Caught at 100mph on m25
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DT398 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
The education system has a lot to answer for.
Or maybe English isn't the OP's first language? 
kiethton said:
Not necessarily a ban...
I was pulled over by an unmarked car on the M25 11 months ago, was in Guildford Mag's court in September. My recorded speed was 105-110mph (105 on the paperwork), I also received a S59 at the same time. I walked away with 6 points and a fine equivalent to ~30% of true gross weekly income, 1.2x net weekly income declared (true income tweaked via salary sacrifice in the month leading up to the court date so could be proved if required - in reality never questioned).
Speak to AGTLaw on here, he sorted out my mitigation statement for a very reasonable fee which I simply read out in court.
I did have a clean license prior though (beyond another SP50, 3 points ~5-6 years before)
Well done on admitting to perverting the course of justice on a public forum I was pulled over by an unmarked car on the M25 11 months ago, was in Guildford Mag's court in September. My recorded speed was 105-110mph (105 on the paperwork), I also received a S59 at the same time. I walked away with 6 points and a fine equivalent to ~30% of true gross weekly income, 1.2x net weekly income declared (true income tweaked via salary sacrifice in the month leading up to the court date so could be proved if required - in reality never questioned).
Speak to AGTLaw on here, he sorted out my mitigation statement for a very reasonable fee which I simply read out in court.
I did have a clean license prior though (beyond another SP50, 3 points ~5-6 years before)
Soov535 said:
kiethton said:
Not necessarily a ban...
I was pulled over by an unmarked car on the M25 11 months ago, was in Guildford Mag's court in September. My recorded speed was 105-110mph (105 on the paperwork), I also received a S59 at the same time. I walked away with 6 points and a fine equivalent to ~30% of true gross weekly income, 1.2x net weekly income declared (true income tweaked via salary sacrifice in the month leading up to the court date so could be proved if required - in reality never questioned).
Speak to AGTLaw on here, he sorted out my mitigation statement for a very reasonable fee which I simply read out in court.
I did have a clean license prior though (beyond another SP50, 3 points ~5-6 years before)
Well done on admitting to perverting the course of justice on a public forum I was pulled over by an unmarked car on the M25 11 months ago, was in Guildford Mag's court in September. My recorded speed was 105-110mph (105 on the paperwork), I also received a S59 at the same time. I walked away with 6 points and a fine equivalent to ~30% of true gross weekly income, 1.2x net weekly income declared (true income tweaked via salary sacrifice in the month leading up to the court date so could be proved if required - in reality never questioned).
Speak to AGTLaw on here, he sorted out my mitigation statement for a very reasonable fee which I simply read out in court.
I did have a clean license prior though (beyond another SP50, 3 points ~5-6 years before)
It's not - my actual income (funds received though the course of my employment) was correctly stated and could be proven. The documents ask for net earnings. Pension contributions, cycle to work scheme payments, salary sacrifice vouchers etc. come from your gross income....I declared my net as required. There is nothing at all wrong in mitigating any outcome.
If its any consolation OP, I got booked at 102mph on the M5 last night. Undercover car which followed me at a distance and then closed in for the tug. I was cruising behind an Audi A6 keeping the same speed so guess it was my turn to take one for the team. He played me the video in his car and said I'd get a summons in a number of months time.
marting said:
According to this http://www.drivingban.co.uk/drivingban/speedingoff... over 100mph is a ban, were you over or exactly 100?
A risk, yes, but not automatic. He should be grateful it is in E&W. Many Scottish courts tend to be less forgiving.cat220 said:
I've always thought 100mph or over and its an automatic ban.
Another of those urban myths.cat220 said:
Perhaps having a clean license for the best part of 10 years, needing your license for your job and finally being a carer for your mum may give you some leverage. As others have said, i'd recommend seeking specialist legal advice.
I reckon being his mum's carer is the best card to play. The court will be more sympathetic towards hardship to another than the OP himself.cbmotorsport said:
If I were you I would plead guilty, but not attend court (you don't have to). Write a letter apologising for not attending due to work commitments, be very apologetic abut the offence, and if you can include letters from anyone who would be affected by you not having a licence that carries weight.
Often if you're on the cusp of a ban and do not attend in person, they will give you points. They cannot ban you unless you attend, which would mean rescheduling the hearing. They're not keen to do this generally as the system is already strained and more often than not they like to conclude matters on the day.
Good strategy. He'll find out soon enough whether a ban is on the table. Happened to a friend of mine who got pinged on a fast, well sighted, s/c A road in the Highlands. He escaped without a ban but was hit with a hefty fine and 6 points. Plus the cost of getting there and back (not cheap!).Often if you're on the cusp of a ban and do not attend in person, they will give you points. They cannot ban you unless you attend, which would mean rescheduling the hearing. They're not keen to do this generally as the system is already strained and more often than not they like to conclude matters on the day.
kiethton said:
Already had this discussion on the other thread.....
It's not - my actual income (funds received though the course of my employment) was correctly stated and could be proven. The documents ask for net earnings. Pension contributions, cycle to work scheme payments, salary sacrifice vouchers etc. come from your gross income....I declared my net as required. There is nothing at all wrong in mitigating any outcome.
Unless you declared your annual net income divided by 52 or 12 (weeks or months) then you did not declare your true net income, merely a figure artificially massaged to reduce your net figure. So, yes, that would indeed be perverting the course of justice.It's not - my actual income (funds received though the course of my employment) was correctly stated and could be proven. The documents ask for net earnings. Pension contributions, cycle to work scheme payments, salary sacrifice vouchers etc. come from your gross income....I declared my net as required. There is nothing at all wrong in mitigating any outcome.
I keep my eyes open and read what goes through our local courts courtesy of the local paper.
Lots of people seem to get away at 100+, I don't know their circumstances but there seems to be a couple per month. E.g.
Speeding
33, of The Galleries, Warley was fined £530, given six penalty points, and ordered to pay victim surcharge of £53 and £85 costs for driving along the M25 at Epping at a speed of 107mph, in excess of the 70mph speed limit.
Read more at http://www.essexlive.news/who-has-been-in-court-fr...
If you want to you can search the paper and find more.
Lots of people seem to get away at 100+, I don't know their circumstances but there seems to be a couple per month. E.g.
Speeding
33, of The Galleries, Warley was fined £530, given six penalty points, and ordered to pay victim surcharge of £53 and £85 costs for driving along the M25 at Epping at a speed of 107mph, in excess of the 70mph speed limit.
Read more at http://www.essexlive.news/who-has-been-in-court-fr...
If you want to you can search the paper and find more.
Fizwan said:
im the only named driver on the motability car and the carer for my mum. i dont have any children. if i loose my license i will mostly likely loose the job because i need it for work, would they take that into consideration? im a looking at a ban anyone had any similar experience
I bet your Mum's really impressed that you put your love of speed before her needs!Fizwan said:
im a security officer at an airport and part of my job is to partol the runways in a car
Did you forget this while you were knowingly breaking the law?You knew the risks you were running by speeding and also the possible outcome. Now you have to face up to the consequences!
Alucidnation said:
Who, in their right mind would think that travelling at 100mph is ok, especially on the M25 that probably has the most speed cameras than anywhere else with plenty of signage to warn of that fact?
It's not as if they are a new idea either.
I think travelling at 100mph is perfectly OK , and a fair bit more too if it makes any difference.It's not as if they are a new idea either.
As to Fizwan, provided you haven't told any fibs or massaged the details then you are very unlikely to get a ban unless you upset the Magistrates either by letter or in person. 6 points and a fine that won't scare you is odds on.
PoleDriver said:
Fizwan said:
im the only named driver on the motability car and the carer for my mum. i dont have any children. if i loose my license i will mostly likely loose the job because i need it for work, would they take that into consideration? im a looking at a ban anyone had any similar experience
I bet your Mum's really impressed that you put your love of speed before her needs!Fizwan said:
im a security officer at an airport and part of my job is to partol the runways in a car
Did you forget this while you were knowingly breaking the law?You knew the risks you were running by speeding and also the possible outcome. Now you have to face up to the consequences!
Sgt Bilko said:
I'd be having a chat with your security office to see how a driving ban would affect your airside security clearance once you get your license back (assuming you are kept on in some other capacity if you do get banned).
I hope he doesn't take your advice unless his boss is his dad. He shouldn't say anything at work until after the sentencing unless a court appearance is necessary and he is unable to avoid telling them for some reason.If he needs to unload, he can tell a solicitor, a mate he doesn't work with, his mum or a priest.
Fizwan said:
Hi everyone.
I got caught doing 100 on m25 by them new speed cameras last year. Today i got a letter from the essex police asking to plea guilty or not guilty (bare in mind this is not the NIP). After looking on the internet, I understand that i looking at a ban. I have had a clean driving record this is my first offence. Im starting a new job soon where i require my driving licence. Also my mum is disabled and uses a motability car. If i plea guilty and write a letter explaining these factors for mitigation, what is the likely hood of me getting just points and not a ban?
Thank you
Fizwan
Between which Junctions? Just before Leatherhead etc.. HmmI got caught doing 100 on m25 by them new speed cameras last year. Today i got a letter from the essex police asking to plea guilty or not guilty (bare in mind this is not the NIP). After looking on the internet, I understand that i looking at a ban. I have had a clean driving record this is my first offence. Im starting a new job soon where i require my driving licence. Also my mum is disabled and uses a motability car. If i plea guilty and write a letter explaining these factors for mitigation, what is the likely hood of me getting just points and not a ban?
Thank you
Fizwan
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