RE: Volvo V70R: PH Carpool

RE: Volvo V70R: PH Carpool

Monday 24th October 2016

Volvo V70R: PH Carpool

Think you like fast Volvos? Not as much as this PHer!



Name: Stephen Sawdy
Car: Volvo V70R P2.5
Owned since: March 2014
Previously owned: 27 other Volvo R models and various Renault 5 Turbos (including a Gordini), Citroen BX 16vs and a Vauxhall Astra GTE 16v

Still making good power after 155,000 miles!
Still making good power after 155,000 miles!
Why I bought it:
"Many reasons! Mainly though watching the 850 estates banging around the touring car circuits in the 1990s with great success; somehow it seemed wrong but they looked so right!

"I think Murray Walker summed it up well: "They all laughed when Volvo said they'd be entering an estate, but they don't think it's funny anymore."

What I wish I'd known:
"Not a lot really as this is my seventh (!) P2R. The automatic is a bit leggy - 110mph in third is possible - but I have a manual (and another two Rs!) so I can always use that instead."

Things I love:
"It is a very understated Q car, produced in very low numbers (for some models, only 80 were imported) so rarity comes as standard. The performance is good but it's easy to tune as well and the V70 also has an almost Germanic build quality and feel to it. All this with a certain Swedish flair and the safety of a Volvo - it ticks all the boxes for me!

Out and about with like-minded Volvo folk
Out and about with like-minded Volvo folk
"Performance-wise they can easily reach 350hp with modest tuning and up to 450 without opening the engine up. As standard it came with the Ohlins designed active chassis and Brembo four-piston calipers on each corner, coupled with the Haldex AWD. Even without any tweaks it can hit 60mph in 5.5 seconds.

"I can't forget the sound either, it's just heavenly! With the three-inch downpipe and cat back exhaust, at full chat it's a five-cylinder orchestra under the bonnet.

"Recently on the dyno after 155,000 miles it made exactly the original claimed power figure - 295hp - which I thought was pretty good for a standard tune car!"

Things I hate:
"The Ohlins active chassis is not the best; I'll be fitting KW coilovers to my other P2R for the track. The cost of maintaining one of these can be high if you buy a dog. 

Costs: 
"I saved this car as it had a split liner, but I had to go through the car as the main dealer service history did leave a lot to be desired. It was more time consuming than mega money, but if you're not going to tackle the work yourself I can see how labour would add up. Fortunately I've learnt a few things along the way!"

Start them young, right Stephen?
Start them young, right Stephen?
Where I've been:
"This year I've been to the Ace Cafe twice, Incarnation at Brighton, two dyno days and a VolvoSportUK show at Beaulieu.

"I was in Gothenburg in October but I didn't drive, it was a factory tour and visit to the Volvo test track."

What next?
"Maybe a Polestar or a T6 XC60 - I'm still a Volvo man at heart!" 

 

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Discussion

MrBarry123

Original Poster:

6,027 posts

121 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Fantastic!

J4CKO

41,532 posts

200 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Great colour combo, can't believe that is ten years old, looks very fresh.

S10GTA

12,678 posts

167 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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6 months in and probably the best car I've ever owned.

jet_noise

5,648 posts

182 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Still up there in the top two of my two favourite all time wheels of all time (with original Alpinas) smile

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Brrilliant colour combo, estate version and post MY2004 - love it cloud9

Scvolvo

17 posts

117 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Thanks guys, yes I'm a bit of a Volvo fan, I have an s60r manual in magic blue also 05 also facelift, with the updated parts and s t5r which I'm just finishing up.


Scvolvo

17 posts

117 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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I have a facebook group "SwedeSportUK" and page "Swedish Car Events" for those interested, we have a good social scene and I'm always trying new things, this year a few of us should be going flat out at bruntingthorpe (sensibly and safely)

rtz62

3,366 posts

155 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Nice car to add to 'Carpool' 👍
I bought one around 2 years ago from a guy I know, it had just over 200k on the clock and a service file / maintenance history several inches thick, which added up to £thousands (including rear driveshaft replacements iirc, and also the haldex unit was rebuilt)
Mine was an auto, and to be fair, despite a rolling road session which suggested all the Swediah elks were still all present and correct under the bonnet, it never felt that quick; in fact ive had several T5 manuals in the past that felt not far off as quick. Nice to see the OPs car also retained all of its galloping elk too.
Build quality of mine was good, and it was impossible to tell it had done over 200k, such was the high standard of the paintwork, interior trim etc.
I subsequently sold it for double what I paid for it some time later, and have often thought of buying another, but trying to find one with a comprehensive maintenance schedule to match mine would probably be impossible...

Scvolvo

17 posts

117 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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I was fortunate to find mine as ex demo main dealer car, which had been kept up afterwards and I've gone through it front to back. Certainly STD autos (6sp's only one to have auto) are nippy GT estates, once tuned they are faster but really you want a tuned manual for real pace.

I describe them as they do everything thing very good but nothing briliantly.

Agent XXX

1,248 posts

106 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Weren't down in Brighton yesterday were you? Saw one parked up on the seafront by the i360.

Same blue.

Scvolvo

17 posts

117 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Agent XXX said:
Weren't down in Brighton yesterday were you? Saw one parked up on the seafront by the i360.

Same blue.
Sorry no, but I live not far from there about 40 miles, not many sonic blues v70r's about.

Richard-390a0

2,255 posts

91 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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That is a gorgeous looking shade of blue & on one of my all time favourites Swedes too! clap

Tuvra

7,921 posts

225 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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I'm usually a fan of dark wheels, for me this is crying out for bright silver wheels though.

Scvolvo

17 posts

117 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Not sure if this will work I'm hopeless with posting pics, here's a better pics of it side on.

It came with dark anthracite, but I prefer the black but what can't be seen is the flake when the light hits the wheels. I changed the lights from silver to black and added the wind deflectors

Scvolvo

17 posts

117 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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One of my old guls manual saloon sold last year.

Edited by Scvolvo on Monday 24th October 16:05

Scvolvo

17 posts

117 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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My manual gul estate, again sold last year

Scvolvo

17 posts

117 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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My current other s60r manual, which I'll pop an Intercooler in 3"dp and cat back and stage 2 map, I doubt I'll go further and that should achieve 350bhp ish, can go 4" rs4 maf and uprated compressor wheel, injectors and your 380-400 bhp area

S10GTA

12,678 posts

167 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Scvolvo said:
(6sp's only one to have auto) are nippy GT estates, once tuned they are faster but really you want a tuned manual for real pace.

I describe them as they do everything thing very good but nothing briliantly.
Don't agree with that, the 5 speed is absolutely fine in mine. I do agree with your comment about them being nippy GT cars rather than the race cars some owners seem to think they are. Saying that I had an impatient clio (197 I think) eager to pass me last night on the way into Southampton. He tried to undertake on a big roundabout and just as he got level I planted my foot and fked off. I then eased up and let him pass to a laugh and a thumbs up. My Mrs wasn't too happy tho smile

Your last line sums it up well, but this is why it works for me. They are an excellent compromise car for those of us who cannot justify two cars.

Edited by S10GTA on Monday 24th October 15:51

Scvolvo

17 posts

117 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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S10GTA said:
Don't agree with that, the 5 speed is absolutely fine in mine. I do agree with your comment about them being nippy GT cars rather than the race cars some owners seem to think they are. Saying that I had an impatient clio (197 I think) eager to pass me last night on the way into Southampton. He tried to undertake on a big roundabout and just as he got level I planted my foot and fked off. I then eased up and let him pass to a laugh and a thumbs up. My Mrs wasn't too happy tho smile

Your last line sums it up well, but this is why it works for me. They do everything well, but nothing brilliantly. They are an excellent compromise car for those of us who cannot justify two cars.
Glad your using it well and surprising a few hot hatches! Your welcome to pop along to one of the meets I'm based in waterlooville.

They're good whilst working ok and servicing the box is crucial, I've seen some with high miles but I've seen too many 5sp's fail and early in there life, volvo only used the 5sp auto for 2 years on the R's, where as the 6sp is still in production and used in the polestars.

5sp auto is also has strangled torque in 1st and 2nd, the 6sp isn't limited (although I still feel it hold back a bit), makes about 1.5 secs to 60 difference, which is handy. A couple other differences the 6sp has the pretty much bullet proof angle gear, mines on original collar at 155k, plus the haldex is uprated and give less trouble, but that's cheap and easy to fix these days.



Edited by Scvolvo on Monday 24th October 16:03

S10GTA

12,678 posts

167 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Scvolvo said:
S10GTA said:
Don't agree with that, the 5 speed is absolutely fine in mine. I do agree with your comment about them being nippy GT cars rather than the race cars some owners seem to think they are. Saying that I had an impatient clio (197 I think) eager to pass me last night on the way into Southampton. He tried to undertake on a big roundabout and just as he got level I planted my foot and fked off. I then eased up and let him pass to a laugh and a thumbs up. My Mrs wasn't too happy tho smile

Your last line sums it up well, but this is why it works for me. They do everything well, but nothing brilliantly. They are an excellent compromise car for those of us who cannot justify two cars.
Glad your using it well and surprising a few hot hatches! Your welcome to pop along to one of the meets I'm based in waterlooville.

They're good whilst working ok and servicing the box is crucial, I've seen some with high miles but I've seen too many 5sp's fail and early in there life, volvo only used the 5sp auto for 2 years on the R's, where as the 6sp is still in production and used in the polestars.

5sp auto is also has strangled torque in 1st and 2nd, the 6sp isn't limited (although I still feel it hold back a bit), makes about 1.5 secs to 60 difference, which is handy. A couple other differences the 6sp has the pretty much bullet proof angle gear, mines on original collar at 155k, plus the haldex is uprated and give less trouble, but that's cheap and easy to fix these days.
To be fair both the gearbox and AWD have been rebuilt in the last few years!