personalisedvehicleregistration.service.gov.uk

[ukkid35]

I've just received notification that my new registration 'can be put on vehicle'

But can I still drive the car with the original registration plates, for today, for the rest of the week?

When exactly does it become illegal to drive the car with the original registration?

Thanks in anticipation

[turbobloke]

When I used the DVLA online registration retention and transfer webpages several weeks ago, one of the advisories which appeared on-screen after completing the process mentioned putting the replacement number on the car 'as soon as possible' but that wasn't defined any further iirc. Also mentioned was notifying the insurers asap but I appreciate that this wasn't part of your question.

[ukkid35]

turbobloke said:

Also mentioned was notifying the insurers asap but I appreciate that this wasn't part of your question.

No it wasn't, but that was because I didn't even consider that - thank you.

The transfer was done for me by the seller, what I've received is the notification from the aforementioned agency that it's complete.

Edited by ukkid35 on Wednesday 30th November 22:16

[indigostr]

Online is almost instantly completed, you will get a confirmation. You need to inform your insurance provider and change the plates on your car before driving it on public roads. You'll probably need to call your insuance co as reg changes not always possible online, Aviva anyway.
Road fund will be also be updated to new reg automatically.
If you click onto ECP or similar sites your new reg will bring up your car details. Really surprising how quick all this happens now.

[timbo999]

You can do reg changes on-line with Aviva, I've done it several times - its not intuitive admittedly, but you can do it.

There is no reason you can't drive the car whilst still on the old plate... but it is best to co-ordinate the physical plate swap with the update to the insurance.

[Red Devil]

Get the plates made then as I see it you have two options:

1. Immediately notify your insurer and wait for the Certificate before affixing the plates.
2. Wait for the new V5C to arrive then proceed as above.

The insurance is the most important consideration in order to avoid a potential ANPR ping.
I used option 2 to be sure all the planets were in alignment.

It was also before the VED disc was abolished so I don't know how that works now.
Back then I was sent a new one (and amended MOT Cert) as part of the process.

With everything now held as bits and bytes in Swansea it's a different ball game.
If anyone knows the current playbook it would be useful for future reference.

[timbo999]

You don't need to wait for the V5 before changing the plates... although it will arrive in a few days in my experience.

[V8FGO]

I thought plate makers ask to see the V5c, or at least they did will me a couple of years ago. Has this changed now ?.

[ukkid35]

indigostr said:

Online is almost instantly completed, you will get a confirmation. You need to inform your insurance provider and change the plates on your car before driving it on public roads.

But the email from gov.uk came through in the middle of the day when I could have been driving my car down the M1.

So my question is - would I have been driving illegally?

If not, at what point would I be driving illegally if I did not fit new plates?

What is the grace period - Minutes, Days, or Weeks (or None)?

Or is it all down to discretion?

[indigostr]

V8FGO said:

I thought plate makers ask to see the V5c, or at least they did will me a couple of years ago. Has this changed now ?.

I get mine made up by an online show plate company,no V5c needed. My plates are made up legal, complete with suppliers name at bottom as everything is an option.
Halfords and local motorfactors have asked for v5c even when seeing me park car outside displaying same reg as requested!


DVLA have tried to make the process easier and instant, not the few weeks process it used to be. Reg change,insurance informed and plate change can all be done in under half an hour now.

[Red Devil]

indigostr said:

I get mine made up by an online show plate company,no V5c needed. My plates are made up legal, complete with suppliers name at bottom as everything is an option.
Halfords and local motorfactors have asked for v5c even when seeing me park car outside displaying same reg as requested!

The latter have requested evidence for the following reasons:

Only outlets registered on the DVLA number plates R.N.P.S system can legally supply number plates.
Any registered supplier which does not ask for identity and entitlement documentation is breaking the law.

Legit online suppliers will comply with the above: example here.
If yours didn't then either they are not registered or, if they are, committed an offence.
Either way that's their problem not yours.

The supplier details alone are not sufficient btw. Do your plates also have the required British Standards identifier?

[mybrainhurts]

Red Devil said:

I used option 2 to be sure all the planets were in alignment.

Please stand still, I'm trying to shoot you.

[Steve57]

Just last week i removed a plate, altho as the car wasnt being used by myself until it was collected i just left it on the original plates on the drive untill the weekend when i swapped them, the only thing that mentions a time scale is the eV948 certificate to get plates made. This is only valid for 3 days from the transfer date (all done instantly online) so i guess they want you to get plates made within those three days and then installed.

[drf765]

ukkid35 said:

indigostr said:

Online is almost instantly completed, you will get a confirmation. You need to inform your insurance provider and change the plates on your car before driving it on public roads.

But the email from gov.uk came through in the middle of the day when I could have been driving my car down the M1.

So my question is - would I have been driving illegally?

If not, at what point would I be driving illegally if I did not fit new plates?

What is the grace period - Minutes, Days, or Weeks (or None)?

Or is it all down to discretion?

You would not be driving it illegally no.

The message says change as soon as possible. Would that suggest you stop and change it? No that's not reasonable.

The old number is still traceable to your car and there is no problem.

I changed one a couple of months ago and got the same message but when I read it all it said exactly what was and was not reasonable in changing it.

You can continue to use your car with the old number but don't be doing that in a months time coz that ain't reasonable.

Get the new plate as soon as you can and not in an emergency and put it on, simples.

Tell your insurer when you have the new number affixed.

[FGB]

indigostr said:

You need to inform your insurance provider and change the plates on your car before driving it on public roads.

Last time I did a transfer I went down to the DVLA office and asked they guy what ASAP really meant - and he said just that - As soon as is practical for you.

[ukkid35]

drf765 said:

The message says change as soon as possible.

Thanks, that is helpful. I think the notification email content may have changed recently, because this is what I received, in full:

personalisedvehicleregistration.service.gov.uk said:

Application successful

Retention certificate number
xxxx
Transaction Completed
2016-11-30 11:24:00
Your transaction ID is:
xxxx

xxxx
Can now be put on the vehicle

About this transaction

Registered Keeper:

MR xxxx

New documentation:

The following will be sent to the registered keeper:

A new V5C registration certificate (logbook) displaying the replacement registration number

[scorcher]

ukkid35 said:

turbobloke said:

Also mentioned was notifying the insurers asap but I appreciate that this wasn't part of your question.

No it wasn't, but that was because I didn't even consider that - thank you.

Edited by ukkid35 on Wednesday 30th November 22:16

And if its on finance, let the finance co. know too!

[Red Devil]

mybrainhurts said:

Red Devil said:

I used option 2 to be sure all the planets were in alignment.

Please stand still, I'm trying to shoot you.

No thanks. Drink less or get a telescopic sight.

[liquidfox]

V8FGO said:

I thought plate makers ask to see the V5c, or at least they did will me a couple of years ago. Has this changed now ?.

The V778 entitlement document you get when you purchase a new plate is valid for getting plates made, you obviously receive this before the V5

[ukkid35]

turbobloke said:

Also mentioned was notifying the insurers asap but I appreciate that this wasn't part of your question.

Called Hagerty and they sent me a confirmation within ten minutes, and I didn't even get charged. I was bracing myself for a £20 admin charge at least.