Accelerating whilst being overtaken
Poll: Accelerating whilst being overtaken
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Discussion
Audicab said:
I've had this a few times. We live in a 30 limit village with 60 limits all around. There is a lad who has overtaken me a couple of times in an old 1.0 Peugeot in the village. Fine, a bit of a t
ttish move but hey ho. He then only does about 40 on the NSL road and slows down to about 35 on the bends and there is only really one overtaking place.
I just don't get his mentality or thought process.
There is none, thick as pig sttish move but hey ho. He then only does about 40 on the NSL road and slows down to about 35 on the bends and there is only really one overtaking place.I just don't get his mentality or thought process.
tWJNB said:
2 every time.
Unless you have self-worth issues you should have nothing to prove. You're in a what I assume is a decent car he's in a van. Van driver is likely to be suffering a major chip on his shoulder & thus feels a need to prove he is superior after all. Making it VERY obvious you are happy for him to get on his way denies him all sense of success or superiority. Such drivers should be beneath your contempt, so grow up & ignore 'em.
Consider also that at this time of year the roads are more cluttered than usual with vans delivering on-line orders & drivers may well be part-timers, uncaring about long-term job security & very likely hailing from other countries & thus possibly without licence & little or no knowledge of our regulations.
I agree with your first three sentences but not with the rest of what you've said. In my experience, most van drivers just want to get on with the job as quickly as possible. They don't tend to drive based on ego and their main motive for getting past the car in front is to get to where they are going as quickly as possible, not to willy wave or show the next driver what a god they are. Yes, some van drivers can be dangerously focussed but in my experience they are not as dangerous or as annoying as some prat who's happy to dawdle along until someone tries to pass him in an 'inferior' vehicle at which point he'll 'floor it' to save face. Anyone bases their driving on how it looks to others is the worst kind of driver on the road.Unless you have self-worth issues you should have nothing to prove. You're in a what I assume is a decent car he's in a van. Van driver is likely to be suffering a major chip on his shoulder & thus feels a need to prove he is superior after all. Making it VERY obvious you are happy for him to get on his way denies him all sense of success or superiority. Such drivers should be beneath your contempt, so grow up & ignore 'em.
Consider also that at this time of year the roads are more cluttered than usual with vans delivering on-line orders & drivers may well be part-timers, uncaring about long-term job security & very likely hailing from other countries & thus possibly without licence & little or no knowledge of our regulations.
brrapp said:
...some prat who's happy to dawdle along until someone tries to pass him in an 'inferior' vehicle at which point he'll 'floor it' to save face.
If this is your interpretation of my actions then I am afraid you are mistaken. I would never do such a thing.If, however, you are making a generalised statement then, yes, I agree with you.
I think the key points here are:
1. O.P. had already started accelerating when WVM pulled out so I agree with the logic that to abort could be dangerously unpredictable.
2. The road ahead was clear so plenty of scope for WVM to pull back in as O.P. disappears over the horizon.
Conclusion: Boot it.
1. O.P. had already started accelerating when WVM pulled out so I agree with the logic that to abort could be dangerously unpredictable.
2. The road ahead was clear so plenty of scope for WVM to pull back in as O.P. disappears over the horizon.
Conclusion: Boot it.
I've had similar three times, every time it's been going out of my village the opposite way to normal and early in the morning. 2 different cars, so the repeat offender clearly didn't learn anything.
The village is 30, goes to 60, but there's a traffic island at the NSL change point and then the two carrigeways are split by a cars width of hatched road that leads to a right turn refuge on a long sweeping bend. As a result it isn't possible to attempt an overtake until the NSL change point and you can't see that there isn't a car waiting to turn right up ahead.
Now it's 6am and I've just got in the car, the traffic behind is irrelevant, so it's not entirely unexpected that I'm not really paying attention behind me. I know IAM would argue defensive driving means I should know what's going on behind, but noone's perfect.
Hit the NSL sign, floor it in 3rd as usual, 5s later there's some chump in the hatching alongside and crawling past - I only have 98bhp to deploy - WTF. Really difficult to call whether to slow down as if they abort and pull in there'd be a right mess and the right turn is approaching quickly. I'm already flat out as normal, so no options there either.
In the end I've just let them carry on crawling past, but it's pretty dangerous all round. The one that did it twice, a couple of weeks apart was some barry'd up Corsa with viper stripes and some young blonde driving it, both times she got past the cars we inevitably caught up on a dipped bend with no visibility, the second time a truck nearly got her, so close I'd already slammed on to make sure I wasn't caught up in the debris field!
After this dip there's a roundabout that's two lanes in, two out, everyone queues in the left lane, including this car, so after the roundabout I'm 5 cars in front. Bizarrre.
Anyway, interesting thread, and still no idea what you're 'supposed' to do, just do whatever's safe and stay ahead if you can.
The village is 30, goes to 60, but there's a traffic island at the NSL change point and then the two carrigeways are split by a cars width of hatched road that leads to a right turn refuge on a long sweeping bend. As a result it isn't possible to attempt an overtake until the NSL change point and you can't see that there isn't a car waiting to turn right up ahead.
Now it's 6am and I've just got in the car, the traffic behind is irrelevant, so it's not entirely unexpected that I'm not really paying attention behind me. I know IAM would argue defensive driving means I should know what's going on behind, but noone's perfect.
Hit the NSL sign, floor it in 3rd as usual, 5s later there's some chump in the hatching alongside and crawling past - I only have 98bhp to deploy - WTF. Really difficult to call whether to slow down as if they abort and pull in there'd be a right mess and the right turn is approaching quickly. I'm already flat out as normal, so no options there either.
In the end I've just let them carry on crawling past, but it's pretty dangerous all round. The one that did it twice, a couple of weeks apart was some barry'd up Corsa with viper stripes and some young blonde driving it, both times she got past the cars we inevitably caught up on a dipped bend with no visibility, the second time a truck nearly got her, so close I'd already slammed on to make sure I wasn't caught up in the debris field!
After this dip there's a roundabout that's two lanes in, two out, everyone queues in the left lane, including this car, so after the roundabout I'm 5 cars in front. Bizarrre.
Anyway, interesting thread, and still no idea what you're 'supposed' to do, just do whatever's safe and stay ahead if you can.
paulrockliffe said:
Hit the NSL sign, floor it in 3rd as usual, 5s later there's some chump in the hatching alongside and crawling past - I only have 98bhp to deploy - WTF. Really difficult to call whether to slow down as if they abort and pull in there'd be a right mess and the right turn is approaching quickly. I'm already flat out as normal, so no options there either.
Of course there are options. Take your foot of the accelerator. You don't have to brake. You will increase the rate at which he passes your car without making an erratic move.
I also hail from dorset,
Rubber-Ducky said:
brrapp said:
...some prat who's happy to dawdle along until someone tries to pass him in an 'inferior' vehicle at which point he'll 'floor it' to save face.
If this is your interpretation of my actions then I am afraid you are mistaken. I would never do such a thing.If, however, you are making a generalised statement then, yes, I agree with you.
I love driving and from time to time do drive fairly quickly on cars and bikes, but at other times I can be driving all sorts of vehicles including a 15mph tractor, various vans and trailers and the occasional 56mph limited LGV.
When you drive a slower vehicle you do tend to try to 'optimise performance' and make the best of a bad lot. This involves trying to maintain momentum where at all possible, overtaking as early as possible and making the most use of any overtaking opportunity available. Overtaking is not done just for fun or to show off, but to maintain momentum where possible and in doing so, keeping your time spent driving as efficient as possible. I very much doubt whether most van drivers give much of a toss about what other road users are driving or doing as long as they aren't slowing them down unnecessarily.
brrapp said:
Rubber-Ducky said:
brrapp said:
...some prat who's happy to dawdle along until someone tries to pass him in an 'inferior' vehicle at which point he'll 'floor it' to save face.
If this is your interpretation of my actions then I am afraid you are mistaken. I would never do such a thing.If, however, you are making a generalised statement then, yes, I agree with you.
I love driving and from time to time do drive fairly quickly on cars and bikes, but at other times I can be driving all sorts of vehicles including a 15mph tractor, various vans and trailers and the occasional 56mph limited LGV.
When you drive a slower vehicle you do tend to try to 'optimise performance' and make the best of a bad lot. This involves trying to maintain momentum where at all possible, overtaking as early as possible and making the most use of any overtaking opportunity available. Overtaking is not done just for fun or to show off, but to maintain momentum where possible and in doing so, keeping your time spent driving as efficient as possible. I very much doubt whether most van drivers give much of a toss about what other road users are driving or doing as long as they aren't slowing them down unnecessarily.
I suppose a simple yet superior mantra & one I try very hard to adhere to is:
NEVER EVER GET DRAWN INTO COMPETING WITH OTHER DRIVERS. You will find that Plod fully endorses this.
But remember this is because I have NEVER felt the need to prove anything to anybody about anything - I nice place to be I assure you.
NEVER EVER GET DRAWN INTO COMPETING WITH OTHER DRIVERS. You will find that Plod fully endorses this.
But remember this is because I have NEVER felt the need to prove anything to anybody about anything - I nice place to be I assure you.
WJNB said:
I suppose a simple yet superior mantra & one I try very hard to adhere to is:
NEVER EVER GET DRAWN INTO COMPETING WITH OTHER DRIVERS. You will find that Plod fully endorses this.
But remember this is because I have NEVER felt the need to prove anything to anybody about anything - I nice place to be I assure you.
This doesn't make sense to me. If, as you state, you have NEVER felt the need to prove anything to anybody then adhering to your simple mantra should be effortless for you. I can't understand why you have to "try very hard"...NEVER EVER GET DRAWN INTO COMPETING WITH OTHER DRIVERS. You will find that Plod fully endorses this.
But remember this is because I have NEVER felt the need to prove anything to anybody about anything - I nice place to be I assure you.
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