DVLA has banned me from driving for 4 years..and it wasnt me
Discussion
At the risk of opening a huge can of worms here...
So the OP received a ban as a result of a clerical error. Has the court / DVLA completed the process by following up on the actual perpetrator to actually apply a disqual to his licence?
The implications are not limited to him still driving around when he should be banned, but what if he's still drinking and driving?
And what if he were to kill someone whilst drinking and driving and the deceased family found out he should have previously been banned from driving but wasn't due to a DVLA clerical error?
Food for though?
So the OP received a ban as a result of a clerical error. Has the court / DVLA completed the process by following up on the actual perpetrator to actually apply a disqual to his licence?
The implications are not limited to him still driving around when he should be banned, but what if he's still drinking and driving?
And what if he were to kill someone whilst drinking and driving and the deceased family found out he should have previously been banned from driving but wasn't due to a DVLA clerical error?
Food for though?
An update on this....
The DVLA called me on 04/01/17 to confirm that there had been an error and that they had wiped my record of any convictions and my licence was back to how it was before. I received a letter in the post on 06/01/17 confirming this.
I then received another letter on 23/01/17 saying "we have received details from the court about you disqualification form driving for an alcohol-related offence". I didn't respond to this letter as i assumed it was a follow up to not sending my licence back to them the first time.
On 02/03/17 I had to send my insurance company my driving licence check number in order to validate my new car insurance so I logged in to the DVLA website to get the information and was presented with the information that I was in fact still banned from driving.
I immediately called the DVLA and was told that they can see that the ban has been re-applied but do not know why. I was told that my information has been passed on to their court department and that they dont know how long it will take to be looked at. I have until 06/03/17 to send my insurance company the check code or my insurance will be cancelled so that will be more hassle.
I am now going down the route of the papers with this. I contacted my local MP again but he is out of office until the 6th.
The DVLA called me on 04/01/17 to confirm that there had been an error and that they had wiped my record of any convictions and my licence was back to how it was before. I received a letter in the post on 06/01/17 confirming this.
I then received another letter on 23/01/17 saying "we have received details from the court about you disqualification form driving for an alcohol-related offence". I didn't respond to this letter as i assumed it was a follow up to not sending my licence back to them the first time.
On 02/03/17 I had to send my insurance company my driving licence check number in order to validate my new car insurance so I logged in to the DVLA website to get the information and was presented with the information that I was in fact still banned from driving.
I immediately called the DVLA and was told that they can see that the ban has been re-applied but do not know why. I was told that my information has been passed on to their court department and that they dont know how long it will take to be looked at. I have until 06/03/17 to send my insurance company the check code or my insurance will be cancelled so that will be more hassle.
I am now going down the route of the papers with this. I contacted my local MP again but he is out of office until the 6th.
ToMBoMB said:
An update on this....
The DVLA called me on 04/01/17 to confirm that there had been an error and that they had wiped my record of any convictions and my licence was back to how it was before. I received a letter in the post on 06/01/17 confirming this.
I then received another letter on 23/01/17 saying "we have received details from the court about you disqualification form driving for an alcohol-related offence". I didn't respond to this letter as i assumed it was a follow up to not sending my licence back to them the first time.
On 02/03/17 I had to send my insurance company my driving licence check number in order to validate my new car insurance so I logged in to the DVLA website to get the information and was presented with the information that I was in fact still banned from driving.
I immediately called the DVLA and was told that they can see that the ban has been re-applied but do not know why. I was told that my information has been passed on to their court department and that they dont know how long it will take to be looked at. I have until 06/03/17 to send my insurance company the check code or my insurance will be cancelled so that will be more hassle.
I am now going down the route of the papers with this. I contacted my local MP again but he is out of office until the 6th.
Appalling!The DVLA called me on 04/01/17 to confirm that there had been an error and that they had wiped my record of any convictions and my licence was back to how it was before. I received a letter in the post on 06/01/17 confirming this.
I then received another letter on 23/01/17 saying "we have received details from the court about you disqualification form driving for an alcohol-related offence". I didn't respond to this letter as i assumed it was a follow up to not sending my licence back to them the first time.
On 02/03/17 I had to send my insurance company my driving licence check number in order to validate my new car insurance so I logged in to the DVLA website to get the information and was presented with the information that I was in fact still banned from driving.
I immediately called the DVLA and was told that they can see that the ban has been re-applied but do not know why. I was told that my information has been passed on to their court department and that they dont know how long it will take to be looked at. I have until 06/03/17 to send my insurance company the check code or my insurance will be cancelled so that will be more hassle.
I am now going down the route of the papers with this. I contacted my local MP again but he is out of office until the 6th.
Zod said:
ToMBoMB said:
An update on this....
The DVLA called me on 04/01/17 to confirm that there had been an error and that they had wiped my record of any convictions and my licence was back to how it was before. I received a letter in the post on 06/01/17 confirming this.
I then received another letter on 23/01/17 saying "we have received details from the court about you disqualification form driving for an alcohol-related offence". I didn't respond to this letter as i assumed it was a follow up to not sending my licence back to them the first time.
On 02/03/17 I had to send my insurance company my driving licence check number in order to validate my new car insurance so I logged in to the DVLA website to get the information and was presented with the information that I was in fact still banned from driving.
I immediately called the DVLA and was told that they can see that the ban has been re-applied but do not know why. I was told that my information has been passed on to their court department and that they dont know how long it will take to be looked at. I have until 06/03/17 to send my insurance company the check code or my insurance will be cancelled so that will be more hassle.
I am now going down the route of the papers with this. I contacted my local MP again but he is out of office until the 6th.
Appalling!The DVLA called me on 04/01/17 to confirm that there had been an error and that they had wiped my record of any convictions and my licence was back to how it was before. I received a letter in the post on 06/01/17 confirming this.
I then received another letter on 23/01/17 saying "we have received details from the court about you disqualification form driving for an alcohol-related offence". I didn't respond to this letter as i assumed it was a follow up to not sending my licence back to them the first time.
On 02/03/17 I had to send my insurance company my driving licence check number in order to validate my new car insurance so I logged in to the DVLA website to get the information and was presented with the information that I was in fact still banned from driving.
I immediately called the DVLA and was told that they can see that the ban has been re-applied but do not know why. I was told that my information has been passed on to their court department and that they dont know how long it will take to be looked at. I have until 06/03/17 to send my insurance company the check code or my insurance will be cancelled so that will be more hassle.
I am now going down the route of the papers with this. I contacted my local MP again but he is out of office until the 6th.
Find you MP's twitter handle from here > https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mps/
ToMBoMB said:
An update on this....
The DVLA called me on 04/01/17 to confirm that there had been an error and that they had wiped my record of any convictions and my licence was back to how it was before. I received a letter in the post on 06/01/17 confirming this.
I then received another letter on 23/01/17 saying "we have received details from the court about you disqualification form driving for an alcohol-related offence". I didn't respond to this letter as i assumed it was a follow up to not sending my licence back to them the first time.
On 02/03/17 I had to send my insurance company my driving licence check number in order to validate my new car insurance so I logged in to the DVLA website to get the information and was presented with the information that I was in fact still banned from driving.
I immediately called the DVLA and was told that they can see that the ban has been re-applied but do not know why. I was told that my information has been passed on to their court department and that they dont know how long it will take to be looked at. I have until 06/03/17 to send my insurance company the check code or my insurance will be cancelled so that will be more hassle.
I am now going down the route of the papers with this. I contacted my local MP again but he is out of office until the 6th.
As I said earlier in the thread a more clueless bunch of f***wits than DVLA you will not find. Please make sure you take this all the way with the papers and get some people from DVLA named as at least one of them needs to be sacked and publicly humiliated for this!The DVLA called me on 04/01/17 to confirm that there had been an error and that they had wiped my record of any convictions and my licence was back to how it was before. I received a letter in the post on 06/01/17 confirming this.
I then received another letter on 23/01/17 saying "we have received details from the court about you disqualification form driving for an alcohol-related offence". I didn't respond to this letter as i assumed it was a follow up to not sending my licence back to them the first time.
On 02/03/17 I had to send my insurance company my driving licence check number in order to validate my new car insurance so I logged in to the DVLA website to get the information and was presented with the information that I was in fact still banned from driving.
I immediately called the DVLA and was told that they can see that the ban has been re-applied but do not know why. I was told that my information has been passed on to their court department and that they dont know how long it will take to be looked at. I have until 06/03/17 to send my insurance company the check code or my insurance will be cancelled so that will be more hassle.
I am now going down the route of the papers with this. I contacted my local MP again but he is out of office until the 6th.
Mammasaid said:
Exactly, get yourself on Twitter and copy in your MP in a tweet to @DVLAgovuk
Find you MP's twitter handle from here > https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mps/
Potentially much more effective to book a time at the MPs surgery and do it in person. Find you MP's twitter handle from here > https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mps/
ToMBoMB said:
An update on this....
The DVLA called me on 04/01/17 to confirm that there had been an error and that they had wiped my record of any convictions and my licence was back to how it was before. I received a letter in the post on 06/01/17 confirming this.
I then received another letter on 23/01/17 saying "we have received details from the court about you disqualification form driving for an alcohol-related offence". I didn't respond to this letter as i assumed it was a follow up to not sending my licence back to them the first time.
On 02/03/17 I had to send my insurance company my driving licence check number in order to validate my new car insurance so I logged in to the DVLA website to get the information and was presented with the information that I was in fact still banned from driving.
I immediately called the DVLA and was told that they can see that the ban has been re-applied but do not know why. I was told that my information has been passed on to their court department and that they dont know how long it will take to be looked at. I have until 06/03/17 to send my insurance company the check code or my insurance will be cancelled so that will be more hassle.
I am now going down the route of the papers with this. I contacted my local MP again but he is out of office until the 6th.
That's dreadful. The problem is they are so useless, and it's always the public who are wrong and DVLA make it so difficult to be contacted. I bet if you sent then a letter (of course it would have to be a letter) stating if they didn't sort it by a given date that you would come around and "sort them out" they would get the Police on you immediately. They need a strong court action against AN INDIVIDUAL so they can't hide behind the Corporate Identity - I suspect even if someone tried to go the legal route it wouldn't be possible at any price, and the "outgoing officer" would get a huge golden handshake. They don't live in the real commercial world.The DVLA called me on 04/01/17 to confirm that there had been an error and that they had wiped my record of any convictions and my licence was back to how it was before. I received a letter in the post on 06/01/17 confirming this.
I then received another letter on 23/01/17 saying "we have received details from the court about you disqualification form driving for an alcohol-related offence". I didn't respond to this letter as i assumed it was a follow up to not sending my licence back to them the first time.
On 02/03/17 I had to send my insurance company my driving licence check number in order to validate my new car insurance so I logged in to the DVLA website to get the information and was presented with the information that I was in fact still banned from driving.
I immediately called the DVLA and was told that they can see that the ban has been re-applied but do not know why. I was told that my information has been passed on to their court department and that they dont know how long it will take to be looked at. I have until 06/03/17 to send my insurance company the check code or my insurance will be cancelled so that will be more hassle.
I am now going down the route of the papers with this. I contacted my local MP again but he is out of office until the 6th.
ToMBoMB said:
An update on this....
The DVLA called me on 04/01/17 to confirm that there had been an error and that they had wiped my record of any convictions and my licence was back to how it was before. I received a letter in the post on 06/01/17 confirming this.
I then received another letter on 23/01/17 saying "we have received details from the court about you disqualification form driving for an alcohol-related offence". I didn't respond to this letter as i assumed it was a follow up to not sending my licence back to them the first time.
There is your mistake (I know it was all caused by the courts and DVLA). You should have responded to that letter of 23/01 enclosing a copy of the letter received 06/01 asking them to confirm it had all gone away.The DVLA called me on 04/01/17 to confirm that there had been an error and that they had wiped my record of any convictions and my licence was back to how it was before. I received a letter in the post on 06/01/17 confirming this.
I then received another letter on 23/01/17 saying "we have received details from the court about you disqualification form driving for an alcohol-related offence". I didn't respond to this letter as i assumed it was a follow up to not sending my licence back to them the first time.
KevinCamaroSS said:
ToMBoMB said:
An update on this....
The DVLA called me on 04/01/17 to confirm that there had been an error and that they had wiped my record of any convictions and my licence was back to how it was before. I received a letter in the post on 06/01/17 confirming this.
I then received another letter on 23/01/17 saying "we have received details from the court about you disqualification form driving for an alcohol-related offence". I didn't respond to this letter as i assumed it was a follow up to not sending my licence back to them the first time.
There is your mistake (I know it was all caused by the courts and DVLA). You should have responded to that letter of 23/01 enclosing a copy of the letter received 06/01 asking them to confirm it had all gone away.The DVLA called me on 04/01/17 to confirm that there had been an error and that they had wiped my record of any convictions and my licence was back to how it was before. I received a letter in the post on 06/01/17 confirming this.
I then received another letter on 23/01/17 saying "we have received details from the court about you disqualification form driving for an alcohol-related offence". I didn't respond to this letter as i assumed it was a follow up to not sending my licence back to them the first time.
Fastpedeller said:
That's dreadful. The problem is they are so useless
The point is that they aren't.They deal with umpteen million people in this country and invariably they get it right.
All my renewals etc are handled quickly and efficiently. No sweat and no drama. The fact that very occasionally in some complicated case they don't always get it quite right is not sufficient grounds for saying that they are useless.
As for someone wanting to sort an employee of DVLA out, I can only suggest that person should develop some maturity.
The Mad Monk said:
Fastpedeller said:
That's dreadful. The problem is they are so useless
The point is that they aren't.They deal with umpteen million people in this country and invariably they get it right.
All my renewals etc are handled quickly and efficiently. No sweat and no drama. The fact that very occasionally in some complicated case they don't always get it quite right is not sufficient grounds for saying that they are useless.
As for someone wanting to sort an employee of DVLA out, I can only suggest that person should develop some maturity.
The Mad Monk said:
As for someone wanting to sort an employee of DVLA out, I can only suggest that person should develop some maturity.
The point I was making was that if the victim threatened such it would galvanise some quick action - which they don't usually seem capable of. I could understand how one of DVLA's victims (can't think of a better word) could be taken to breaking point by their ineptitude.Fastpedeller said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
ToMBoMB said:
An update on this....
The DVLA called me on 04/01/17 to confirm that there had been an error and that they had wiped my record of any convictions and my licence was back to how it was before. I received a letter in the post on 06/01/17 confirming this.
I then received another letter on 23/01/17 saying "we have received details from the court about you disqualification form driving for an alcohol-related offence". I didn't respond to this letter as i assumed it was a follow up to not sending my licence back to them the first time.
There is your mistake (I know it was all caused by the courts and DVLA). You should have responded to that letter of 23/01 enclosing a copy of the letter received 06/01 asking them to confirm it had all gone away.The DVLA called me on 04/01/17 to confirm that there had been an error and that they had wiped my record of any convictions and my licence was back to how it was before. I received a letter in the post on 06/01/17 confirming this.
I then received another letter on 23/01/17 saying "we have received details from the court about you disqualification form driving for an alcohol-related offence". I didn't respond to this letter as i assumed it was a follow up to not sending my licence back to them the first time.
KevinCamaroSS said:
Partly yes. He received a letter indicating that it was still an open item which he then ignored. These things do not go away if you ignore them.
I do partly agree with you looking back at it. But can you also understand why I assumed this was corresponding to the previous ban that I had been informed was now rectified both via a telephone call and via a letter through the post two weeks prior.The Mad Monk said:
Fastpedeller said:
That's dreadful. The problem is they are so useless
The point is that they aren't.They deal with umpteen million people in this country and invariably they get it right.
All my renewals etc are handled quickly and efficiently. No sweat and no drama. The fact that very occasionally in some complicated case they don't always get it quite right is not sufficient grounds for saying that they are useless.
As for someone wanting to sort an employee of DVLA out, I can only suggest that person should develop some maturity.
k up and fail to accept any responsibility for their fk ups.As per my own other thread. I had to send a request for a V5 for my car three times as they continually failed to register it. First time I sent it normal snail mail. Second time I paid the post office £25 and handed the form in at the post office and finally I had to send yet another V62 via recorded delivery with a postal order.
Previous to that they gave away a private reg of mine when I sold my car.
They are unaccountable assholes and should be replaced..
I feel your pain. I've recently experienced a world of pain trying to sort out a fkup- basically sold a car remotely last May and for whatever reason the change of keeper was never registered, it was SORN at this time. In November the dhead private trader who bought it decided to tax it, then to cancel the tax direct debit. So I've been on the hook for that, as well as a potential Mags case as it was impounded whilst being used in November.
Got to the end of the computer says no appeal process and received a letter informing me I'll have to pay (the new keeper's) fine. Ok, ring up to pay it (phone systems not working for hours). Nice lady informs me that the Magistrates matter has been discontinued but department won't send me a letter confirming this unless I send them a letter to request it.
Oh just fk right off!
kup- basically sold a car remotely last May and for whatever reason the change of keeper was never registered, it was SORN at this time. In November the dhead private trader who bought it decided to tax it, then to cancel the tax direct debit. So I've been on the hook for that, as well as a potential Mags case as it was impounded whilst being used in November. Got to the end of the computer says no appeal process and received a letter informing me I'll have to pay (the new keeper's) fine. Ok, ring up to pay it (phone systems not working for hours). Nice lady informs me that the Magistrates matter has been discontinued but department won't send me a letter confirming this unless I send them a letter to request it.
Oh just f
k right off!ToMBoMB said:
Strange how they haven't written to me to inform me that ive been paying my car tax in to them every month even though i'm banned. Im getting a bit salty over things now 
(the irony)
They wont. They stopped taking my Tax for my car and didn't bother telling me and then after I was clamped sent me a fine of £207. (the irony)They are 100% inept.
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