Adult threatening a child with violence

Adult threatening a child with violence

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solo2

Original Poster:

861 posts

147 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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What potential crime is this and how seriously will the Police take it?

An adult male threatened to beat up an 11 year old boy for reasons which are incorrect but nonetheless he made the threat irrelevant of his (incorrect) reasons why.

I'm dithering on whether speaking to the police could make this worse but I've no way of speaking to this adult myself. Child is understandably in fear.



Edited by solo2 on Friday 2nd December 21:35

Jasandjules

69,861 posts

229 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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1. Are you sure the child is telling the truth?
2. Why did the adult do this?

21TonyK

11,513 posts

209 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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Not a legal opinion but one from a safeguarding position. That's a serious problem. Definitely a Police issue even if just to make it very clear their actions are way off the mark and not something they should be even close to.

akirk

5,385 posts

114 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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If in a safeguarded context (e.g. School / sports club) etc then your first point of contact is their safeguarding officer... if not available then police...
If unsure, there is an NSPCC helpline, or phone 101 for advice... regardless of reasoning, that is not on...

Brads67

3,199 posts

98 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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Context ?


Did the 11 yr old threaten him with a knife for example ?

BlueHave

4,640 posts

108 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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I remember many years ago when I was a younger nipper say under 10. Playing on the green and some kid smacked another one in the face.

He went home and got his Dad. He pulled up a few minutes later and they both got out, the Dad held the kid and lets his son have a dig.

Then they both got in the car and left.

I think all the Dad got a Police caution. That was back in the 90's though.

poo at Paul's

14,142 posts

175 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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solo2 said:
What potential crime is this and how seriously will the Police take it?

An adult male threatened to beat up an 11 year old boy for reasons which are incorrect but nonetheless he made the threat irrelevant of his (incorrect) reasons why.

I'm dithering on whether speaking to the police could make this worse but I've not way of speaking to this adult myself. Child is understandably in fear.
Was the 11 year old an unaccompanied migrant?

pim

2,344 posts

124 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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In the sixties when I grew up getting smacked was what we where used to.It doesn't make it right but it happened.

I got punched in the face when I was 12 by a neighbour.No daddy to run he was at sea.

I lived with it.


InitialDave

11,877 posts

119 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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Context required.

Poor innocent child being threatened by a monster, or stty pre-teen learning that all true authority is derived from the ability to enforce it?

blearyeyedboy

6,280 posts

179 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Dear solo2,

I've cut down your original post to the bits you need to make a decision.

solo2 said:
An adult male threatened to beat up an 11 year old boy for reasons which are incorrect.
solo2 said:
Child is understandably in fear.
The adult made a threat of physical violence that wasn't justified and the child is in fear as a result. If true, it is a form of child abuse and is very much a matter for the police. If the adult can justify himself, he should be able to do so to a police officer.

Ring them today.



bobtail4x4

3,714 posts

109 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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without the full story how can anyone comment?

what is this, mumsnet?

blearyeyedboy

6,280 posts

179 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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bobtail4x4 said:
without the full story how can anyone comment?

what is this, mumsnet?
The OP asked for opinions. I gave mine.

No one on the internet would have a full story. This is why we have police forces to investigate instead of people being judged by the interfaceweb.

If holding my opinion makes me "mumsnet", then I'd rather be called that than ignore something like this. It's the OP's call but I think that real men stand up for little ones, not threaten them.

If you disagree, come up with something better than "mumsnet" as a reason.

TerryThomas

1,228 posts

91 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Calm down. I don't think Bobtail was directing his comment solely at you.

paulwirral

3,124 posts

135 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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It's possible the child in fear has just been taught a valuable lesson in life , and hopefully will grow up a better person for it .
I was threatened with a thrashing by a copper when I was about 13 , i had misbehaved , I told my parents and was informed if I did it again I would be taken around to the coppers house by my father so the threat could be carried out ! I behaved from then on .

Mandalore

4,208 posts

113 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Knowing exactly what feral kids and how shoddy some parents are like in installing manners and values in their sprogs, I always find it hard to takes stories like these at face value - especially when the original post is loaded in the manner that this one is.

I have seen kids kick balls repeatedly at cars, lean bikes on bodywork and even
walk over cars to help climb a wall to retrieve something from private property.

So, I remain a cynic, as life has proven that to be the statistical accurate position.

Jasandjules

69,861 posts

229 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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As yet the OP has neglected to explain what happened so I suspect the cynics are correct.

solo2

Original Poster:

861 posts

147 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Jasandjules said:
As yet the OP has neglected to explain what happened so I suspect the cynics are correct.
Calm down.

Not neglected, just has been busy at work earning a living rather than sitting on my arse claiming benefits or being a powerfully built company Director who can spend all day surfing, lol!


InitialDave said:
Context required.

Poor innocent child being threatened by a monster, or stty pre-teen learning that all true authority is derived from the ability to enforce it?
Brads67 said:
Context ?
Did the 11 yr old threaten him with a knife for example ?
swerni said:
What did the little st do ?
For context he was playing tag at school with girl. The game got 'enthusiastic' but all fine. School knew about it, nothing to deal with. Other child's mother aware and knows boy wouldn't hurt her child and says its a non story having finally been able to speak to her hours after posting this.

What is not a non story is another child's Uncle heard untrue rumours and threaten boy whilst boy was attempting to make his way home from school minding his own business. The same boy that escorted this Uncles Niece home only days ago when no relative bothered to turn up from school to collect her to make sure she got home safely.

As such boy is now incredibly scared of Uncle due to him actually being a decent kid.

Brads67

3,199 posts

98 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Why are you unable to speak directly with this man ?

BugLebowski

1,033 posts

116 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Enthusiastic tag? confused

Riley Blue

20,942 posts

226 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Perhaps he 'trumped' her?