Avon and Somerset Police using redlight camera for speeding
Discussion
singlecoil said:
TooMany2cvs said:
singlecoil said:
TooMany2cvs said:
singlecoil said:
...and 3) threads like this prove that cameras are not always visible.
Point of order, Sir.The camera this thread's about was very visible, and had been very visible for at least seven years.
It's just that the numpty in question thought it was just red light...
I live in Taunton where this lovely camera is and I ( and everyone I've asked in the last couple days) also thought it was just for red light jumping.
A couple chaps from work, few years back, had red light tickets from it.
If it is for speed as well, then it will make lots of money, that's for sure!
A couple chaps from work, few years back, had red light tickets from it.
If it is for speed as well, then it will make lots of money, that's for sure!
WD39 said:
This is the default criticism for PHers who highlight speeding, in any siuation. Although there are some on this site who have a lead right foot, the majority have a light touch, I'm sure.
Brake want people to slow down bottom line!Making these cameras purpose clearer and showing speed camera signs would help in this instance.
That is assuming the end game in reduction in speeding and accidents.
If it have the limit clear but nothing else and maximum prosecutions, then they are doing that well I would say.
oceanview said:
I live in Taunton where this lovely camera is and I ( and everyone I've asked in the last couple days) also thought it was just for red light jumping.
A couple chaps from work, few years back, had red light tickets from it.
If it is for speed as well, then it will make lots of money, that's for sure!
Same here and I am from taunton, I checked with A&S Police and they also claim its a 'redlight' camera. It a closely guarded secret.A couple chaps from work, few years back, had red light tickets from it.
If it is for speed as well, then it will make lots of money, that's for sure!
Its two lanes and after alot of two 40mph, so to get someone going 37 is no uncommon mistake.
This web site has been going for years and covers all different camera types
http://www.speedcamerasuk.com/speedcurb.htm
I bookmarked it and find it hard to believe a vaguely inquisitive driver wouldn't attempt a simple google for 'speed camera types' or similar if they weren't sure what they did differently to the bog standard Gatso
http://www.speedcamerasuk.com/speedcurb.htm
I bookmarked it and find it hard to believe a vaguely inquisitive driver wouldn't attempt a simple google for 'speed camera types' or similar if they weren't sure what they did differently to the bog standard Gatso
surveyor_101 said:
WD39 said:
This is the default criticism for PHers who highlight speeding, in any siuation. Although there are some on this site who have a lead right foot, the majority have a light touch, I'm sure.
Brake want people to slow down bottom line!Making these cameras purpose clearer and showing speed camera signs would help in this instance.
That is assuming the end game in reduction in speeding and accidents.
If it have the limit clear but nothing else and maximum prosecutions, then they are doing that well I would say.
Are you suggesting that you would observe the limit if it was signed clearly?
What do you want the authorities to do? Maybe put a plate under the speed limit sign that says "We really mean it, 30 maximum please!"
drf765 said:
I'm missing your logic.
Are you suggesting that you would observe the limit if it was signed clearly?
What do you want the authorities to do? Maybe put a plate under the speed limit sign that says "We really mean it, 30 maximum please!"
It's not me who got caught, my logic is if the end game is slowing people down quietly switching a r slight camera without changing the signage or website does not slow people down, it's catches people speeding.Are you suggesting that you would observe the limit if it was signed clearly?
What do you want the authorities to do? Maybe put a plate under the speed limit sign that says "We really mean it, 30 maximum please!"
surveyor_101 said:
It's not me who got caught, my logic is if the end game is slowing people down quietly switching a r slight camera without changing the signage or website does not slow people down, it's catches people speeding.
Surely having points on one's license deters future speeding, especially with the impact on insurance premiums and threat of being banned.surveyor_101 said:
drf765 said:
I'm missing your logic.
Are you suggesting that you would observe the limit if it was signed clearly?
What do you want the authorities to do? Maybe put a plate under the speed limit sign that says "We really mean it, 30 maximum please!"
It's not me who got caught, my logic is if the end game is slowing people down quietly switching a r slight camera without changing the signage or website does not slow people down, it's catches people speeding.Are you suggesting that you would observe the limit if it was signed clearly?
What do you want the authorities to do? Maybe put a plate under the speed limit sign that says "We really mean it, 30 maximum please!"
If more unannounced enforcement was used and this was made known then less people would remain confident enough to manipulate the enforcement.
drf765 said:
surveyor_101 said:
drf765 said:
I'm missing your logic.
Are you suggesting that you would observe the limit if it was signed clearly?
What do you want the authorities to do? Maybe put a plate under the speed limit sign that says "We really mean it, 30 maximum please!"
It's not me who got caught, my logic is if the end game is slowing people down quietly switching a r slight camera without changing the signage or website does not slow people down, it's catches people speeding.Are you suggesting that you would observe the limit if it was signed clearly?
What do you want the authorities to do? Maybe put a plate under the speed limit sign that says "We really mean it, 30 maximum please!"
If more unannounced enforcement was used and this was made known then less people would remain confident enough to manipulate the enforcement.
And, with more and more limits being set to below the speed which most drivers would choose if left to their own devices, that can only get worse.
At least visible cameras give those who make such mistakes a fighting chance to rectify their error before it ends up costing them.
Capitalising on human error in such a fashion is questionable practice, at best.
Most would call it heavy-handed - some might even call it slimy.
Pete317 said:
Capitalising on human error in such a fashion is questionable practice, at best.
Most would call it heavy-handed - some might even call it slimy.
I know a quite a few people who have been caught speeding by cameras, including myself, and not one of them has ever described the practice of using them as heavy handed let alone slimy.Most would call it heavy-handed - some might even call it slimy.
So most would call your post above childishly silly - some might even call it beyond ridiculous.
RobinOakapple said:
Pete317 said:
Capitalising on human error in such a fashion is questionable practice, at best.
Most would call it heavy-handed - some might even call it slimy.
I know a quite a few people who have been caught speeding by cameras, including myself, and not one of them has ever described the practice of using them as heavy handed let alone slimy.Most would call it heavy-handed - some might even call it slimy.
So most would call your post above childishly silly - some might even call it beyond ridiculous.
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