114 mph selfie video....then...........
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tommunster10 said:
Yes hence why i said hes a bell end, but I was responding to a poster i should of quoted it, sorry.
Surely you can only dream of speeding in a 2CV?
He can go one hell of a lot faster than you over a ploughed field with a basket of eggs on the front seat. And still have boiled eggs and soldiers for breakfast.Surely you can only dream of speeding in a 2CV?
tommunster10 said:
......Surely you can only dream of speeding in a 2CV?
2CV top speeds:1948: 40 mph (Capable of breaking 20/30 mph speed limits)
1955: 50 mph (Capable of breaking 20/30/40 mph speed limits)
1962: 52 mph (Capable of breaking 20/30/40/50 mph speed limits)
1970: 62 mph (Capable of breaking 20/30/40/50/60 mph/National speed limits on single carriage roads)
1981: 71 mph (Capable of breaking 20/30/40/50/60 mph/National speed limits on single carriage roads, dual carriageways and motorways).
The 2CV may take time to get up to speed, but they are all more than capable of breaking certain speed limits.
It seems a bit strange how you get all up your own arse about people speeding, and then try to make a joke about people speeding in a 2CV!
4rephill said:
tommunster10 said:
......Surely you can only dream of speeding in a 2CV?
2CV top speeds:1948: 40 mph (Capable of breaking 20/30 mph speed limits)
1955: 50 mph (Capable of breaking 20/30/40 mph speed limits)
1962: 52 mph (Capable of breaking 20/30/40/50 mph speed limits)
1970: 62 mph (Capable of breaking 20/30/40/50/60 mph/National speed limits on single carriage roads)
1981: 71 mph (Capable of breaking 20/30/40/50/60 mph/National speed limits on single carriage roads, dual carriageways and motorways).
The 2CV may take time to get up to speed, but they are all more than capable of breaking certain speed limits.
It seems a bit strange how you get all up your own arse about people speeding, and then try to make a joke about people speeding in a 2CV!
I have driven at over 120 mph and been in a car driven at 140 mph, both on public roads which in places had speed limits much less than that
So I am a reckless feckless idiot?
No
It was on the autobahn.
The driving all around me was excellent and at no point did I feel unsafe.
The speed limits here are principally a political decision that is only loosely connected to road safety. Motorways are already the safest roads that we have so surely the resources we have should focus on pursuing the elements of driving that cause the most problems, perhaps raising the minimum age to 21 and having much more severe penalties for drink driving, such as immediately imprisonment.
And for the record Mrs Billsinlaw was done for speeding in a Reliant Robin. Rumours that Jasper Carrot was watching are completely untrue.
So I am a reckless feckless idiot?
No
It was on the autobahn.
The driving all around me was excellent and at no point did I feel unsafe.
The speed limits here are principally a political decision that is only loosely connected to road safety. Motorways are already the safest roads that we have so surely the resources we have should focus on pursuing the elements of driving that cause the most problems, perhaps raising the minimum age to 21 and having much more severe penalties for drink driving, such as immediately imprisonment.
And for the record Mrs Billsinlaw was done for speeding in a Reliant Robin. Rumours that Jasper Carrot was watching are completely untrue.
Billsnemesis said:
I have driven at over 120 mph and been in a car driven at 140 mph, both on public roads which in places had speed limits much less than that
So I am a reckless feckless idiot?
No
It was on the autobahn.
The driving all around me was excellent and at no point did I feel unsafe.
The speed limits here are principally a political decision that is only loosely connected to road safety. Motorways are already the safest roads that we have...
While, in Germany, not only are not all autobahns derestricted - by a long way - but even those stretches have an advisory limit of 130kpm, with speeds above that automatically contributing to allocation of fault in collisions. And, rather more importantly in this context, they're much more dangerous than UK motorways. The motorway injury stats are about 50% higher for Germany than the UK.So I am a reckless feckless idiot?
No
It was on the autobahn.
The driving all around me was excellent and at no point did I feel unsafe.
The speed limits here are principally a political decision that is only loosely connected to road safety. Motorways are already the safest roads that we have...
TooMany2cvs said:
Billsnemesis said:
I have driven at over 120 mph and been in a car driven at 140 mph, both on public roads which in places had speed limits much less than that
So I am a reckless feckless idiot?
No
It was on the autobahn.
The driving all around me was excellent and at no point did I feel unsafe.
The speed limits here are principally a political decision that is only loosely connected to road safety. Motorways are already the safest roads that we have...
While, in Germany, not only are not all autobahns derestricted - by a long way - but even those stretches have an advisory limit of 130kpm, with speeds above that automatically contributing to allocation of fault in collisions. And, rather more importantly in this context, they're much more dangerous than UK motorways. The motorway injury stats are about 50% higher for Germany than the UK.So I am a reckless feckless idiot?
No
It was on the autobahn.
The driving all around me was excellent and at no point did I feel unsafe.
The speed limits here are principally a political decision that is only loosely connected to road safety. Motorways are already the safest roads that we have...
In addition to the above
I've driven on the autobahn quite a bit too.
The driving (or lane discipline) of others wasn't always good & the decision not to have limits on some autobahn is also a political decision.
TooMany2cvs said:
4rephill said:
tommunster10 said:
......Surely you can only dream of speeding in a 2CV?
2CV top speeds:1948: 40 mph (Capable of breaking 20/30 mph speed limits)
1955: 50 mph (Capable of breaking 20/30/40 mph speed limits)
1962: 52 mph (Capable of breaking 20/30/40/50 mph speed limits)
1970: 62 mph (Capable of breaking 20/30/40/50/60 mph/National speed limits on single carriage roads)
1981: 71 mph (Capable of breaking 20/30/40/50/60 mph/National speed limits on single carriage roads, dual carriageways and motorways).
The 2CV may take time to get up to speed, but they are all more than capable of breaking certain speed limits.
It seems a bit strange how you get all up your own arse about people speeding, and then try to make a joke about people speeding in a 2CV!
vonhosen said:
Billsnemesis
In addition to the above
I've driven on the autobahn quite a bit too.
The driving (or lane discipline) of others wasn't always good & the decision not to have limits on some autobahn is also a political decision.
I've towed a trailer at 120mph on the Autobahn. And the Autoroute. And the M20 briefly to get a Full House.In addition to the above
I've driven on the autobahn quite a bit too.
The driving (or lane discipline) of others wasn't always good & the decision not to have limits on some autobahn is also a political decision.
So what?
cmaguire said:
vonhosen said:
Billsnemesis
In addition to the above
I've driven on the autobahn quite a bit too.
The driving (or lane discipline) of others wasn't always good & the decision not to have limits on some autobahn is also a political decision.
I've towed a trailer at 120mph on the Autobahn. And the Autoroute. And the M20 briefly to get a Full House.In addition to the above
I've driven on the autobahn quite a bit too.
The driving (or lane discipline) of others wasn't always good & the decision not to have limits on some autobahn is also a political decision.
So what?
My point is that the decision to have no speed limit on some of the autobahn is as much a political decision as is the decision on the limits we have here.
That's what.
vonhosen said:
My point is that my experience of it not being all excellent driving on the autobahn is just as real/valid as his experience of it all being excellent on the autobahn.
My point is that the decision to have no speed limit on some of the autobahn is as much a political decision as is the decision on the limits we have here.
That's what.
I think the overall standard of the driving and the state of the major roads is not all that dissimilar to here (the minor roads are way better), the expectation of speed just means their lane discipline and observation is better.My point is that the decision to have no speed limit on some of the autobahn is as much a political decision as is the decision on the limits we have here.
That's what.
The French Autoroutes are better all round in my opinion.
The fact there isn't the same expectation of speed here is no mitigation for poor observation and lane discipline though.
cmaguire said:
vonhosen said:
My point is that my experience of it not being all excellent driving on the autobahn is just as real/valid as his experience of it all being excellent on the autobahn.
My point is that the decision to have no speed limit on some of the autobahn is as much a political decision as is the decision on the limits we have here.
That's what.
I think the overall standard of the driving and the state of the major roads is not all that dissimilar to here (the minor roads are way better), the expectation of speed just means their lane discipline and observation is better.My point is that the decision to have no speed limit on some of the autobahn is as much a political decision as is the decision on the limits we have here.
That's what.
The French Autoroutes are better all round in my opinion.
The fact there isn't the same expectation of speed here is no mitigation for poor observation and lane discipline though.
I experience far less problems on those scores in this country because I'm not looking to make the same levels of progress.
vonhosen said:
When I've used them I've been moving very briskly. I've experienced people failing to observe properly (i.e. pulling out on me when there has been a fairly large differential) & I've had people lane hogging in front of me too.
I experience far less problems on those scores in this country because I'm not looking to make the same levels of progress.
The lane hogging will always be subjective I expect. Do you approaching at 140mph have precedence over the driver doing 90mph and passing a few vehicles doing 80mph? I would say no, and accept I have to wait. The daftly slow overtakes that often barely qualify as overtakes are ignorant whatever the country and whatever the speed.I experience far less problems on those scores in this country because I'm not looking to make the same levels of progress.
And again, if doing high speeds (say 120+ in this instance) there will be instances where other drivers will pull out in front of you requiring you to brake. You can prepare for this to a point but again, at what level of braking do you deem the driver in front to be a w
k@r? Meat and gravy and all that.cmaguire said:
vonhosen said:
When I've used them I've been moving very briskly. I've experienced people failing to observe properly (i.e. pulling out on me when there has been a fairly large differential) & I've had people lane hogging in front of me too.
I experience far less problems on those scores in this country because I'm not looking to make the same levels of progress.
The lane hogging will always be subjective I expect. Do you approaching at 140mph have precedence over the driver doing 90mph and passing a few vehicles doing 80mph? I would say no, and accept I have to wait. The daftly slow overtakes that often barely qualify as overtakes are ignorant whatever the country and whatever the speed.I experience far less problems on those scores in this country because I'm not looking to make the same levels of progress.
And again, if doing high speeds (say 120+ in this instance) there will be instances where other drivers will pull out in front of you requiring you to brake. You can prepare for this to a point but again, at what level of braking do you deem the driver in front to be a w
k@r? Meat and gravy and all that.You shouldn't pull into the path of another vehicle that is going to then have to alter it's course or speed significantly as a result of you doing so. If you do you haven't judged it properly or you are acting like an arse. The 'German' motorway model (I've discussed US & German differences in previous threads - as part of the problem with our motorways), is reliant on people doing that. Our limits mitigate against those large differentials & mistakes by drivers.
vonhosen said:
My point is that in Germany it's not all roses as people seem to be suggesting here, people pull out on vehicles & people lane hog.
You shouldn't pull into the path of another vehicle that is going to then have to alter it's course or speed significantly as a result of you doing so. If you do you haven't judged it properly or you are acting like an arse. The 'German' motorway model (I've discussed US & German differences in previous threads - as part of the problem with our motorways), is reliant on people doing that. Our limits mitigate against those large differentials & mistakes by drivers.
More difficult for you to define 'significantly' here than your use of the word for speed transgressions.You shouldn't pull into the path of another vehicle that is going to then have to alter it's course or speed significantly as a result of you doing so. If you do you haven't judged it properly or you are acting like an arse. The 'German' motorway model (I've discussed US & German differences in previous threads - as part of the problem with our motorways), is reliant on people doing that. Our limits mitigate against those large differentials & mistakes by drivers.
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