Stopping on a crossing
Discussion
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5156976,-3.22448...
In the link above you can see the crossing is on the edge of the road before you enter the roundabout. I thought you were not allowed to stop on or block a crossing but in order to get on the roundabout you don't have much choice.
In the link above you can see the crossing is on the edge of the road before you enter the roundabout. I thought you were not allowed to stop on or block a crossing but in order to get on the roundabout you don't have much choice.
Occam's Razor said:
That looks like an utterly moronic place to put a pedestrian crossing.
The crossings were further back but as people are lazy they wont walk up the road cross and walk back down they just cross over at the junction. To solve this the council moved all of the crossings up to the edge of the roundabout.not ideal, but at low speeds and a reasonably wide roundabout I imagine it is quite easy to wait the other side of the crossing and still have sufficient time to get across and onto the roundabout... it is no different to a waiting space for cyclists...
more of an issue is the extra confusion from needing to watch out for pedestrians as well as traffic on the roundabout I could see that leading to issues
more of an issue is the extra confusion from needing to watch out for pedestrians as well as traffic on the roundabout I could see that leading to issues
TooMany2cvs said:
PAULJ5555 said:
but in order to get on the roundabout you don't have much choice.
Sightlines look just fine from behind the crossing. No reason to pull forward and block it if the r'a'b isn't clear to pull onto.You have to be on the edge to pull out if there is a gap or be on the edge hoping that someone will let you out when its gridlocked.
It's not ideal positioning but relocating it would require shifting the lighting standard and curtailing, or even removing, the layby. The only other alternative would be to get rid of it altogether which is not conducive to pedestrian safety. Having to start from a bit further back due in order not to obstruct the crossing shouldn't be a problem for goatee wearing company director PHers. Rev it to 4k and dump the clutch. 
Red Devil said:
shouldn't be a problem for goatee wearing company director PHers. Rev it to 4k and dump the clutch.
If only!!!!!!Most of the peasants/commoners don't have goatee's and as a result stop on the crossing. So whats the punishment for stopping on this crossing?
Edited by PAULJ5555 on Tuesday 29th November 10:17
I do think it is daft having it there.
'Most' drivers will be looking to the right, see a gap and go for it, not really paying attention whether there is a pedestrian to the left or not. I think it will be more luck than good observation as to why there hasn't been a lot of accidents.
'Most' drivers will be looking to the right, see a gap and go for it, not really paying attention whether there is a pedestrian to the left or not. I think it will be more luck than good observation as to why there hasn't been a lot of accidents.
That is bloody stupid. Traffic coming off a roundabout is going to be looking for the exit, as opposed to pedestrians who are waiting to cross. You may as well put the ped crossing through the middle of the roundabout.
They have junctions like this in Spain, nothing it thought out and the drivers are sodding hopeless, not a brain cell among them. To make matters worse, the pedestrians wouldn't even stop to check the traffic was slowing to give way, they'd walk straight out, eyes glued to their phone or staring at the far side. Stupid stupid place.
They have junctions like this in Spain, nothing it thought out and the drivers are sodding hopeless, not a brain cell among them. To make matters worse, the pedestrians wouldn't even stop to check the traffic was slowing to give way, they'd walk straight out, eyes glued to their phone or staring at the far side. Stupid stupid place.
Its the same in the village there is a crossing smack bang outside of the newsagents. People step out of the shop and continue across the road, you have very little time to stop or find yourself slamming on the brakes and everyone looks at you like your a hooligan.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5121252,-3.21859...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5121252,-3.21859...
Edited by PAULJ5555 on Tuesday 29th November 12:41
matchmaker said:
Those give way markings are different shapes/sizes on all 3 roads.PAULJ5555 said:
Does anyone know if you can get a fine / points for stopping on the crossing in the first link?
It is not an offence to stop on the crossing if you are prevented from proceeding by circumstances beyond your control or it is necessary to stop to avoid injury or damage to persons or property.Cat
matchmaker said:
And again - two for the price of one. Rotate for the second.https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@56.1352651,-3.83584...
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