You do NOT own the parking space outside your residence.

You do NOT own the parking space outside your residence.

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herewego

8,814 posts

214 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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disastra98 said:
Cheers M-Sportmatt for kindly pointing out that him parking like this is to teach me a lesson on the dangers of
parking badly on my drive.

My mental issues aside you assume the car goes in this way for ease, What if the passenger has mobility issues and
if the car is reversed in then the door could not be fully opened so they could get out.

The original query was cannot legally parked still be an obstruction not am I a knob for parking on my drive incorrectly.

It's not my space, I do not own it I have no claim to it. Just asking for a little bit of consideration that is all.
I'd be a bit tempted to park my own car there. For some reason I don't find large vans appropriate for residential areas.

littlebasher

3,782 posts

172 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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disastra98 said:
I know I do own the space outside my house but I find this to be unacceptable parking making getting off the drive a little awkward.



Until recently it would be parked like this but the other way around. Have had a polite word a couple of times with chap
and to be fair he did seem reasonable and did start to park better but over a few days it goes back to this.

So is it causing an obstruction like somebody posted earlier in the thread or is legally parked and therefore cannot be
causing an obstruction as somebody else suggested.


Edited by disastra98 on Monday 13th March 15:59
I had a similar problem a long time ago - resolved in two stages

Firstly, i bought a cheap car off Gumtree with tax & MOT - insured it and then parked it in the same spot but further back.

Secondly, i turned the other half of the drive into parking & paid the council to extend the dropped kerb.

It pushed the problem further down the street, but not outside my house!

Trabi601

4,865 posts

96 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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Judging by this thread, civil war will break out in 20 or so years when people are fighting over the charging sockets!

eldar

21,795 posts

197 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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disastra98 said:
Cheers M-Sportmatt for kindly pointing out that him parking like this is to teach me a lesson on the dangers of
parking badly on my drive.

My mental issues aside you assume the car goes in this way for ease, What if the passenger has mobility issues and
if the car is reversed in then the door could not be fully opened so they could get out.

The original query was cannot legally parked still be an obstruction not am I a knob for parking on my drive incorrectly.

It's not my space, I do not own it I have no claim to it. Just asking for a little bit of consideration that is all.
Buy a couple of tins of anchovies. Mince them really fine then mix with yoghurt, and stick it in the heater vent.

Prohibiting

1,741 posts

119 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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the wicker man said:
disastra98 said:
I know I do own the space outside my house but I find this to be unacceptable parking making getting off the drive a little awkward.



Until recently it would be parked like this but the other way around. Have had a polite word a couple of times with chap
and to be fair he did seem reasonable and did start to park better but over a few days it goes back to this.

So is it causing an obstruction like somebody posted earlier in the thread or is legally parked and therefore cannot be
causing an obstruction as somebody else suggested.


Edited by disastra98 on Monday 13th March 15:59
wow that could be my house everyday for the last 4 years & my twit of a neighbor next door who parks his van just like that next to the end of my drive making it almost impossible to see out of the drive or turn left out of my drive (narrow road) ive asked him countless times to park nicer but to no avail

i now make it my mission in my beat up run around car to have a good crack everytime i go anywhere to take the side off his fking van
To be fair, if that was me and funds were available, I'd fork up £3k or however much it would cost to turn the grassed area into another parking space and get the council to drop the kerb as someone has already mentioned. It would drive me mad otherwise.


Edited by Prohibiting on Monday 13th March 19:50

MJ85

1,849 posts

175 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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I got told by a neighbour that I should leave the road outside my house free for another neighbour to use, because "David should be able to park opposite his house". frown

Mandalore

4,220 posts

114 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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Prohibiting said:
the wicker man said:
disastra98 said:
I know I do own the space outside my house but I find this to be unacceptable parking making getting off the drive a little awkward.



Until recently it would be parked like this but the other way around. Have had a polite word a couple of times with chap
and to be fair he did seem reasonable and did start to park better but over a few days it goes back to this.

So is it causing an obstruction like somebody posted earlier in the thread or is legally parked and therefore cannot be
causing an obstruction as somebody else suggested.


Edited by disastra98 on Monday 13th March 15:59
wow that could be my house everyday for the last 4 years & my twit of a neighbor next door who parks his van just like that next to the end of my drive making it almost impossible to see out of the drive or turn left out of my drive (narrow road) ive asked him countless times to park nicer but to no avail

i now make it my mission in my beat up run around car to have a good crack everytime i go anywhere to take the side off his fking van
To be fair, if that was me and funds were available, I'd fork up £3k or however much it would cost to turn the grassed area into another parking space and get the council to drop the kerb as someone has already mentioned. It would drive me mad otherwise.


Edited by Prohibiting on Monday 13th March 19:50
To be fair.

No-nuts only parks there because his wife doesn't like it being parked outside their own house.

Plus, it makes it hard for her to get their used RRS off the driveway for the daily 500m trip to the local school.



hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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Prohibiting said:
To be fair, if that was me and funds were available, I'd fork up £3k or however much it would cost to turn the grassed area into another parking space and get the council to drop the kerb as someone has already mentioned. It would drive me mad otherwise.


Edited by Prohibiting on Monday 13th March 19:50
yes


Edited by hyphen on Monday 13th March 22:12

M-SportMatt

1,923 posts

139 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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disastra98 said:
Cheers M-Sportmatt for kindly pointing out that him parking like this is to teach me a lesson on the dangers of
parking badly on my drive.

My mental issues aside you assume the car goes in this way for ease, What if the passenger has mobility issues and
if the car is reversed in then the door could not be fully opened so they could get out.

The original query was cannot legally parked still be an obstruction not am I a knob for parking on my drive incorrectly.

It's not my space, I do not own it I have no claim to it. Just asking for a little bit of consideration that is all.
You don't park nose in for mobility reasons

You stated reversing is the same as coming out forwards

The van driver can't behave to cause you inconvenience and a potential hazard but you can reverse off your drive and do that rather than drive out forwards.

Ps. Just tell your disabled passenger to sit in the back ;-)


Edited by M-SportMatt on Monday 13th March 22:08

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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herewego said:
I'd be a bit tempted to park my own car there. For some reason I don't find large vans appropriate for residential areas.
So where should the van owners self employed or not park their vans ?
I used to take the kid to inner city Stockport for a sports match once every weekend evening and the surrounding residential streets were like a a van auction site, where would you suggest they are parked bearing in mind "no tools are kept in the vehicle overnight".
Drag all their tools miles home ? Or drop tools at home go to your "van park" walk home then repeat in reverse every day.

Trabi601

4,865 posts

96 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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speedyguy said:
So where should the van owners self employed or not park their vans ?
I used to take the kid to inner city Stockport for a sports match once every weekend evening and the surrounding residential streets were like a a van auction site, where would you suggest they are parked bearing in mind "no tools are kept in the vehicle overnight".
Drag all their tools miles home ? Or drop tools at home go to your "van park" walk home then repeat in reverse every day.
Some developments have covenants to stop them being littered with commercial vehicles.

The most restrictive ban them completely. The more lenient stipulate parking on the owner's drive. The latter seems a sensible solution. Nobody wants someone else's van parked outside their house because the owner doesn't like it parked outside theirs!

egor110

16,878 posts

204 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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Trabi601 said:
speedyguy said:
So where should the van owners self employed or not park their vans ?
I used to take the kid to inner city Stockport for a sports match once every weekend evening and the surrounding residential streets were like a a van auction site, where would you suggest they are parked bearing in mind "no tools are kept in the vehicle overnight".
Drag all their tools miles home ? Or drop tools at home go to your "van park" walk home then repeat in reverse every day.
Some developments have covenants to stop them being littered with commercial vehicles.

The most restrictive ban them completely. The more lenient stipulate parking on the owner's drive. The latter seems a sensible solution. Nobody wants someone else's van parked outside their house because the owner doesn't like it parked outside theirs!
And some don't have those covenants.

Fact is our residential roads are going to get more congested as children grow up , pass there driving test but can't afford to move out.

The kind of people bleating about it on a forum are just going to have to get used to it , the sort of people who will slash your tyres/put a brick thru the window aren't going to be moaning to strangers on a forum.

Mopey

2,396 posts

156 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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Why don't you just park your car where his van is. I'm sure he will get the jist...

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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Trabi601 said:
Some developments have covenants to stop them being littered with commercial vehicles.
Define 'commercial', with stickers and advertising or just like the white van 'commercial' in DVSA's eyes?
Anyway the developments i was referring to are bog standard residential highway adopted streets not 'estate' streets which may or may not be LA adopted i cannot see the LA putting "no overnight parking" or 1Ton limits to prevent this behaviour to which I can't see an answer to.
I noticed you bodyswerved coming up with an alternative solution smile
Thank fooook I've left my job trying to sort out some of Englands hgv parking issues that everyone complains about but no one wants to pay for smile

Trabi601

4,865 posts

96 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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speedyguy said:
Define 'commercial', with stickers and advertising or just like the white van 'commercial' in DVSA's eyes?
Anyway the developments i was referring to are bog standard residential highway adopted streets not 'estate' streets which may or may not be LA adopted i cannot see the LA putting "no overnight parking" or 1Ton limits to prevent this behaviour to which I can't see an answer to.
I noticed you bodyswerved coming up with an alternative solution smile
Thank fooook I've left my job trying to sort out some of Englands hgv parking issues that everyone complains about but no one wants to pay for smile
The alternative solution is actually in my post - any signwritten vehicle or white van (non car derived) has to be parked on the owner's property. Solves the problem of LWB high-top Sprinters being ditched outside other people's houses. Because, despite what everyone posts on here, nobody would actually want to live with that.

egor110

16,878 posts

204 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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Trabi601 said:
speedyguy said:
Define 'commercial', with stickers and advertising or just like the white van 'commercial' in DVSA's eyes?
Anyway the developments i was referring to are bog standard residential highway adopted streets not 'estate' streets which may or may not be LA adopted i cannot see the LA putting "no overnight parking" or 1Ton limits to prevent this behaviour to which I can't see an answer to.
I noticed you bodyswerved coming up with an alternative solution smile
Thank fooook I've left my job trying to sort out some of Englands hgv parking issues that everyone complains about but no one wants to pay for smile
The alternative solution is actually in my post - any signwritten vehicle or white van (non car derived) has to be parked on the owner's property. Solves the problem of LWB high-top Sprinters being ditched outside other people's houses. Because, despite what everyone posts on here, nobody would actually want to live with that.
So any non white van is ok to park outside then ?


Trabi601

4,865 posts

96 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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egor110 said:
So any non white van is ok to park outside then ?
Don't be such a pedantic tt.

Nobody wants a fecking great van parked outside their house, just because the owner doesn't like it parked outside their house.

'I'm alright Jack' isn't a nice way to live. Have some consideration for others - I'd feel like a right if I parked a van as in the photo. If I have to park something in a place that encroaches on the frontage of a neighbour's house, I knock on their door and apologise. Maybe I'm just too considerate for modern society.

disastra98

112 posts

102 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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Could I also point out his empty driveway in the photo and that there is nothing parked behind the van.
Like I have mentioned it would be nice just show a little more consideration.

It will probably be there for the rest of the week now before it moves again, Seems to use it for an hour
at the weekend and then it gets parked up and left.

Edited by disastra98 on Tuesday 14th March 01:06

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

136 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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disastra98 said:
I know I do own the space outside my house but I find this to be unacceptable parking making getting off the drive a little awkward.



Until recently it would be parked like this but the other way around. Have had a polite word a couple of times with chap
and to be fair he did seem reasonable and did start to park better but over a few days it goes back to this.

So is it causing an obstruction like somebody posted earlier in the thread or is legally parked and therefore cannot be
causing an obstruction as somebody else suggested.


Edited by disastra98 on Monday 13th March 15:59
Having a van parked in full view of your window is so annoying that the guy opposite is moving house.

Surely the answer is to buy a taxed MOT'd Luton Transit, signwrite it with
"Enjoy the view" and then park it in front of their house.
And hammer a frozen MX5 in to his lawn or something.



egor110

16,878 posts

204 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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Trabi601 said:
egor110 said:
So any non white van is ok to park outside then ?
Don't be such a pedantic tt.

Nobody wants a fecking great van parked outside their house, just because the owner doesn't like it parked outside their house.

'I'm alright Jack' isn't a nice way to live. Have some consideration for others - I'd feel like a right if I parked a van as in the photo. If I have to park something in a place that encroaches on the frontage of a neighbour's house, I knock on their door and apologise. Maybe I'm just too considerate for modern society.
But lets be realistic other than having a moan on a forum you have to face facts.

If his white vans taxed , insured and there isn't a covenant then you have 2 options.

1- park one of your cars there and reclaim the space

2- have a word with him , although if he turns round and tells you the vans legally parked on the road so get fked then you've backed yourself into a corner , then what?

As to is the van driver selfish then yes he probably is but if he's finished work and somebody is parked in front of his house then it's obviously going to have a knock on effect, if people are parking in your street and to save on paying for parking ( this happened to me when we lived near to a station) then again this going to have a knock on effect.