they like, but it was really annoying when someone parked there. I know it's irrational but there it is!
By the same token I wouldn't leave my car outside one of my neighbours if they regularly used that spot, it's a kind of unwritten agreement among civilised people isn't it?
Exactly, I mean that's the perfect example of exactly what I said in my post - it's nothing to do with whether you own the road or not, just basic common manners. By the same token I wouldn't leave my car outside one of my neighbours if they regularly used that spot, it's a kind of unwritten agreement among civilised people isn't it?
Anyway we are clearly knobs and trolls and having a laugh for having this opinion.
And as the person you quoted pointed out it is irrational. You are trying to put some odd moral code onto others to enable your control over land you do not own..... very irrational.
Just because something upsets someone does not mean they are entitled to it.
If you have such an issue with this then suggest to the local council that they put in a residents permit scheme. Then you can pay for the privilege of stopping other parking in "your" space.
anonymous said:
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Now take that scenario, but reverse it. I'm looking for a space and see those same options. I take the one which is less likely to cause annoyance. I might be entitled to park in either, but I was brought up better than taking the 'fk everyone' attitude.
Honestly, it wouldn't even occur to me, I'd just sling the car in the most easily accessible spot at the time. If that happened to be outside your house then so be it. k everyone' attitude. I certainly wouldn't sit there deliberating over whether it was going to inconvenience someone who at the time isn't there and I have no idea how long it will be until they return and I certainly wouldn't accept someone accusing me of being discourteous / disrespectful over it.
I personally think the balance is the other way around, those who are morally outraged (exaggeration
) over someone parking outside their house are the ones in the wrong.
Reminds me of when we had Casualty filming on our street - one of their bods decided to cone off the space in front of my house where I normally park. Sadly for him, I have a 4x4, and just parked on his cones. He came by later asking if I could move so a) he could have his cones back, and b) so one of the execs could park there!
Suffice to say, he was explained the facts of life... and was able to retrieve his cones the next day when I went to work.
Suffice to say, he was explained the facts of life... and was able to retrieve his cones the next day when I went to work.
I've just been reading some of the above responses with disbelief, then it struck me... The 'it's a public road so I can park where I like' brigade are probably townies who never meet/speak with their neighbours whereas the 'let's treat people with respect knowing they will do the same for me' brigade will live in more harmonious rural areas where people actually get on and live/work together!
PoleDriver said:
I've just been reading some of the above responses with disbelief, then it struck me... The 'it's a public road so I can park where I like' brigade are probably townies who never meet/speak with their neighbours whereas the 'let's treat people with respect knowing they will do the same for me' brigade will live in more harmonious rural areas where people actually get on and live/work together!
Well done clouseau!pim said:
Good post.
People don't want to talk to each other anymore.You parked in front of his house why didn't you ask him if he didn't mind?
We all know it is a public road but a bit of civility goes a long way.
I have had to park one of the cars outside a neighbour's house - down the side, rather than in front, where they park one of their cars... I have been and apologised, letting them know it's a temporary situation. Even though they're fine about it, I still feel like a colossal knob for having too many cars and having to park outside their house!
Part of the problem is that we have so many households where there are multiple adults with cars living there. People are territorial and many of us will have experienced the dumb people who feel that a space outside their home is theirs to use exclusively.
He also lives in a flat with just one parking space allocated, again an issue where flats are concerned as even where they also have a garage, no ones uses them.
The OP mentioned that this was due to them having a drive and too many vehicles one of which is a works van. If it is owned by a company a swift phone call might make a difference as no one likes their company being seen as a problem, if it is over a certain size there may also be restrictions on if it can be parked there or not.
Where people make veiled threats you know one of two things will happen, damage to your car or nothing at all. You take a risk with these people as most are all mouth, but for the sake of a few steps extra worth taking the risk.
He also lives in a flat with just one parking space allocated, again an issue where flats are concerned as even where they also have a garage, no ones uses them.
The OP mentioned that this was due to them having a drive and too many vehicles one of which is a works van. If it is owned by a company a swift phone call might make a difference as no one likes their company being seen as a problem, if it is over a certain size there may also be restrictions on if it can be parked there or not.
Where people make veiled threats you know one of two things will happen, damage to your car or nothing at all. You take a risk with these people as most are all mouth, but for the sake of a few steps extra worth taking the risk.
Cyberprog said:
Reminds me of when we had Casualty filming on our street - one of their bods decided to cone off the space in front of my house where I normally park. Sadly for him, I have a 4x4, and just parked on his cones. He came by later asking if I could move so a) he could have his cones back, and b) so one of the execs could park there!
Suffice to say, he was explained the facts of life... and was able to retrieve his cones the next day when I went to work.
Suffice to say, he was explained the facts of life... and was able to retrieve his cones the next day when I went to work.
johnwilliams77 said:
The Surveyor said:
Offering an opinion is not trolling. Personally speaking, it's the OP with as much of a problem as the home owner here. He has a flat with one parking space, but who needs to park two cars. He needs to find somewhere safe to park and whilst he isn't doing anything illegal parking on the highway, he is competing for parking on the street with those who live on the street. When people are competing for parking spaces, the OP shouldn't be surprised that people get competitive.....
Very discourteous to park outside someone's house? You having a fking laugh?!spaximus said:
Part of the problem is that we have so many households where there are multiple adults with cars living there. People are territorial and many of us will have experienced the dumb people who feel that a space outside their home is theirs to use exclusively.
He also lives in a flat with just one parking space allocated, again an issue where flats are concerned as even where they also have a garage, no ones uses them.
The OP mentioned that this was due to them having a drive and too many vehicles one of which is a works van. If it is owned by a company a swift phone call might make a difference as no one likes their company being seen as a problem, if it is over a certain size there may also be restrictions on if it can be parked there or not.
Where people make veiled threats you know one of two things will happen, damage to your car or nothing at all. You take a risk with these people as most are all mouth, but for the sake of a few steps extra worth taking the risk.
So wait...your solution for someone with a flat parking outside someone elses house is...to report the guy parking on his own drive in his company van for bad behaviour for parking on his own drive?He also lives in a flat with just one parking space allocated, again an issue where flats are concerned as even where they also have a garage, no ones uses them.
The OP mentioned that this was due to them having a drive and too many vehicles one of which is a works van. If it is owned by a company a swift phone call might make a difference as no one likes their company being seen as a problem, if it is over a certain size there may also be restrictions on if it can be parked there or not.
Where people make veiled threats you know one of two things will happen, damage to your car or nothing at all. You take a risk with these people as most are all mouth, but for the sake of a few steps extra worth taking the risk.
Are you serious?
What's next are you going to tell the OP to start parking on his neighbours drive as well?
Pathetic.
ASONI said:
Might be in the minorty but completely disagree. I live in a nice newish estate and whilst most houses have a drive way for 1 car, there will always be a need to park on the road as well.
I get very annoyed when someone parks in front of my house (unless it's a neighbour obviously in which case it's fine).
It may not be illegal BUT in my opinion it is VERY discourteous. Clearly, the person that lives in that house is going to want to park there.
Don't agree with the guys behaviour at all however, you parked there simply because you preferred it to your normal spot I think? Whereas he wants to park the because it's actually right outside his house.
You should have bought a house with enough off street parking for your needs then. I get very annoyed when someone parks in front of my house (unless it's a neighbour obviously in which case it's fine).
It may not be illegal BUT in my opinion it is VERY discourteous. Clearly, the person that lives in that house is going to want to park there.
Don't agree with the guys behaviour at all however, you parked there simply because you preferred it to your normal spot I think? Whereas he wants to park the because it's actually right outside his house.
48Valves said:
ASONI said:
Might be in the minorty but completely disagree. I live in a nice newish estate and whilst most houses have a drive way for 1 car, there will always be a need to park on the road as well.
I get very annoyed when someone parks in front of my house (unless it's a neighbour obviously in which case it's fine).
It may not be illegal BUT in my opinion it is VERY discourteous. Clearly, the person that lives in that house is going to want to park there.
Don't agree with the guys behaviour at all however, you parked there simply because you preferred it to your normal spot I think? Whereas he wants to park the because it's actually right outside his house.
You should have bought a house with enough off street parking for your needs then. I get very annoyed when someone parks in front of my house (unless it's a neighbour obviously in which case it's fine).
It may not be illegal BUT in my opinion it is VERY discourteous. Clearly, the person that lives in that house is going to want to park there.
Don't agree with the guys behaviour at all however, you parked there simply because you preferred it to your normal spot I think? Whereas he wants to park the because it's actually right outside his house.
What i dont understand with the majority of posts on this thread is why people who rent or buy a property dont ensure it meets their needs in terms of parking. Why do they then see fit to inconvenience those who paid to meet their needs just so they feel they are one up on them. A drop kerb or space outside ones house should be respected; grow up and dont park outside someones house where inconvenience is caused for a resident who a) might have children that struggle to cycle out from or cross the road b) might struggle to get in/out of their drive due to your lack of respect c) not want a white van man parking outside working early hours/shift work coming and going at stupid o clock or for example d) have a terminal illness, be generally old and just cant be bothered with the Idiots parking vans, skips or cars etc outside their house with no respect or either to get back at them.
Really you lot get a life and live to your means. A camera pointing on your precious car whilst parked "just" where you can see it from the comfort of your girlfriends front window? Registering a cheap motor in your neighbours name to cause them DVLA inconvenience....just get a life and follow the simple rules of life...dont deliberatly go out if your way to annoy somebody.... that if you get to know might just surprise you!
Awaiting the normal responses.
Really you lot get a life and live to your means. A camera pointing on your precious car whilst parked "just" where you can see it from the comfort of your girlfriends front window? Registering a cheap motor in your neighbours name to cause them DVLA inconvenience....just get a life and follow the simple rules of life...dont deliberatly go out if your way to annoy somebody.... that if you get to know might just surprise you!
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