Position of Bus Stop markings moving over time
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Hi
Does anyone know how it is determined precisely where the bus stop paint markings on a road are designated? i.e. does the local authority have a particular position where it had agreement (under whatever stature or whatever) to put it? I suspect there are no fixed points relating to it, (even though we all have to abide by strict planning laws!)
Reason I ask is because I have a very busy bus stop outside my flat. I have noticed that over the last 10 or 12 years the forward line of the bus stop has crept forward so now it half-overlaps my property whereas it didn't originally. I have googled but all the info is about the size of the lettering etc I can't see anything about the strict position of the markings. It's annoying as the incredible noise of the f
kers means I would like to have it pushed back to where it was originally to give me a modicum of relief.
Fancy some knowledge before I get into it with the ever-unhelpful borough (Brent).
cheers if anyone knows anything.
Does anyone know how it is determined precisely where the bus stop paint markings on a road are designated? i.e. does the local authority have a particular position where it had agreement (under whatever stature or whatever) to put it? I suspect there are no fixed points relating to it, (even though we all have to abide by strict planning laws!)
Reason I ask is because I have a very busy bus stop outside my flat. I have noticed that over the last 10 or 12 years the forward line of the bus stop has crept forward so now it half-overlaps my property whereas it didn't originally. I have googled but all the info is about the size of the lettering etc I can't see anything about the strict position of the markings. It's annoying as the incredible noise of the f
kers means I would like to have it pushed back to where it was originally to give me a modicum of relief.Fancy some knowledge before I get into it with the ever-unhelpful borough (Brent).
cheers if anyone knows anything.
Presumably there's a bus stop post or shelter there so how can the lines have moved forward without being at odds with the positioning of the post/shelter? 
Unless you're talking about having moved 50ft+ up the road then I don't see how moving the lines a few feet is going to make any difference whatsoever to the noise. Speak to your council's highways department, they'll put you through to the right department that deals with it but I highly doubt you'll achieve anything. First world problem thread would perhaps be a more appropriate place for your post imho.
Unless you're talking about having moved 50ft+ up the road then I don't see how moving the lines a few feet is going to make any difference whatsoever to the noise. Speak to your council's highways department, they'll put you through to the right department that deals with it but I highly doubt you'll achieve anything. First world problem thread would perhaps be a more appropriate place for your post imho.
True. But nevertheless it would help a bit. The buses thing and road layout is mental as befitting local councils anyway, as the one opposite creates untold traffic.Anyway I would of thought there must be a principle that applies. Otherwise they could simply move it wherever they want without any kind of rules which would be a bit odd.
Anyway now I've had a bit more of a look I've seen why they've done it - it was to add a (completely unnecessary) KEEP CLEAR on the entrance to a gated estate further up. To keep the bus cage as whatever the minimum is (12m or something) they've moved it forward. The bus stop flag has remained in the same place. I'm only writing all this as someone in the future may be searching for the same topic.
I realise the council won't move it back, but I may have a go. In fact I may investigate how one can get a bus stop moved altogether! It really needs a proper road redesign (for other reasons not shown here) but obviously that would entail some logic on behalf of the highways department which does not exist.
Now
Then
KEEP CLEAR that's been added shunting the bus stop cage forward.
CoolHands said:
It's annoying as the incredible noise of the fkers
kers
I'm sorry but having seen the pics now you are just being completely ridiculous. You seriously think that moving the bus box 6' to where it was is going to make any difference?
Also, the first pic proves it's a non-issue as despite the box creep the bus is still positioned at the actual bus stop post which was where the original box was
.Providing access to that lovely estate that resembles a multi-storey car park has probably gone through planning so the bus stop markings would probably have featured in that.
It seems reasonable and sensible to move the bus stop markings in those circumstances. I seriously doubt that your property would have figured in the provision of that entrance being kept clear. If it did then I would think that the council would have concluded it would have no impact upon you whatsoever; I'm inclined to agree.
Unless the smog in that area has an incredible attenuating effect upon sound then the difference in sound level created by the small movement of the bus position will not be discernible by the human ear.
Try rightmove.co.uk
It seems reasonable and sensible to move the bus stop markings in those circumstances. I seriously doubt that your property would have figured in the provision of that entrance being kept clear. If it did then I would think that the council would have concluded it would have no impact upon you whatsoever; I'm inclined to agree.
Unless the smog in that area has an incredible attenuating effect upon sound then the difference in sound level created by the small movement of the bus position will not be discernible by the human ear.
Try rightmove.co.uk
As has been noted, the bus STILL stops at the flag. They do this in my high street, leaving the arse end of the bus sticking out and blocking the road, even though there is another 10 ft of the box they could use.
Why don't the idiots who design these stops put the flag right at the end of the box?
Why don't the idiots who design these stops put the flag right at the end of the box?
jpringle819 said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
Was the bus stop there when you moved in?
I think that is the point the OP is trying to make, when he first moved in the bus stopped further back.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff