62 in 30 letter 1 week before 6 months FML

62 in 30 letter 1 week before 6 months FML

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Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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IntriguedUser said:
Problem is I still need a license to drive a bus, unless I don't tell them. But I'm sure once they do their annual delay license check it will flag up as I had been banned and they'll question me.

I'm looking to do things the right way here. It's also very difficult to get the annual leave as they're preset, only able to swap with other drivers.
You're not really giving that impression. You come across as hugely irresponsible and you're expecting help with something which should pretty much be cut and dried.

Apart from the fact that you're having a child while "in debt" and you're willing to risk your licence and therefore your job despite the impending birth you're now contemplating not declaring a driving ban to your employer. Could that not carry a risk of further prosecution, as could continuing to drive while banned?

You really need to have a serious word with yourself and face up to your responsibilities.

That said your thread title appears to suggest that this is the first notice you've received of the offence. Is that the case?

JonV8V

7,224 posts

124 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Pothole said:
IntriguedUser said:
Problem is I still need a license to drive a bus, unless I don't tell them. But I'm sure once they do their annual delay license check it will flag up as I had been banned and they'll question me.

I'm looking to do things the right way here. It's also very difficult to get the annual leave as they're preset, only able to swap with other drivers.
You're not really giving that impression. You come across as hugely irresponsible and you're expecting help with something which should pretty much be cut and dried.

Apart from the fact that you're having a child while "in debt" and you're willing to risk your licence and therefore your job despite the impending birth you're now contemplating not declaring a driving ban to your employer. Could that not carry a risk of further prosecution, as could continuing to drive while banned?

You really need to have a serious word with yourself and face up to your responsibilities.

That said your thread title appears to suggest that this is the first notice you've received of the offence. Is that the case?
Really? His partner is expecting in 4 months so unless they're elephants, at the time he wasn't an expecting father. He's recognised he should know better. Other have pointed out it's a road that's easy to speed on. He knows he's in trouble, he just wants help to stop himself getting into more trouble which will happen if he loses his job as a result of a ban.

If he was sitting here on 9 points and just picked up yet another ticket then I'd agree with you, and if he gets done again, I'll be at the front of the queue to throw him to the lions. But he's not.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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JonV8V said:
Pothole said:
IntriguedUser said:
Problem is I still need a license to drive a bus, unless I don't tell them. But I'm sure once they do their annual delay license check it will flag up as I had been banned and they'll question me.

I'm looking to do things the right way here. It's also very difficult to get the annual leave as they're preset, only able to swap with other drivers.
You're not really giving that impression. You come across as hugely irresponsible and you're expecting help with something which should pretty much be cut and dried.

Apart from the fact that you're having a child while "in debt" and you're willing to risk your licence and therefore your job despite the impending birth you're now contemplating not declaring a driving ban to your employer. Could that not carry a risk of further prosecution, as could continuing to drive while banned?

You really need to have a serious word with yourself and face up to your responsibilities.

That said your thread title appears to suggest that this is the first notice you've received of the offence. Is that the case?
Really? His partner is expecting in 4 months so unless they're elephants, at the time he wasn't an expecting father. He's recognised he should know better. Other have pointed out it's a road that's easy to speed on. He knows he's in trouble, he just wants help to stop himself getting into more trouble which will happen if he loses his job as a result of a ban.

If he was sitting here on 9 points and just picked up yet another ticket then I'd agree with you, and if he gets done again, I'll be at the front of the queue to throw him to the lions. But he's not.
So no need to man up and take responsibility for his actions, then? No need to plan a pregnancy? The road is "easy to speed on" so he's not really to blame? "he just wants help to stop himself getting into more trouble which will happen if he loses his job as a result of a ban." so much so that he's actually thinking about not declaring his ban to said employer and driving bus loads of other people around while that ban is in place?

A fine, upstanding, contributing member of society indeed! So sorry I doubted him.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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As usual threads like this bring out the very worst types on PH. rolleyes

Op. I cant help other than to suggest you maybe take the advice of the member who has a similar situation, PM him if not already.
And it may be worth a quick chat or call for the free 30 mins you may get with a a lawyer.

Best of luck hope it doesnt bite you in the ass too much. Keep us updated.

hora

37,122 posts

211 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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You might already be in debt but without your job you'll be further in debt. Have you spoken to your employer about this? Regardless if you simply get alot of points they may let you go anyway and you may struggle to get a bus driving job elsewhere.

Speak to your employer first. If they'll keep you then get a loan/Solicitor advice.

I do question why taxi drivers etc use their phone, speed etc. It's akin to watching porn on a work PC for an office worker IMO (a bad analogy?).

IanCormac

1,894 posts

193 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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I'd start looking for another job if I were you. I can't see you keeping a driving job where you're responsible for the public with this sort of speeding offence.

The Beaver King

6,095 posts

195 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Pothole said:
So no need to man up and take responsibility for his actions, then? No need to plan a pregnancy? The road is "easy to speed on" so he's not really to blame? "he just wants help to stop himself getting into more trouble which will happen if he loses his job as a result of a ban." so much so that he's actually thinking about not declaring his ban to said employer and driving bus loads of other people around while that ban is in place?

A fine, upstanding, contributing member of society indeed! So sorry I doubted him.
C'mon Pothole, really?

I get where you're coming from with some of the OP's comments, but from what he has said so far, he is hardly racking up speeding convictions left, right and centre. He also doesn't come across as one of the usual types who either; 1. Don't give a crap and just want to know what to expect 2. Want to buy their way out of punishment 3. Start laying into people when they tell him he is a tt.

Yes, even considering hiding any potential loss of licence is absolutely retarded (and do not do this OP!), but he is obviously desperate and probably bricking his pants at the thought of losing his job (on top of his debt). Not to mention having a kid on the way.

Maybe we could cut him a little slack?



OP, my advice is as per some of the above. Get some form of legal representation with the aim to save your licence. Better to fork out a few quid now and hope it pays off, rather than losing your licence and your job. You can still earn money if you have your licence...

Evolved

3,565 posts

187 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Pothole said:
You're not really giving that impression. You come across as hugely irresponsible and you're expecting help with something which should pretty much be cut and dried.

Apart from the fact that you're having a child while "in debt" and you're willing to risk your licence and therefore your job despite the impending birth you're now contemplating not declaring a driving ban to your employer. Could that not carry a risk of further prosecution, as could continuing to drive while banned?

You really need to have a serious word with yourself and face up to your responsibilities.

That said your thread title appears to suggest that this is the first notice you've received of the offence. Is that the case?
Seriously, step down off your soap box!

clarkey

1,365 posts

284 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Sorry, what does FML mean?

williamp

19,256 posts

273 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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If you are a bus driver wkith TFL, arent they heavily unionised? The Union might offer legal representation (and the rest might go on strike in solidarity if you lose your job...)

worsy

5,804 posts

175 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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clarkey said:
Sorry, what does FML mean?
F*** My Life

Would indicate the OP is < 30

hora

37,122 posts

211 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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In another note are you one of those bus drivers in London who seem to think it's ok to pull out/bully other road users as though it's your right of way?

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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hora said:
In another note are you one of those bus drivers in London who seem to think it's ok to pull out/bully other road users as though it's your right of way?
Really???

Are all long standing PH members tts?

Andehh

7,110 posts

206 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Ignoring the usual self riotous Pistonhead attitude pointing out the obvious repeatedly, I would seriously look at having a word with someone like forum member AGTlaw and beg/borrowing/stealing the money to take someone on board to help you out. This is not a 'wing it' scenario if your career is on the line. Sell the car(!) if you have to.

What is £xxx+ in fees now if it might help save your job/career?

Edited by Andehh on Friday 9th December 08:40

Ilovejapcrap

3,281 posts

112 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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I'm interested in hearing how this pans out

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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PM AGTlaw.
Right now.
He will be able to guide you on cost/benefit analysis before charging you, which is what you need.

sparkythecat

7,902 posts

255 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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The OP still hasn't clarified whether or not he was driving a bus at the time of the offence.

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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sparkythecat said:
The OP still hasn't clarified whether or not he was driving a bus at the time of the offence.
It was amusing the first time.
Less so now... smile

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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JonV8V said:
Other have pointed out it's a road that's easy to speed on.
Look at the Google maps link I already posted after his screenshot.

The South Circular road. 500m from a large, and usually congested, roundabout to a traffic-light controlled junction with the A2. 570m the other side of it to another big roundabout. At 5pm.

JonV8V said:
He knows he's in trouble, he just wants help to stop himself getting into more trouble which will happen if he loses his job as a result of a ban.
"Forgetting" to tell the people you drive buses for is a strange way to do that, don'cha think?

JonV8V said:
If he was sitting here on 9 points and just picked up yet another ticket then I'd agree with you, and if he gets done again, I'll be at the front of the queue to throw him to the lions. But he's not.
The Beaver King said:
...from what he has said so far, he is hardly racking up speeding convictions left, right and centre.
Feel free to look at the thread he started last month about cameras on the A2... And remember he's already referred to how few cars went past during his roadside chat.

This is somebody who, with a sprog brewing and knowing he's waiting to hear about being stopped at more than double the limit, then goes through some cameras in a "safe zone" "really quick"... and whose first thought then is to "forget" to tell his employer he's been banned so he can continue to drive up to 80 people around...

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
JonV8V said:
Other have pointed out it's a road that's easy to speed on.
Look at the Google maps link I already posted after his screenshot.

The South Circular road. 500m from a large, and usually congested, roundabout to a traffic-light controlled junction with the A2. 570m the other side of it to another big roundabout. At 5pm.

JonV8V said:
He knows he's in trouble, he just wants help to stop himself getting into more trouble which will happen if he loses his job as a result of a ban.
"Forgetting" to tell the people you drive buses for is a strange way to do that, don'cha think?

JonV8V said:
If he was sitting here on 9 points and just picked up yet another ticket then I'd agree with you, and if he gets done again, I'll be at the front of the queue to throw him to the lions. But he's not.
The Beaver King said:
...from what he has said so far, he is hardly racking up speeding convictions left, right and centre.
Feel free to look at the thread he started last month about cameras on the A2... And remember he's already referred to how few cars went past during his roadside chat.

This is somebody who, with a sprog brewing and knowing he's waiting to hear about being stopped at more than double the limit, then goes through some cameras in a "safe zone" "really quick"... and whose first thought then is to "forget" to tell his employer he's been banned so he can continue to drive up to 80 people around...
There was room to get up to over 60, it can't have been that busy wink