Side swiped coming out the tunnel - they didnt stop

Side swiped coming out the tunnel - they didnt stop

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Moaningroadie

264 posts

192 months

Monday 5th December 2016
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DSLiverpool said:
  • Something I havent thought of.
Maybe the alcohol has finally left his system

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Monday 5th December 2016
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DSLiverpool said:
Update update update

Tunnel police just called saying a chap has called them saying he clipped a car and stopped on the flyover waiting but I didnt stop (I stopped at the end of the flyover for 10 minutes)

Now up till him calling the cops he had got away with it so reasons are:

  • He had a weekend to sweat on not reporting an incident
  • He thinks my rear nearside crabbed into his car and can claim
  • He has 9 people with whiplash in his fiesta
  • Something I havent thought of.
The Tunnel cops will allow us to exchange details for insurance purposes but not to contact each other directly (!)

Anyone care to guess how this plays out ? I have to drop in tomorrow to fill out a form.
Interesting question around the definition of "as soon as is reasonably practicable"...

tumble dryer

2,016 posts

127 months

Monday 5th December 2016
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Moaningroadie said:
DSLiverpool said:
  • Something I havent thought of.
Maybe the alcohol has finally left his system
Or, he's seen/had pointed out, this thread??

pork911

7,139 posts

183 months

Monday 5th December 2016
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He must have been drunk to stop on that flyover.

Pot Bellied Fool

2,131 posts

237 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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I wouldn't have stopped there but it's entirely conceivable that he would, given youth, inexperience, not really knowing what to do etc. Given that he's now approached the Tunnel Police I'd say that it'd be a hard job to do him for failing to report even given the delay.

How would Insurance view the incident anyway? Is it cut & dried enough or would they push for knock-for-knock anyway, still leaving you out of pocket.

<makes mental note to a) get dashcam b) avoid Silver Outbacks around the tunnels>

I did think you were going to say it was the Wallasey tunnel though, the approach to that at rush hour is like the Wild West & I'm surprised there's not more incidents.

BTW, what do the Tunnel Police ACTUALLY do? They have some nice motors and I read an article a while back that a previous 'Chief Constable' (ok, not the right term given their size obviously but you know what I mean) had pushed for them to be given PPE & training for batons, CS etc (which is only fair, they are Police after all & could encounter or be sucked into situations) but other than acting as traffic protection for breakdown recovery and supervising the cash collections from the tolls, what do they actually do?

I'm being curious rather than having a poke - I always wondered - and now I'm tunnelling daily, I wonder even more. And how do the officers see themselves, do many go on to join MerseyPol for example or is it a role that they drift into after retiring from a HO force?

DSLiverpool

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14,742 posts

202 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Chaps I have his name and address do I visit or report to insurance ? It's officially with cops now so on a database I assume.
Happy for him to pay and avoid insurance but is that correct.

CaptainCosworth

5,873 posts

93 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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DSLiverpool said:
Chaps I have his name and address do I visit or report to insurance ? It's officially with cops now so on a database I assume.
Happy for him to pay and avoid insurance but is that correct.
Sounds like he's trying to set it up to pass the blame on by claiming you didn't stop. You could go round and visit armed with frozen sausages, etc, etc, but if they don't hold their hands up you're looking at 50-50.

I'd contact insurance so they are aware, especially if the other party then attempts to claim off you, but if the estimates posted on here are correct then unfortunately it will probably be cheaper/less hassle in the long run to suck it up and sort yourself frown

maccboy

633 posts

138 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Regarding frozen sausages, I've often wondered if it's preferable/easier to use the narrow ones or use the bigger ones and whittle a taper into the end . . .

DSLiverpool

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14,742 posts

202 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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I am on CCTV as stopped on the main road at the time of the crash and the duration of my stop.

Do I go round ?

TooLateForAName

4,747 posts

184 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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DSLiverpool said:
Update update update

Tunnel police just called saying a chap has called them saying he clipped a car and stopped on the flyover waiting but I didnt stop (I stopped at the end of the flyover for 10 minutes)
So he admitted clipping you ?

Pot Bellied Fool

2,131 posts

237 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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DSLiverpool said:
Do I go round ?
You don't know if he's a normal guy, a thug, a chancer, dim, intelligent etc etc. Going round could be twisted against you & paint you as an aggressor. And yet, could also be the most reasonable thing to do.

Perhaps rather than knocking, a polite note/letter to his address. "Hi - I'm the guy whose car you hit. Would you prefer to go via insurance or pay for the repairs directly? Please give me a call & let me know. FYI, the quotes I've had so far average out at £123.45"

CaptainCosworth

5,873 posts

93 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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DSLiverpool said:
I am on CCTV as stopped on the main road at the time of the crash and the duration of my stop.

Do I go round ?
Best case scenario = they offer to pay full cost of repairs
Worst case scenario = they're a 6' 6'' 230lb company director type who doesn't take kindly to being disturbed
or something in between...

In all seriousness, if the actual collision wasn't caught on camera or you have no witnesses then unless they hold their hands up you're going to struggle. By all means go round as you never know, but don't expect too much.

DSLiverpool

Original Poster:

14,742 posts

202 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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I am going to try and get his number and call ..... why not, nothing to lose. If it goes as a 50 / 50 then I will fight it tooth and nail as he hit my rear door whilst both travelling in the same direction!

drdel

430 posts

128 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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As the damage to the OP's car is on the nearside the other driver could claim he was cut-off by an 'overtaking' car. Could be messy unless CCTV is definitive.

DSLiverpool

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14,742 posts

202 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Agree with that but we have Cctv showing me in booth 2 and him in 7 or 8 with myself directly in front of the flyover ramp.
Arguably we both need the flyover exit and he had to traverse the lanes.

DSLiverpool

Original Poster:

14,742 posts

202 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Spoke to a nice chap after calling directory enquiries, he said he didnt see me (silver car / dark night) and hadnt reported it to the insurance. I said I have 2 quotes of £450 and £480 and would accept half of that amount if he wanted to settle and pay for the damage.
He is thinking about it.

BlueHave

4,650 posts

108 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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DSLiverpool said:
Spoke to a nice chap after calling directory enquiries, he said he didnt see me (silver car / dark night) and hadnt reported it to the insurance. I said I have 2 quotes of £450 and £480 and would accept half of that amount if he wanted to settle and pay for the damage.
He is thinking about it.
Everyone's a nice chap when they get caught. Doesn't excuse the fact he left the scene of an accident and failed to notify

DSLiverpool

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14,742 posts

202 months

Monday 19th December 2016
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Well after 2 weeks of faffing about he wants to go via insurance grr how do I explain not reporting it to them till tomorrow ?
It's £400 damage to my car and £450 to his

AyBee

10,533 posts

202 months

Tuesday 20th December 2016
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Just explain what happened? You aren't the first and you won't be the last.

DSLiverpool

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14,742 posts

202 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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I didn't do anything and still have the dent but out of the blue my insurance have asked for a diagram to apportion blame on the guy who hit me. Could this happen as he went through his insurance ?

I've done this



Edited by DSLiverpool on Thursday 23 February 10:52