Using a mobile phone whilst driving - they got me!
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Boosted LS1 said:
Could be.. maybe not.
I understand that undue care and attention catered for all sorts of offences in the past. I don't understand why there is a specific offence that relates to mobile phones unless of course there is significant data to support it. I'm pretty neutral on the subject and wonder if it's being sold to us in the same way as the 'speed kills' mantra.
Driver wondered on a slight left hand bend, ie: went straight on for no reason.I understand that undue care and attention catered for all sorts of offences in the past. I don't understand why there is a specific offence that relates to mobile phones unless of course there is significant data to support it. I'm pretty neutral on the subject and wonder if it's being sold to us in the same way as the 'speed kills' mantra.
Boosted LS1 said:
Out of interest, how many deaths are attributable to mobile phone usage? I see so many people on the phone these days I've given up getting annoyed. It's become the norm. It's an irritation if the car at the lights doesn't pull away promptly but I've not seen death or carnage from phone users, speeders or drink drivers in over 40 years of driving. I've never seen a bad smash, let alone a fatality.
How do you think cars drift lanes? If you cycle you see alot nodding - probably 50% attention. It's not rocket science.rewc said:
Dorset Police have stopped offering courses for mobile phone offences. They were generally castigated for 'down grading' the offence especially after the A34 lorry driver tragedy. The Government have announced that the tougher penalties will come in during the first half of 2017.
Not sure where you've heard that about Dorset stopping giving courses for mobiles, but you are wrong. Still give them (long as you haven't done one in the last three years). Edited by rewc on Thursday 12th January 15:29
At the moment it's still £100 fine and three points. Think it's March/April that it's going up from what I've read.
Boosted LS1 said:
Could be.. maybe not.
I understand that undue care and attention catered for all sorts of offences in the past. I don't understand why there is a specific offence that relates to mobile phones unless of course there is significant data to support it. I'm pretty neutral on the subject and wonder if it's being sold to us in the same way as the 'speed kills' mantra.
Looks like it's costing us 213 lives a year:I understand that undue care and attention catered for all sorts of offences in the past. I don't understand why there is a specific offence that relates to mobile phones unless of course there is significant data to support it. I'm pretty neutral on the subject and wonder if it's being sold to us in the same way as the 'speed kills' mantra.
https://www.tyre-shopper.co.uk/texting-while-drivi...
the site is a tyre supplier but it quotes its sources at the bottom - they're reputable
Boosted LS1 said:
Out of interest, how many deaths are attributable to mobile phone usage? I see so many people on the phone these days I've given up getting annoyed. It's become the norm. It's an irritation if the car at the lights doesn't pull away promptly but I've not seen death or carnage from phone users, speeders or drink drivers in over 40 years of driving. I've never seen a bad smash, let alone a fatality.
I guess this didn't really happen then?: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/oct/31/lo...
(Try watching the footage in the link!)
Being devils advocate, he actually says he had NEVER SEEN a fatal accident, not that there has ever been one, its just that he has never been near one.
Mind you i wonder where he lives if he have never ever seen a bad crash. some island where there is one car,
In my 50 years driving I have seen plenty, and it isnt nice, both the beginning where you know it isnt going to end nice, and passing through the wreckage while they are cutting the bodies out, ( back in the 60's where they just got on with it)
Mind you i wonder where he lives if he have never ever seen a bad crash. some island where there is one car,
In my 50 years driving I have seen plenty, and it isnt nice, both the beginning where you know it isnt going to end nice, and passing through the wreckage while they are cutting the bodies out, ( back in the 60's where they just got on with it)
Edited by silverfoxcc on Friday 13th January 21:50
Gavia said:
Boosted LS1 said:
^ Are you getting all emotional? I'd prefer to look at the statistics.
I'm with you. Except I disagree with drink driving laws. Let's join forces and try to get rid of both sets of laws Boosted LS1 said:
Gavia said:
Boosted LS1 said:
^ Are you getting all emotional? I'd prefer to look at the statistics.
I'm with you. Except I disagree with drink driving laws. Let's join forces and try to get rid of both sets of laws I still agree with you, except I'm being honest about my views.
Gavia said:
Boosted LS1 said:
Gavia said:
Boosted LS1 said:
^ Are you getting all emotional? I'd prefer to look at the statistics.
I'm with you. Except I disagree with drink driving laws. Let's join forces and try to get rid of both sets of laws I still agree with you, except I'm being honest about my views.
Troll.
amancalledrob said:
Looks like it's costing us 213 lives a year:
https://www.tyre-shopper.co.uk/texting-while-drivi...
the site is a tyre supplier but it quotes its sources at the bottom - they're reputable
A truly awful 'article', to be fair - poor grammar, spelling mistakes and incorrect information throughout.https://www.tyre-shopper.co.uk/texting-while-drivi...
the site is a tyre supplier but it quotes its sources at the bottom - they're reputable
The official Govt. figures state there were 22 fatalities during 2015 where mobile phone use was a contributory factor - a very similar number to those who die each year from falling out of bed.
amancalledrob said:
Looks like it's costing us 213 lives a year:
https://www.tyre-shopper.co.uk/texting-while-drivi...
the site is a tyre supplier but it quotes its sources at the bottom - they're reputable
That link doesn't go anywhere. What's wrong?https://www.tyre-shopper.co.uk/texting-while-drivi...
the site is a tyre supplier but it quotes its sources at the bottom - they're reputable
Even making a call with integrated Bluetooth is distraction enough IMO. I do it but I know I take my eyes off the road when looking at the directory even if it is only momentary.
However if you take it to extreme, whatever is going through your head whilst driving can also be a massive distraction.
I was driving up north for about 170 miles (M5/M6) the other day to see a relative who is terminally ill with only a couple of weeks left. I found it really difficult to concentrate on the road because of my state of mind.
However if you take it to extreme, whatever is going through your head whilst driving can also be a massive distraction.
I was driving up north for about 170 miles (M5/M6) the other day to see a relative who is terminally ill with only a couple of weeks left. I found it really difficult to concentrate on the road because of my state of mind.
Boosted LS1 said:
Out of interest, how many deaths are attributable to mobile phone usage? I see so many people on the phone these days I've given up getting annoyed. It's become the norm. It's an irritation if the car at the lights doesn't pull away promptly but I've not seen death or carnage from phone users, speeders or drink drivers in over 40 years of driving. I've never seen a bad smash, let alone a fatality.
You must surely have seen the results of a bad smash.Bright Halo said:
Even making a call with integrated Bluetooth is distraction enough IMO.
It's not just your opinion. The science agrees. It also says that voice recognition is even worse.Many people who complain about hand held phone users will happily use hands free and voice recognition, oblivious to how dangerous their actions are.
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