Is Volvo getting back into the police car game?

[berlintaxi]

wildcat45 said:

Thanks for that. It looks great in police livery.

Looks great in any paint, reckon Volvo have got a real winner with the new V90.

[jogger1976]

RogueTrooper said:

Bristol spark said:

Then fit a bigger Gas tank.

Currently in the US

If only we had their fuel prices.

Our diesel X5s average something like 22mpg and if driven during a particularly busy shift can use quarter of a tank in <60 miles.

The 3- and 5-series tourers fare a little better.

That's shocking!
I'm guessing that's down to a combination of weight, excessive idling and high speed driving for pursuits? BTW, what were the petrol equivalents getting?

[RogueTrooper]

jogger1976 said:

That's shocking!
I'm guessing that's down to a combination of weight, excessive idling and high speed driving for pursuits? BTW, what were the petrol equivalents getting?

It's weight and speed - not necessarily pursuits, but generally responding to incidents which can be 15-30 miles away.

I have never driven a petrol engined traffic car, we haven't had any in the last ten years, but anecdotally they needed filling up more often than twice a day.

[Matthen]

jith said:

SystemParanoia said:

Bigends said:

RogueTrooper said:

Bigends said:

He anticipates the fleet converting from diesel to petrol in the not too distant future

Do you know of any reason why, that you can share?

I recall it was to do with emissions - diesels having reached the limit s of potential emissions reduction

the police always talk about fuel burn, and hours between refills.
never emissions or lentil eating nonsense like that

diesels take longer to empty their tanks.

The bubble is about to burst on the whole diesel nonsense. These engines are seriously dangerous to health and they should never have been promoted as an alternative to petrol cars in the first place. The problem is the EU car manufacturers and governments are going to have to admit they got it wrong big time. The only reason it hasn't surfaced yet is all the other problems in Europe and here that have commanded attention, but it will.

J

Seriously dangerous to public health? Not really. Not ideal, but not "seriously dangerous" - the stuff that comes out of a modern diesel is fairy dust compared to the coal dust from all the chimneys that used to be in the city. Besides, the demise of diesel will be combined with that of petrol - petrol is not a magically clean fuel, and its exhaust emissions are just as bad, although in different ways.

The demise of any type of IC engine is not something to cheer about - we'll all be left with soulless, boring, electric cars - or worse, bicycles and buses.

[SystemParanoia]

Is that so bad ?

TT Zero

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Sportidge said:

You would guess correctly

Before anyone complains about the parking that photo is within the compound of the firearms hq at Follingsby Park.

[tannhauser]

Kawasicki said:

For a big car I also remember reading somewhere that they don't take much load. Nice looking though, apart from small wheels.

Small wheels!

[jith]

Matthen said:

jith said:

SystemParanoia said:

Bigends said:

RogueTrooper said:

Bigends said:

He anticipates the fleet converting from diesel to petrol in the not too distant future

Do you know of any reason why, that you can share?

I recall it was to do with emissions - diesels having reached the limit s of potential emissions reduction

the police always talk about fuel burn, and hours between refills.
never emissions or lentil eating nonsense like that

diesels take longer to empty their tanks.

The bubble is about to burst on the whole diesel nonsense. These engines are seriously dangerous to health and they should never have been promoted as an alternative to petrol cars in the first place. The problem is the EU car manufacturers and governments are going to have to admit they got it wrong big time. The only reason it hasn't surfaced yet is all the other problems in Europe and here that have commanded attention, but it will.

J

Seriously dangerous to public health? Not really. Not ideal, but not "seriously dangerous" - the stuff that comes out of a modern diesel is fairy dust compared to the coal dust from all the chimneys that used to be in the city. Besides, the demise of diesel will be combined with that of petrol - petrol is not a magically clean fuel, and its exhaust emissions are just as bad, although in different ways.

The demise of any type of IC engine is not something to cheer about - we'll all be left with soulless, boring, electric cars - or worse, bicycles and buses.

I can't deal with this in detail just now as I have to go out, but you cannot be more wrong. There is finally an admission from many agencies that diesel is highly toxic and carcinogenic, particularly in the amounts being released into the atmosphere through the huge escalation in diesel cars over the past few years. I'll come back later with the details.

J

[jogger1976]

Seems to handle OK for a big old barge.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy2CDN0vBOM

[Ninja59]

jith said:

I can't deal with this in detail just now as I have to go out, but you cannot be more wrong. There is finally an admission from many agencies that diesel is highly toxic and carcinogenic, particularly in the amounts being released into the atmosphere through the huge escalation in diesel cars over the past few years. I'll come back later with the details.

J

Particulates are the risk to human health and were classed as cancer causing. The only reason diesels got caught up in it were down to incomplete combustion and when first announced by the WHO direct injection petrols were still rare.

Euro 6 actually saw a limit for petrol particulates introduced due to increasing amounts of direct injection petrols resulting in higher mpg but higher levels of particulates as direct injection results in incomplete combustion.

ADAC studies just after 2010 showed that direct injection petrols with fuel injected at poor angles produced particulates smaller than diesel. The smaller particulates are harder to filter and also more harmful to human health. Better aligned fuel injection will result in less particulates but direct injection petrols do produce particulates.

NOx is still a major problem specifically for diesels mind....hence the increase in SCR etc.

[focusxr5]

That V90 is a demo car from Volvo just doing the rounds. It spent a few days with the ARV fleet but those who drove it deemed it a bit wallowy and not the best pull from the engine. After the last few years of the ARV's being lumbered with the absolutely dreadful Volvo XC70's (which are slow, don't handle, are especially awful in the wet, and hideously unreliable) I doubt that Volvo will have any future business from Northumbria. They were blowing engines after as little as 20k miles. I know you can't compare the general drive due to them being 2 totally different models, but the difference in reliability and build quality between the old S60 T5's and the XC70 is just like night and day. The XC70's are by far and away the worst ARV ever to grace the fleet. Thankfully the new fleet of BMW X5's are due to start arriving any day now to replace the XC70s.

[exelero]

We have PK66 Volvos too. But they are lorries

[Cold]

jogger1976 said:

Seems to handle OK for a big old barge.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy2CDN0vBOM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6QqDdRaLUY