DVLA has banned me from driving for 4 years..and it wasnt me

DVLA has banned me from driving for 4 years..and it wasnt me

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xRIEx

8,180 posts

149 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
But the duration of the ban suggests it's a second offence (minimum 3yr) rather than a first (minimum 1yr).

Unless the OP has a previous drink ban within the last decade, then that would suggest that the miscreant in question has previous - so how come they've picked that up, but not the right licence?

The other alternative is that it was the OP, but he was so pissed that he doesn't even remember being in the area, let alone stopped...
I would guess that the DVLA has nothing to do with the sentencing, they just fill in the sentence as advised by the court into the database; the court takes into account the previous of the actual miscreant when passing sentence.

eybic

9,212 posts

175 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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As has been said, this isn't necessarily the fault of the DVLA, the court would have given them the information.

Decky_Q

1,515 posts

178 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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The license number is probably one digit different from the person who committed the offence, so when updating their records, they put the wrong digit in and the rest of the details were autofilled from details already held.

Slushbox

1,484 posts

106 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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I wonder if this will be notified to OP's insurance co?

ToMBoMB

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76 posts

181 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Decky_Q said:
The license number is probably one digit different from the person who committed the offence, so when updating their records, they put the wrong digit in and the rest of the details were autofilled from details already held.
This was my initial thought as well

ToMBoMB

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76 posts

181 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Slushbox said:
I wonder if this will be notified to OP's insurance co?
I was under the impression that I was supposed to notify them of any convictions so it should be ok. Maybe I should call them to make sure

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

138 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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RemyMartin said:
Jesus wept. Terrible advice.

If he gets pulled and has no paperwork to prove his innocence that's a day in the cells.

OP, do NOT drive!
Day in the cells for not having your licence with you?

33q

1,556 posts

124 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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I'd be checking my bank accounts and everything else involving my identity

The true offender must have given thie op's identity from the very outset at the roadside

Vaud

50,607 posts

156 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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ToMBoMB said:
Decky_Q said:
The license number is probably one digit different from the person who committed the offence, so when updating their records, they put the wrong digit in and the rest of the details were autofilled from details already held.
This was my initial thought as well
Which if true is shocking data validation... or rather lack of... given the impact it can have on someone.

OP, once you get more data, it's the kind of thing that the DVLA needs to be held to account for, and your MP should be your friend in this. It's the kind of thing they can genuinely help with.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Vaud said:
ToMBoMB said:
Decky_Q said:
The license number is probably one digit different from the person who committed the offence, so when updating their records, they put the wrong digit in and the rest of the details were autofilled from details already held.
This was my initial thought as well
Which if true is shocking data validation... or rather lack of... given the impact it can have on someone.
Yeh, just look at the way the licence number's built.

ABCDE 123456 FGXXX

ABCDE - first five characters of surname
123456 - DOB, rearranged
FG - first initials
XXX - other characters

I strongly suspect that those other characters involve some kind of validation checksum, so "one digit different" would come back invalid.

(BTW, OP, the "so pissed you don't remember" was a joke... I know this doesn't seem funny now...)

Yes, it's a BH in Scotland today, but it's not in Wales.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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It wouldn't be the first time the DVLA have input the wrong details. See if the Courts will confirm your license number if its different its a simple job with the DVLA to correct it.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

240 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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in my case , i had the same name and date of birth as the person whose points i received, although we lived in different parts of the country

Vaud

50,607 posts

156 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
Yeh, just look at the way the licence number's built.

ABCDE 123456 FGXXX

ABCDE - first five characters of surname
123456 - DOB, rearranged
FG - first initials
XXX - other characters

I strongly suspect that those other characters involve some kind of validation checksum, so "one digit different" would come back invalid.
Indeed... (quick google):

Each licence holder in England, Scotland and Wales has a unique driver number, which is 16 characters long. The characters are constructed in the following way:

1–5: The first five characters of the surname (padded with 9s if less than 5 characters)
6: The decade digit from the year of birth (e.g. for 1987 it would be 8)
7–8: The month of birth (7th character incremented by 5 if driver is female i.e. 51–62 instead of 01–12)
9–10: The date within the month of birth
11: The year digit from the year of birth (e.g. for 1987 it would be 7)
12–13: The first two initials of the first names, padded with a 9 if no middle name
14: Arbitrary digit – usually 9, but decremented to differentiate drivers with the first 13 characters in common
15–16: Two computer check digits.
17–18: Appended, two digits representing the licence issue, which increases by 1 for each licence issued.

Otherwise, I guess it is possible that the convicted person provided partial details and the wrong "gaps" were filled.



clockworks

5,375 posts

146 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Not quite the same, but I got pulled over a few years ago, driving to work on a Saturday morning. The police were waiting in the layby opposite my house, and followed me for 4 miles into town. I was accused of driving while disqualified, which was news to me as I'd had a clean licence for over 30 years. It turns out that a person with exactly the same name and birthday as me, but who lived 400 miles away, had been disqualified. His driver number would've been very similar to mine, so a typing error, rather than identity theft.

Fortunately it was easily sorted at the roadside after they made a couple of calls.

cptsideways

13,551 posts

253 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Statutory declaration is what you need to apply for I think, might be different in Scotland though ¿

vanvan

27 posts

110 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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You really need to get hold of the head of enforcement at the courts (assuming it's the same in Scotland).

I had a similar issue, albeit over a TV licence fine, and after going round the houses these where the ones who could reverse the actions (in my case an attachment of earnings).

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Do not drive, get a solicitor on the case and keep all receipts for taxis etc.

It may not be the DVLA who have messed up but after the last 6 weeks of them screwing up a simple plate change so much so that my car got impounded by the police for 24 hours I would not put anything past them... they are also utterly unhelpful when you speak to them and take great delight in being that way.

ToMBoMB

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76 posts

181 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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looks like im going to have to wait until tomorrow as the court in question is closed today so i'm running into a brick wall.

Sheepshanks

32,806 posts

120 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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MarshPhantom said:
RemyMartin said:
Jesus wept. Terrible advice.

If he gets pulled and has no paperwork to prove his innocence that's a day in the cells.

OP, do NOT drive!
Day in the cells for not having your licence with you?
Hmmm...technically he doesn't have a licence.

I think I'd still drive if absolutely necessary, but reckon I'd be crapping myself the whole time.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

104 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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coyft said:
I would definitely continue to drive if it were me. You've done nothing wrong so why should you be inconvenienced?
I'd do this!