Private mobile speed units? How about private jamming units?

Private mobile speed units? How about private jamming units?

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DocBrown

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1 posts

156 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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So I drove past a brand spanking new mobile speed camera today.

Fortunately I'm very good speed wise when I'm not 'making progress' so it was a non-issue for myself. However I did notice that this van was not in fact an offical police vehicle.

As it turns out it is just another one of the increasing ammount of privately contracted mobile speed units.

So, my mind goes a'wanderin' about the legal and shady/un-sporting aspects of these things.

Now I have seen a video on youtube of a guy confronting one of these private units where once confronted the van promtly drives off after giving the guy a letter which explains that the company had been given permission by the police to help enforce traffic laws.

However, the interesting thing is that as these units are private ventures, they are not staffed by police personel.

So my question is:
What would stop someone from setting up a tripod a few metres away from one of these vehicles with jamming equipment to jam the radar/lidar system of the private mobile unit?

As there are no police present in the vehicle surely this would not be obstruction of justice or wasting police time?

Also, as the equipment is not mounted to a vehicle and not used indiscriminately, surely the police themselves could not come after you for that. As I know people have been jailed in the past for having jammer systems mounted to their vehicle.


Just a thought, what do you guys think about the subject/idea?

tapereel

1,860 posts

116 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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DocBrown said:
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As it turns out it is just another one of the increasing ammount of privately contracted mobile speed units.

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So my question is:
What would stop someone from setting up a tripod a few metres away from one of these vehicles with jamming equipment to jam the radar/lidar system of the private mobile unit?

As there are no police present in the vehicle surely this would not be obstruction of justice or wasting police time?

Also, as the equipment is not mounted to a vehicle and not used indiscriminately, surely the police themselves could not come after you for that. As I know people have been jailed in the past for having jammer systems mounted to their vehicle.


Just a thought, what do you guys think about the subject/idea?
I have never heard or met with a "privately contracted mobile speed unit"

Speed enforcement is operated by the police in the U.K. With a small number of community speed watch operations also operated.

While there may not be a police constable in the vans there sometimes is. They are usually staffed by police staff.

If you set up a jamming unit near the van and the police staff work out what it is you can expect that member of police staff to call the police control room and request a constable to come and investigate. If the constable gathers sufficient evidence you could expect to accompany those who get locked up for operating jammers. Not all do but even whe you don't it would remain a painful excercise.

Good luck with your idea.

Geekman

2,863 posts

146 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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If they could prove you'd set out to block the laser on the speed camera van you'd be in rather a lot of trouble, regardless of whether the operator is a civilian or not.

If you happen to drive a van or truck though, they can't do anything about you choosing to take your break directly behind the van, provided you are legally parked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyoDNKkeCkE

covboy

2,575 posts

174 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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Geekman said:
If they could prove you'd set out to block the laser on the speed camera van you'd be in rather a lot of trouble, regardless of whether the operator is a civilian or not.

If you happen to drive a van or truck though, they can't do anything about you choosing to take your break directly behind the van, provided you are legally parked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyoDNKkeCkE
But tis guy's wrong on so many levels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czAcK839Su0

TroubledSoul

4,593 posts

194 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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tapereel said:
I have never heard or met with a "privately contracted mobile speed unit"

Speed enforcement is operated by the police in the U.K. With a small number of community speed watch operations also operated.

While there may not be a police constable in the vans there sometimes is. They are usually staffed by police staff.

If you set up a jamming unit near the van and the police staff work out what it is you can expect that member of police staff to call the police control room and request a constable to come and investigate. If the constable gathers sufficient evidence you could expect to accompany those who get locked up for operating jammers. Not all do but even whe you don't it would remain a painful excercise.

Good luck with your idea.
He'll be fine then because there's never, ever a constable available when you ring them laugh

tapereel

1,860 posts

116 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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TroubledSoul said:
tapereel said:
I have never heard or met with a "privately contracted mobile speed unit"

Speed enforcement is operated by the police in the U.K. With a small number of community speed watch operations also operated.

While there may not be a police constable in the vans there sometimes is. They are usually staffed by police staff.

If you set up a jamming unit near the van and the police staff work out what it is you can expect that member of police staff to call the police control room and request a constable to come and investigate. If the constable gathers sufficient evidence you could expect to accompany those who get locked up for operating jammers. Not all do but even whe you don't it would remain a painful excercise.

Good luck with your idea.
He'll be fine then because there's never, ever a constable available when you ring them laugh
Perhaps not the same when called by a colleague.

TroubledSoul

4,593 posts

194 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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Funny that......

hora

37,110 posts

211 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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If you operate a jamming unit you are peverting the course of justice.

singlecoil

33,523 posts

246 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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DocBrown said:
Fortunately I'm very good speed wise when I'm not 'making progress'
So you don't speed except when you are speeding scratchchin

Excellent lurking BTW.

Riley Blue

20,948 posts

226 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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As a public service, I wonder if the OP could advise where this private mobile speed unit was so that we can all look out for it and react accordingly?

tapereel

1,860 posts

116 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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TroubledSoul said:
tapereel said:
I have never heard or met with a "privately contracted mobile speed unit"

Speed enforcement is operated by the police in the U.K. With a small number of community speed watch operations also operated.

While there may not be a police constable in the vans there sometimes is. They are usually staffed by police staff.

If you set up a jamming unit near the van and the police staff work out what it is you can expect that member of police staff to call the police control room and request a constable to come and investigate. If the constable gathers sufficient evidence you could expect to accompany those who get locked up for operating jammers. Not all do but even whe you don't it would remain a painful excercise.

Good luck with your idea.
He'll be fine then because there's never, ever a constable available when you ring them laugh
Perhaps not the same when called by a colleague.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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tapereel said:
Speed enforcement is operated by the police in the U.K.
This makes a mockery of the "It's not us who deserves the bad PR, it's the SCP" excuse I've heard several times.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

109 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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Rovinghawk said:
This makes a mockery of the "It's not us who deserves the bad PR, it's the SCP" excuse I've heard several times.
Smoke and mirrors.
The whole speed enforcement industry is politics at its finest.