DVLA has banned me from driving for 4 years..and it wasnt me
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Just another update. My local MP has been back to me and said he has passed my email to him on to Chris Grayling (the secretary of transport). In the email I laid out everything that has gone on. My MP also suggested to send the story to the national press even though it is now resolved.
Said he wont pass it on until I say so but seemed to think it was a good idea.
Said he wont pass it on until I say so but seemed to think it was a good idea.
Edited by ToMBoMB on Friday 6th January 12:29
ToMBoMB said:
Just another update. My local MP has been back to me and said he has passed my email to him on to Chris Grayling (the secretary of transport). In the email I laid out everything that has gone on. My MP also suggested to send the story to the national press even though it is now resolved.
Said he wont pass it on until I say so but seemed to think it was a good idea.
You might as well go for a request to increase the national speed limit while you have the ear of the man Said he wont pass it on until I say so but seemed to think it was a good idea.
Edited by ToMBoMB on Friday 6th January 12:29
ToMBoMB said:
Just another update. My local MP has been back to me and said he has passed my email to him on to Chris Grayling (the secretary of transport). In the email I laid out everything that has gone on. My MP also suggested to send the story to the national press even though it is now resolved.
Said he wont pass it on until I say so but seemed to think it was a good idea.
And why haven't you gone to national press yet??Said he wont pass it on until I say so but seemed to think it was a good idea.
Edited by ToMBoMB on Friday 6th January 12:29
xRIEx said:
xjay1337 said:
The question is interesting, if you were caught over the Scottish DD limit, but below the UK Limit as a UK Resident but in Scotland, to be banned nationally may raise some questions. What happens if you were on a back road near the border and crossed without necessarily realising it?
I do not condone DD at all. It's stupid. But the question is there, and your comparison of saying that's like being caught speeding on a motorway at 70 is not valid, because generally motorways are all the same speed limit. Where as DD has different limits north or south of the border and there is no easy way to measure your BAC unlike using a speedometer...
It is an interesting question, but it's not too difficult to answer: you obey the local laws of the jurisdiction you are in. Should a Dutch person be let off if they are caught smoking weed in the UK just because it's legal in the Netherlands (or Holland, or Amsterdam - I'm not sure where the permission is applicable). Various states in the US have different laws from each other (or variations on the same laws, etc.), but if you commit a crime in one state you receive punishment in that state and your criminal record applies in the whole country (I've no doubt traffic laws vary by state in some cases).I do not condone DD at all. It's stupid. But the question is there, and your comparison of saying that's like being caught speeding on a motorway at 70 is not valid, because generally motorways are all the same speed limit. Where as DD has different limits north or south of the border and there is no easy way to measure your BAC unlike using a speedometer...
The law in Scotland specifies a blood alcohol level - if you exceed that level when in that jurisdiction, you've broken that law.
boyse7en said:
xRIEx said:
xjay1337 said:
The question is interesting, if you were caught over the Scottish DD limit, but below the UK Limit as a UK Resident but in Scotland, to be banned nationally may raise some questions. What happens if you were on a back road near the border and crossed without necessarily realising it?
I do not condone DD at all. It's stupid. But the question is there, and your comparison of saying that's like being caught speeding on a motorway at 70 is not valid, because generally motorways are all the same speed limit. Where as DD has different limits north or south of the border and there is no easy way to measure your BAC unlike using a speedometer...
It is an interesting question, but it's not too difficult to answer: you obey the local laws of the jurisdiction you are in. Should a Dutch person be let off if they are caught smoking weed in the UK just because it's legal in the Netherlands (or Holland, or Amsterdam - I'm not sure where the permission is applicable). Various states in the US have different laws from each other (or variations on the same laws, etc.), but if you commit a crime in one state you receive punishment in that state and your criminal record applies in the whole country (I've no doubt traffic laws vary by state in some cases).I do not condone DD at all. It's stupid. But the question is there, and your comparison of saying that's like being caught speeding on a motorway at 70 is not valid, because generally motorways are all the same speed limit. Where as DD has different limits north or south of the border and there is no easy way to measure your BAC unlike using a speedometer...
The law in Scotland specifies a blood alcohol level - if you exceed that level when in that jurisdiction, you've broken that law.
Last time I was aware of countries making up the UK, or GB or United Kingdom the Netherlands wasn't included.
boyse7en said:
xRIEx said:
xjay1337 said:
The question is interesting, if you were caught over the Scottish DD limit, but below the UK Limit as a UK Resident but in Scotland, to be banned nationally may raise some questions. What happens if you were on a back road near the border and crossed without necessarily realising it?
I do not condone DD at all. It's stupid. But the question is there, and your comparison of saying that's like being caught speeding on a motorway at 70 is not valid, because generally motorways are all the same speed limit. Where as DD has different limits north or south of the border and there is no easy way to measure your BAC unlike using a speedometer...
It is an interesting question, but it's not too difficult to answer: you obey the local laws of the jurisdiction you are in. Should a Dutch person be let off if they are caught smoking weed in the UK just because it's legal in the Netherlands (or Holland, or Amsterdam - I'm not sure where the permission is applicable). Various states in the US have different laws from each other (or variations on the same laws, etc.), but if you commit a crime in one state you receive punishment in that state and your criminal record applies in the whole country (I've no doubt traffic laws vary by state in some cases).I do not condone DD at all. It's stupid. But the question is there, and your comparison of saying that's like being caught speeding on a motorway at 70 is not valid, because generally motorways are all the same speed limit. Where as DD has different limits north or south of the border and there is no easy way to measure your BAC unlike using a speedometer...
The law in Scotland specifies a blood alcohol level - if you exceed that level when in that jurisdiction, you've broken that law.
aeropilot said:
julian64 said:
aeropilot said:
RichB said:
ToMBoMB said:
Just had a call from the DVLA saying that the ban has been removed from my record.. Interestingly they are still blaming the court for sending them over incorrect information whilst the man at the court said that it was the DVLA that had done something wrong.
Good for you. Personally I wouldn't do all the social media stuff and newspapers but I would write (on paper) to your MP, copy the Secretary of State for Transport, a formally worded complaint and precis of what happened. These sort of mix ups are not good enough and has been said the other guy is probably driving round with a licence. 
ks.It's not about not making mistakes, it about organisational proceedures that should do all that is possible to avoid making such mistakes....or rather proceedures that should be in place to pick up such enevitable human errors before they leave that organisation. That's why they need to be reported, or rather politely pointed out via the route mentioned above.
About 6 weeks ago went to my car and found it clamped due to no tax. I called dvla to find out what was going on and it turns out they failed to register the car in my name and since the car had no registered keeper they cancelled the road tax in July last year without notifying me.
The fact that they had all my details on their systems was apparently irrelevant because most people set up direct debits to pay road tax on cars they don't own
I ended up missing a customer appointment and losing a days earnings plus having to pay a fine due to their incompetence. Of course they also handed my private reg to the new owner of another car I sold a few years ago costing me a further 3-500 quid.
They are the most inept incompetent a
holes in existence.RemyMartin said:
julian64 said:
Hmm all very well them saying you can't drive till its resolved but for some people that could be the end of their job. For me it would be.
I would simply continue to drive if you are sure its nothing to do with you.
Jesus wept. Terrible advice.I would simply continue to drive if you are sure its nothing to do with you.
ToMBoMB said:
Just another update. My local MP has been back to me and said he has passed my email to him on to Chris Grayling (the secretary of transport).
That's what I meant by complaints from MPs going into Government Departments at the top. 
It will trickle down within the DVLA and there will be much arse kicking going on, although of course you may get a very bland response.
GC8 said:
RemyMartin said:
julian64 said:
Hmm all very well them saying you can't drive till its resolved but for some people that could be the end of their job. For me it would be.
I would simply continue to drive if you are sure its nothing to do with you.
Jesus wept. Terrible advice.I would simply continue to drive if you are sure its nothing to do with you.
GC8 said:
RemyMartin said:
julian64 said:
Hmm all very well them saying you can't drive till its resolved but for some people that could be the end of their job. For me it would be.
I would simply continue to drive if you are sure its nothing to do with you.
Jesus wept. Terrible advice.I would simply continue to drive if you are sure its nothing to do with you.
matchmaker said:
GC8 said:
RemyMartin said:
julian64 said:
Hmm all very well them saying you can't drive till its resolved but for some people that could be the end of their job. For me it would be.
I would simply continue to drive if you are sure its nothing to do with you.
Jesus wept. Terrible advice.I would simply continue to drive if you are sure its nothing to do with you.
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