Insurance Claim and undeclared SAC

Insurance Claim and undeclared SAC

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Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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rsv gone! said:
He has probably put it into a comparison site or sought a quote somewhere.
Quite possibly.

Are people really not aware that the Admiral Group own one such site? (confused.com)
Where do you think any data you enter might end up?

bad company

18,573 posts

266 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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Red Devil said:
Quite possibly.

Are people really not aware that the Admiral Group own one such site? (confused.com)
Where do you think any data you enter might end up?
If the op (or op's friend) has not actually insured with the Admiral group it may be best to ask them and confused.com to remove all of their details from their database. I do this with firms who send me marketing mail.

RB5Bird

502 posts

195 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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What is the point of doing the SAC if you still get penalised on your insurance renewal? You might as well take the points and not be lectured at for a day.

I thought the idea was that you had one chance to see the error of your ways and avoid all the crap that went with points on your licence for 5 (declarable) years.

If this is not the case, how long would you have to declare the SAC for?

TwigtheWonderkid

43,347 posts

150 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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RB5Bird said:
What is the point of doing the SAC if you still get penalised on your insurance renewal?
1. You don't get points, so it doesn't count towards totting up.
2. Hardly any insurers charge extra for it, or even ask.
3. If you go in with an attitude that you might actually learn something and not "I'm going to be lectured to", then you might actually learn something.


RB5Bird

502 posts

195 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
3. If you go in with an attitude that you might actually learn something and not "I'm going to be lectured to", then you might actually learn something.
I was actually wondering if you could just go along and do one. Might be interesting.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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The only thing you're likely to learn is how shocking other "motorist's" knowledge is. :lol:

dirkgently

2,160 posts

231 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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Centurion07 said:
The only thing you're likely to learn is how shocking other "motorist's" knowledge is. :lol:
This is true.

davidn

1,028 posts

259 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Must admit I learn't a couple of things but the main gist of the course was if you reduce your speed you'll save fuel, 30 in 3rd is best and drive in a lower gear to increase engine noise which will make you think you're going faster.

But they're worth attending to hear people reasons for speeding and excuses for being caught.

For example, a lady say late 50's claimed it wasn't her fault for speeding, she was caught on the way home from the garage after a service and claimed her car was unexpectedly faster than when she took it in!

_dobbo_

14,374 posts

248 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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davidn said:
the main gist of the course was if you reduce your speed you'll save fuel
Yep same thing I was told, which is pretty obvious really.

Then this


davidn said:
30 in 3rd is best and drive in a lower gear to increase engine noise which will make you think you're going faster
And also burn double the fuel compared to 30 in 5th gear.... So no, I won't be doing that one!


Sheepshanks

32,750 posts

119 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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covboy said:
zedstar said:
there was no drop down to select it under convictions
Attending a SAC is not a conviction
Neither is any sort of fixed penalty. Only a court can convict you.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,347 posts

150 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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RB5Bird said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
3. If you go in with an attitude that you might actually learn something and not "I'm going to be lectured to", then you might actually learn something.
I was actually wondering if you could just go along and do one. Might be interesting.
You and I clearly don't belong on PH. PH is for driving gods who know everything there is to know already and have nothing left to learn.

Sheepshanks

32,750 posts

119 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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RB5Bird said:
I was actually wondering if you could just go along and do one. Might be interesting.
It would be a bit annoying if you did that and subsequently got nabbed for speeding and couldn't do an SAC as you'd already been on one!

There's enough written about the courses to know what's involved. The overwhelming theme is that it's useful to learn how completely clueless most other drivers are.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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WillG said:
Why does he need to ring them? If they won't insure him, just go somewhere else. Not being offered renewal is not the same as having a policy cancelled.

Suspect there's more to it though.....
This.

When i was 28 and driving a 328i several insurers wouldn't quote me because they would not insure anyone under 30 on a car like that.

This is not the same as having a policy cancelled.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

179 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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I did one in 2013 and didn't declare it and my admiral claim went through 2015.

None of their business, only claims and data held by the DVLA, I will be leaving admiral in 2017 as fed up with this crap. Also their renewals every year are laughable.

I don't enter it into any insurance searches though as they all share info.




Edited by surveyor_101 on Friday 25th November 13:29

BertBert

19,035 posts

211 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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I don't understand the angst regarding Admiral and SACs. It's just a question like where you live, what car you have. As far as I am concerned they can ask anything they want (that's legal) and make their pricing decisions accordingly. If I don't like the result and can get better elsewhere, then I have that choice.

Bert

Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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RB5Bird said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
3. If you go in with an attitude that you might actually learn something and not "I'm going to be lectured to", then you might actually learn something.
I was actually wondering if you could just go along and do one. Might be interesting.
AFAIK they are only offered at the discretion of the police/SCP as an alternative form of disposal.
The providers have enough 'customers' without trying to squeeze in folk who are merely seeking to satisfy their curiosity. wink

TwigtheWonderkid

43,347 posts

150 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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BertBert said:
I don't understand the angst regarding Admiral and SACs. It's just a question like where you live, what car you have. As far as I am concerned they can ask anything they want (that's legal) and make their pricing decisions accordingly. If I don't like the result and can get better elsewhere, then I have that choice.

Bert
Spot on. As long as the final premium is competitive, and the Ts & Cs are suitable, my insurer can charge me extra for being bald or left handed for all I care.

I wouldn't insure with Admiral group of companies, because their policy wording is crap. Not because they might charge for SACs.

BertBert

19,035 posts

211 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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OT but what are the things you don't like?
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I wouldn't insure with Admiral group of companies, because their policy wording is crap. Not because they might charge for SACs.