DVLA has banned me from driving for 4 years..and it wasnt me
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You absolutely should complain as already stated. A process which allows this to happen clearly has inadequate safeguards. Given the finger pointing that is going on and refusal to accept any kind of responsibility, then a complaint will do them the world of good.
If you feel particularly interested, an FOI request about how many times a driver has been banned when they have committed no offence might be revealing of how frequently such a problem arises.
If you feel particularly interested, an FOI request about how many times a driver has been banned when they have committed no offence might be revealing of how frequently such a problem arises.
julian64 said:
It is comments from the hand wringers that made this a storm In a teacup, and further handwringing that wants the storm of their own making to be addressed in a storm like manner. But if you feel the need to be all daily mail....go ahead
Tosh... (to quote you) and I specifically said NOT to do the Daily Mail etc. or were you too quick to jump in before reading the posts? I said one should write to explain the circumstances in order that strengthen procedures to help prevent it happening again. No hand wringing, nothing more nothing less. So excuse me if I take exception to your posts... 
ToMBoMB said:
techguyone said:
Wonder who will get the blame for confusing 4 months with four years too.
I thought that when reading the article...I'm in the "proper complaint" camp.
If you don't there's much more chance this will all get brushed under the carpet with nothing changing. You may however not be alone, you may be the 101th this month. If you complain properly then the people that need to know can look at it properly, see whether it's common enough to change procedures and then make that change. Of course they may not feel they need to change, but at least you've tried.
Far too often we don't complain, and then wonder why things never change, because the people needed to know, never got to find out. Constructive criticism is the key, and not expecting much helps your sanity too.
If you don't there's much more chance this will all get brushed under the carpet with nothing changing. You may however not be alone, you may be the 101th this month. If you complain properly then the people that need to know can look at it properly, see whether it's common enough to change procedures and then make that change. Of course they may not feel they need to change, but at least you've tried.
Far too often we don't complain, and then wonder why things never change, because the people needed to know, never got to find out. Constructive criticism is the key, and not expecting much helps your sanity too.
I would not "complain" per se, I would however write to the DVLA setting out what has happened and inviting them to clarify what went wrong. This may, may, unlikely but may, lead to more efficiency on their part in time, in that they may identify a process which can be improved and/or verified better to prevent it happening in future.
I lost the sale of a Car a few years ago because the DVLA transposed the mileage from the Donor Vehicle on to my vehicle and it showed up in a HPI check. When I complained the response I got was not really one of any concern . I would personally put it down to a bad experience and move on dealing with these institutions is mind-blowingly difficult.
julian64 said:
Ms R.Saucy said:
55palfers said:
If you can get a £100 fine for straying into a bus lane, or as a Judge ruled, £85 as a reasonable sum for admin involved in chasing parking infringements, this should be worth tens of thousands
what is the loss? and how do you quantify it ?I would've thought it quite easy to quantify
as for the job of job that actually depends on whether he is dismissed and that dismissal is deemed to be valid.
Jasandjules said:
I would not "complain" per se, I would however write to the DVLA setting out what has happened and inviting them to clarify what went wrong. This may, may, unlikely but may, lead to more efficiency on their part in time, in that they may identify a process which can be improved and/or verified better to prevent it happening in future.
indeed and while it;s become trendy to dismiss ' lessons will be learnt' as flannel, a lot of organisations do actually do this ... it would be interestign to know what the name and driver number of the chap who was supposed to have been banned was as it's not as if driver numbers are in a format that doesn;t link them to the name quite easily ( given it starts with the first 5 letters of our surname, contains their date of birth in a mildly rearranged way and your forename initials ... ( not sure if driver number changes on change of names , it does if someone submits a request for the gender marker to be changed )
compare this to the NINo with 2 random letters and 6 random digits followed by a random letter , or the current format NHSno which is just a 10 digit number ( and duplicates probably come from the issuing of the current format numbers bein g done manually for those alive at the time of the change over )
julian64 said:
aeropilot said:
RichB said:
ToMBoMB said:
Just had a call from the DVLA saying that the ban has been removed from my record.. Interestingly they are still blaming the court for sending them over incorrect information whilst the man at the court said that it was the DVLA that had done something wrong.
Good for you. Personally I wouldn't do all the social media stuff and newspapers but I would write (on paper) to your MP, copy the Secretary of State for Transport, a formally worded complaint and precis of what happened. These sort of mix ups are not good enough and has been said the other guy is probably driving round with a licence. The original advice was sound. continue to drive and just let the DVLA know. The chances or this ending up with you arrested were virtually zero, and the chances of you being uninsured at the site of an accident were also zero.
Too many hand wringers on this thread.
ToMBoMB said:
Just had a call from the DVLA saying that the ban has been removed from my record.. Interestingly they are still blaming the court for sending them over incorrect information whilst the man at the court said that it was the DVLA that had done something wrong.
The usual 'pass the parcel' by organs of the state. However my money says the court staff are blameless. The chances of any of them succeeding in getting the 14th, 15th, and 16th characters of the D/L to match those of the OP are vanishingly small. Another Swansea SNAFU. Has the DVLA, of its own volition, ever admitted responsibility without obfuscation and/or attempting to pin the blame on the victim or another individual/organisation?Everyone makes mistakes. It's how they are acknowleged that matters. Also measures implemented to prevent future repetition. The stock form of words "lessons will be learned" is far too often a PR placebo and nothing actually gets done.
Red Devil said:
ToMBoMB said:
Just had a call from the DVLA saying that the ban has been removed from my record.. Interestingly they are still blaming the court for sending them over incorrect information whilst the man at the court said that it was the DVLA that had done something wrong.
The usual 'pass the parcel' by organs of the state. However my money says the court staff are blameless. The chances of any of them succeeding in getting the 14th, 15th, and 16th characters of the D/L to match those of the OP are vanishingly small. Another Swansea SNAFU. Has the DVLA, of its own volition, ever admitted responsibility without obfuscation and/or attempting to pin the blame on the victim or another individual/organisation?Everyone makes mistakes. It's how they are acknowleged that matters. Also measures implemented to prevent future repetition. The stock form of words "lessons will be learned" is far too often a PR placebo and nothing actually gets done.
RichB said:
ToMBoMB said:
Just had a call from the DVLA saying that the ban has been removed from my record.. Interestingly they are still blaming the court for sending them over incorrect information whilst the man at the court said that it was the DVLA that had done something wrong.
Good for you. Personally I wouldn't do all the social media stuff and newspapers but I would write (on paper) to your MP, copy the Secretary of State for Transport, a formally worded complaint and precis of what happened. These sort of mix ups are not good enough and has been said the other guy is probably driving round with a licence. TooMany2cvs said:
Gotta be a cockup by the paper, surely? Minimum ban for a first offence drink-drive is 1yr. Mind you, he wasn't very far over the limit - and would have been legal anywhere else in the UK. 33ug/100ml, versus a limit of 22 in Scotland and 35 elsewhere.
May have already been asked - but what if an English driver gets convicted at, say, 30ug in Scotland; do they lose their licence to drive in the UK, or only in Scotland?IanA2 said:
Fascinating question...any specialist lawyers about?
I'm not a lawyer but if convicted of DD in Scotland then the ban will apply UK wide.This article is interesting;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotla...
CAPP0 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Gotta be a cockup by the paper, surely? Minimum ban for a first offence drink-drive is 1yr. Mind you, he wasn't very far over the limit - and would have been legal anywhere else in the UK. 33ug/100ml, versus a limit of 22 in Scotland and 35 elsewhere.
May have already been asked - but what if an English driver gets convicted at, say, 30ug in Scotland; do they lose their licence to drive in the UK, or only in Scotland?Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff