Parking - the private enforcers got me!

[surveyor_101]

spikyone said:

* I will say I'm not entirely persuaded by arguments of "I was still in the car so I wasn't parked" - because a) most people would say that they were parked whilst stopped at the side of the road using a mobile phone, and b) there has to be some point at which being "stopped in a car park" becomes being "parked", and there is (in theory at least) a grace period allowed for stopping.

The defo says you have to leave the vehicle>

park
pɑːk/Submit
verb
past tense: parked; past participle: parked
bring (a vehicle that one is driving) to a halt and LEAVE IT temporarily, typically in a car park or by the side of the road.

[fatjon]

Dixy said:

The yellow lines are a red herring, its private land. You were not parked you were waiting and ther fore did not breach the only park in marked bays.

^ this. Dead easy, you pulled up to wait for a space big enough for your barge, quite legitimate they have no leg to stand on. Don't just cough up like the pussies are encouraging you to do. If everyone just stopped allowing themselves to be fked over these arse holes would be out of business in 6 months.

[spikyone]

surveyor_101 said:

The defo says you have to leave the vehicle>

park
p??k/Submit
verb
past tense: parked; past participle: parked
bring (a vehicle that one is driving) to a halt and LEAVE IT temporarily, typically in a car park or by the side of the road.

It's not as clear cut as taking a single dictionary's definition that suits your perspective though, particularly when the word "leave" can be interpreted as 'allowing something to remain in a place' as well as 'to vacate' (e.g. "I'm going to leave my keys on the desk next to me"). The OED definition does not require that the car is left, and allows that it is simply placed there as an alternative:
"To place or leave (a vehicle) in a designated parking area, at the side of a road, etc."

It's an easier argument to make that you were stopped rather than parked if you're stationary at the side of the road, but if you've taken your car to a car park with the intention of stopping there for any purpose, it's difficult to argue that it wasn't parked whilst it was stationary.

And besides, we've all seen Back to the Future. Marty's hot 1955 mum definitely did not want to leave the car when she suggested they park...

[Ken Figenus]

Red Devil said:

 * @ OP. You say you parked outside JD Sports but the shop in your pic is Sports Direct.
    Where is the sign you posted situated in relation to where you parked on the DYL (i.e. ground plan)?
    Did you drive past any other one/s to get there?

I shot a video to see if I missed anything obvious on approach and should just take the slap... But there is nothing more than the small print signs i posted that you would have to get out of the car to read.

I stopped outside Sports Direct - JD was a couple of units to the right of where I stopped. The sign I took a pic of was the one behind the car when waiting outside Sports Direct. The sign was not visible or readable from the car.

A kind PH'er suggested it may be Schroders Asset Managers that own the land?

[Red Devil]

Ken Figenus said:

A kind PH'er suggested it may be Schroders Asset Managers that own the land?

Don't think so - http://www.b2bmortgage.co.uk/news/property-develop...
No idea if the buyer still has it in their portfolio.

National Australia Bank acquired a majority shareholding in Orchard in 2014
https://realestate.ipe.com/news/fund-management/na...

[elanfan]

From the above link:

The retail park has been purchased for a £54.5 million fee from Invista Real Estate Investment Management and Schroders in a transaction that reflected a net initial yield of 6.25 per cent.

So it did belong to Schroders

[Red Devil]

elanfan said:

So it did belong to Schroders

Yes, over five and a half years ago, so hardly relevant now.
http://www.orchard-street.co.uk/news/orchard-stree...

[brrapp]

Ken Figenus said:

A kind PH'er suggested it may be Schroders Asset Managers that own the land?

Maybe it's Schrödinger's Asset Management who own it? If you get out of your car to read the signs then you are parked , if you don't get out of your car then you can't read the signs so you don't know if you're parked.;)