62 in 30 letter 1 week before 6 months FML

62 in 30 letter 1 week before 6 months FML

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killerferret666

462 posts

189 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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IntriguedUser said:
If I could work from home whilst driving a bus believe me I would lol


I'm about to make a call to the lady who deals with holidays and pay
Surely you'll need to tell them you've banned anyway for their insurance. Find the approachable right person and let them know whats happened and go from there I dont think this is something you can keep a secret.

I thought you would of told them by now and also got a letter from the company stating if banned your job would be lost. Although that result in terms of a driving ban isnt that bad.

PorkInsider

5,906 posts

142 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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As above...

Sounds like you didn't tell your employer what was happening in advance?

What's done is done but surely it would have been better to tell them what was happening.

MorganP104

2,605 posts

131 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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OP, you absolutely need to declare to your employer that you have been disqualified.

It's certainly not acceptable to take an emergency 2 week holiday, and then come back like nothing's happened. You might just get away with that approach if your job had nothing to do with driving, but you're a bus driver - the possession of a licence is absolutely critical to your employment.

At any point, your employer can do an audit of the licence status of its staff. Your record will come back that you have been disqualified, and that you didn't disclose it to the company. Your employer will see this as a breach of trust, and will likely treat it as a case of gross misconduct.

If you do take a mystery two weeks off and come back like nothing's happened, the company's insurance will most likely be invalidated in your case, as you didn't disclose the disqualification. Should anything happen whilst you're driving the bus, this could all blow up into a massive storm of... You get the idea.

The ONLY way to deal with this is to come clean with your employer, and appeal to their better nature in order to keep your job.

Good luck.

jammy-git

29,778 posts

213 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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IntriguedUser said:
14 day disqualification and £330 fine.

Trying to stay level headed and calm so I can think straight. I'm supposed to be back to work tomorrow.

I have two lieu days. A long weekend from Thursday to Monday. I need to somehow get 9 days covered at work.

I need even more luck now
Please tell me they knew about this court appearance? If they did they should have been prepared for a disqualification...

herewego

8,814 posts

214 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Doesn't what he needs to tell them depend on what it says in his contract?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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herewego said:
Doesn't what he needs to tell them depend on what it says in his contract?
Somehow, I suspect a bus driver's contract will definitely have something to say on the subject of loss of licence...

OP - you've got a fairly decent result from court. It could have been a lot worse. I take it the A2 camera didn't come to anything, or is that still hanging over you/was it part of this appearance? But you need to mitigate the damage, and you need to do it ASAP. As others have said, if you try and hide this, it WILL come out at some point in the future, and the fan WILL be hit very, very hard.

C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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herewego said:
Doesn't what he needs to tell them depend on what it says in his contract?
I cannot believe he wouldn't be obliged to inform them of legal proceeding that may affect his right to work. Feel like OP is doing the bare minimum here, and it's going to bite him in the arse.

jammy-git

29,778 posts

213 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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herewego said:
Doesn't what he needs to tell them depend on what it says in his contract?
Regardless of what is in a contract I would consider it just common decency and respect to inform your BUS company employer that you've got a court appearing regarding a possibly driving disqualification.

IntriguedUser

Original Poster:

989 posts

122 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
Somehow, I suspect a bus driver's contract will definitely have something to say on the subject of loss of licence...

OP - you've got a fairly decent result from court. It could have been a lot worse. I take it the A2 camera didn't come to anything, or is that still hanging over you/was it part of this appearance? But you need to mitigate the damage, and you need to do it ASAP. As others have said, if you try and hide this, it WILL come out at some point in the future, and the fan WILL be hit very, very hard.
A2 average speed camera came to nothing.

The judge did not mention anything about points? What is the code for a 14 day disqualification? ( for insurance. Purposes)

Work did know. However the garage manager has not dealt with small short disqualificationstories only penalty points or long term bans. He seems confused.



Edited by IntriguedUser on Thursday 2nd March 11:33

IntriguedUser

Original Poster:

989 posts

122 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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C70R said:
I cannot believe he wouldn't be obliged to inform them of legal proceeding that may affect his right to work. Feel like OP is doing the bare minimum here, and it's going to bite him in the arse.
Guys. I am not doing the bare minimum, work were informed and have been updated on yhe decision. As said in another post they haven't dealt much with short disqualificationand onlyou long term bans and point endorsements.

I have a meeting tomorrow at 10am so will update on what happens. Thanks for the support everyone.

kiethton

13,924 posts

181 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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hope all goes well tomorrow anyway.

For your personal insurance yo can ring them to let them know but don't let them charge you anything more - mine tried to sting me for 55% of my annual policy cost when I let them know (after informing them of a non-fault claim a few months after my points were dished out). After a bit of too and fro the charges were cancelled when I proved that the charge date on the court paperwork was a good 4 months after the start of the policy (my points were put on from the offence date in February which was before the start of the policy)

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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IntriguedUser said:
The judge did not mention anything about points? What is the code for a 14 day disqualification? ( for insurance. Purposes)
Speeding in a car on a non-motorway is an SP30. You don't get points AND a ban.

IntriguedUser said:
Work did know. However the garage manager has not dealt with small short disqualificationstories only penalty points or long term bans. He seems confused.
Then he needs to go to his regional/central manager - there will be procedures.

agtlaw

6,733 posts

207 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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It's ban or points. Code for this is SP30.


IntriguedUser said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Somehow, I suspect a bus driver's contract will definitely have something to say on the subject of loss of licence...

OP - you've got a fairly decent result from court. It could have been a lot worse. I take it the A2 camera didn't come to anything, or is that still hanging over you/was it part of this appearance? But you need to mitigate the damage, and you need to do it ASAP. As others have said, if you try and hide this, it WILL come out at some point in the future, and the fan WILL be hit very, very hard.
A2 average speed camera came to nothing.

The judge did not mention anything about points? What is the code for a 14 day disqualification? ( for insurance. Purposes)

Work did know. However the garage manager has not dealt with small short disqualificationstories only penalty points or long term bans. He seems confused.



Edited by IntriguedUser on Thursday 2nd March 11:33

HantsRat

2,369 posts

109 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Your code will be an SP30 with a 14 day disqualification.

Sheepshanks

32,903 posts

120 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Yes - the "benefit" of a short ban is you don't have a load of points hanging over you for 3 years.

However be aware that insurance companies tend not to like bans.

IntriguedUser

Original Poster:

989 posts

122 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Sheepshanks said:
Yes - the "benefit" of a short ban is you don't have a load of points hanging over you for 3 years.

However be aware that insurance companies tend not to like bans.
On confused it doesn't give her option for 14 day ban. It says enter numbers of MONTHS. Odd

Terminator X

15,177 posts

205 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Long long time ago I got a straight 14 day ban for careless driving. The fuzz wanted to do me for reckless but had no witnesses. They also tested me for drink driving but I hadn't touched a drop all night so then started to accuse me / others in the car that one of them was the driver and me simply pretending to have driven!

14 days for the OP seems harsh to me!

TX.

Myles Peraua

19,633 posts

204 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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IntriguedUser said:
On confused it doesn't give her option for 14 day ban. It says enter numbers of MONTHS. Odd
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HTH wink

Markbarry1977

4,097 posts

104 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Hope your managers are sympathetic and don't sack you. You seem to be generally remorseful and hopefully have learnt your lesson.


HantsRat

2,369 posts

109 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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I did some comparing on insurance price hikes with points vs a ban. A ban usually resulted in £100 increase a year and 6 points was about £50.

Look on the bright side though, at least you don't have points over your head for the next 3 years.