Hedges that encroach onto a footpath badly - Resporting it

[surveyor_101]

Somerset Highways seem a very special bunch, when there not doing 90 plus passed me on the motorway in mark up vans they are busy losing paperwork.( long story I called and ask why there marked highways van was driven by some speeding guy several mornings passed me. I was told they don't drive that fast in their vans. I sent dashcam footage. They then ok they do its data protection we can't tell what happens to the driver but thanks for the footage.)

The area inspector lost the paperwork and they have found it again. He has had a look and Section 154 doesn't apply apparently as its not a busy enough road only applies to a main road in his mind.

They will when they have a spare minute give the owner notification to sort in 28 days, (not 14 in the act).If after some undefined period they will then get it cut and bill them.

Edited by surveyor_101 on Thursday 16th February 13:47

[dreamer75]

Cold said:

But it wasn't your tree? What's there to be miffed about?

It looked like it, the way it had grown over my shed then spilled over the back of my fence as well as next door's. Was just a bit miffed nobody had just asked, as opposed to a surprising visit from a council official out of the blue!

[Gavia]

surveyor_101 said:

Somerset Highways seem a very special bunch, when there not doing 90 plus passed me on the motorway in mark up vans they are busy losing paperwork.( long story I called and ask why there marked highways van was driven by some speeding guy several mornings passed me. I was told they don't drive that fast in their vans. I sent dashcam footage. They then ok they do its data protection we can't tell what happens to the driver but thanks for the footage.)

The area inspector lost the paperwork and they have found it again. He has had a look and Section 154 doesn't apply apparently as its not a busy enough road only applies to a main road in his mind.

They will when they have a spare minute give the owner notification to sort in 28 days, (not 14 in the act).If after some undefined period they will then get it cut and bill them.

Edited by surveyor_101 on Thursday 16th February 13:47

Why does it matter to you that they're driving at 90+ on a motorway?

[Escort3500]

Gavia said:

surveyor_101 said:

Somerset Highways seem a very special bunch, when there not doing 90 plus passed me on the motorway in mark up vans they are busy losing paperwork.( long story I called and ask why there marked highways van was driven by some speeding guy several mornings passed me. I was told they don't drive that fast in their vans. I sent dashcam footage. They then ok they do its data protection we can't tell what happens to the driver but thanks for the footage.)

The area inspector lost the paperwork and they have found it again. He has had a look and Section 154 doesn't apply apparently as its not a busy enough road only applies to a main road in his mind.

They will when they have a spare minute give the owner notification to sort in 28 days, (not 14 in the act).If after some undefined period they will then get it cut and bill them.

Edited by surveyor_101 on Thursday 16th February 13:47

Why does it matter to you that they're driving at 90+ on a motorway?

Probably rushing to cut the overhanging hedge back from the footway

[surveyor_101]

Gavia said:

Why does it matter to you that they're driving at 90+ on a motorway?

I have had to survey a live motorway for highways England and I they should know better. When I am in a marked vehicle you represent highways and people who work on them if you don't give a monkeys abut limits and follo?ing distances why would joe public. If he was on a a road doing a survey and I passed him at 90 when he walking inches from a live lane I doubt he would be happy.

If he wants to do 90 do it in his own time vehicle and with his own fuel.

It's tax payers fuel never seen a hato car driven in a manor that caused me alarm! They are tracked and monitored and know how to behave on a network. I recently drove a marked commercial vehicle 480 round trip and stuck to every limit as it's a marked vehicle.

Edited by surveyor_101 on Sunday 26th February 21:18

[Gavia]

surveyor_101 said:

I have had to survey a live motorway for highways England and I they should know better. When I am in a marked vehicle you represent highways and people who work on them if you don't give a monkeys abut limits and follo?ing distances why would joe public. If he was on a a road doing a survey and I passed him at 90 when he walking inches from a live lane I doubt he would be happy.

It's tax payers fuel never seen a hato car driven in a manor that caused me alarm! They are tracked and monitored and know how to behave on a network. I recently drove a marked commercial vehicle 480 round trip and stuck to every limit as it's a marked vehicle.

What? You provided dashcam evidence, so you were in your car and were overtaken. Grow up, some people drive faster than you, it's not the end of the world. No matter how much you try to justify what you've done, you come across as a petty individual, who could well have ruined someone's career for no good reason.

[surveyor_101]

Gavia said:

What? You provided dashcam evidence, so you were in your car and were overtaken. Grow up, some people drive faster than you, it's not the end of the world. No matter how much you try to justify what you've done, you come across as a petty individual, who could well have ruined someone's career for no good reason.

He has passed me on several occasions at speed driving in an erractic manor. I offered dash cam evidence but they didn't want it.

Nothing petty if you work or have worked on highways you will appreciate how vulnerable you are. If you have stood on live carriageway you would see how vulnerable you are and how you don't need people going 90 plus when there people working. The last time I saw him and called in there was a 50mph advisory due to a broken down car in lane 1 and this clown passed me well over 90! Heroes just inches from someone who supposedly works for county highways.

90 in a van on the motorway will use a lot more fuel to gain what 5 seconds! Last time I got off the motorway I ended up behind the chump.


Ruined his career for know good reason.

So he chooses to drive 90-100 Daily in a works van with dash cams everywhere and chance of being caught speeding. But if someone reports him it's their fault his career is damage? Do you live with your mummy!

Grow up

12 years ago I went to court for totting up and nearly lost my licence and job. Then I realised that I can't drive and whatever speed I want without consequences to my live and job. I used to speed but realised it's pointless and took responsibility for my career and my own actions.

Edited by surveyor_101 on Sunday 26th February 21:26

Edited by surveyor_101 on Sunday 26th February 21:30

[Gavia]

surveyor_101 said:

He has passed me on several occasions at speed driving in an erractic manor. I offered dash cam evidence but they didn't want it.

Nothing petty if you work or have worked on highways you will appreciate how vulnerable you are. If you have stood on live carriageway you would see how vulnerable you are and how you don't need people going 90 plus when there people working. The last time I saw him and called in there was a 50mph advisory due to a broken down car in lane 1 and this clown passed me well over 90! Heroes just inches from someone who supposedly works for county highways.

90 in a van on the motorway will use a lot more fuel to gain what 5 seconds! Last time I got off the motorway I ended up behind the chump.


Ruined his career for know good reason.

So he chooses to drive 90-100 Daily in a works van with dash cams everywhere and chance of being caught speeding. But if someone reports him it's their fault his career is damage? Do you live with your mummy!

Grow up

Edited by surveyor_101 on Sunday 26th February 21:26

You're adding to the circumstances all the time. You're now saying that it was through roadworks, or some other reason to have people on the motorway, which was absent from your original comment.

Somehow I don't believe you. I think you're in a mood because someone in a van had the audacity to overtake you.

Don't resort to insults about whether I live with my Mum or not, that's just adding to your demonstration of insecurity.

All this because the council didn't send out an emergency response team to chainsaw their way through these conifers in a timeline that you deem to be acceptable.

[surveyor_101]

Gavia said:

You're adding to the circumstances all the time. You're now saying that it was through roadworks, or some other reason to have people on the motorway, which was absent from your original comment.

Somehow I don't believe you. I think you're in a mood because someone in a van had the audacity to overtake you.

Don't resort to insults about whether I live with my Mum or not, that's just adding to your demonstration of insecurity.

All this because the council didn't send out an emergency response team to chainsaw their way through these conifers in a timeline that you deem to be acceptable.

I am not adding, I was elaborating on my reasoning for reporting him. Since you consider anyone doing 20mph over pluck in a public sector funded vehicle or used for emergency services as being career record if someone reports that person. What happens if police had pulled him?. The guy is an adult and he has to be respojsbile for his actions same as all of us do. If he wants to drive like a dick in a highways van then he accepts his career could how down the toilet if he runs out luck one day. If he wants a career he has a responsibly to have some self control.

If you ran a business with vans and all your drivers drove like this guy your fuel bill could be 20% higher. They need to know.

I am not insecure I don't understand why you think this guy doesn't have to take responsibility for his own actions?

Why have you come to a several week old thread for an argument. They say they are Dealing with it and I am being patient i am not moaning. The incident with the van happened before I had cause to report the hedge so it's not some insecure petty attack for not dealing with it.

Edited by surveyor_101 on Sunday 26th February 22:01

[surveyor_101]

Gavia said:

You're adding to the circumstances all the time. You're now saying that it was through roadworks, or some other reason to have people on the motorway, which was absent from your original comment.

Somehow I don't believe you. I think you're in a mood because someone in a van had the audacity to overtake you.

Don't resort to insults about whether I live with my Mum or not, that's just adding to your demonstration of insecurity.

All this because the council didn't send out an emergency response team to chainsaw their way through these conifers in a timeline that you deem to be acceptable.

I am not adding, I was elaborating on my reasoning for reporting him. Since you consider anyone doing 20mph over pluck in a public sector funded vehicle or used for emergency services as being career record if someone reports that person. What happens if police had pulled him?. The guy is an adult and he has to be respojsbile for his actions same as all of us do. If he wants to drive like a dick in a highways van then he accepts his career could how down the toilet if he runs out luck one day. If he wants a career he has a responsibly to have some self control.

If you ran a business with vans and all your drivers drove like this guy your fuel bill could be 20% higher. They need to know.

I am not insecure I don't understand why you think this guy doesn't have to take responsibility for his own actions?

Why have you come to a several week old thread for an argument. They say they are Dealing with it and I am being patient i am not moaning. The incident with the van happened before I had cause to report the hedge so it's not some insecure petty attack for not dealing with it.

Edited by surveyor_101 on Monday 27th February 12:52

[Gavia]

surveyor_101 said:

I am not adding, I was elaborating on my reasoning for reporting him. Since you consider anyone doing 20mph over pluck in a public sector funded vehicle or used for emergency services as being career record if someone reports that person. What happens if police had pulled him?. The guy is an adult and he has to be respojsbile for his actions same as all of us do. If he wants to drive like a dick in a highways van then he accepts his career could how down the toilet if he runs out luck one day. If he wants a career he has a responsibly to have some self control.

If you ran a business with vans and all your drivers drove like this guy your fuel bill could be 20% higher. They need to know.

I am not insecure I don't understand why you think this guy doesn't have to take responsibility for his own actions?

Why have you come to a several week old thread for an argument. They say they are Dealing with it and I am being patient i am not moaning. The incident with the van happened before I had cause to report the hedge so it's not some insecure petty attack for not dealing with it.

Edited by surveyor_101 on Sunday 26th February 22:01

I didn't see that it was a few weeks old, it was high up in the page. I am not arguing. I asked youna specific question, which you haven't answered and seem to add to your story to justify it.

I drive at 90+ on the motorway as much as traffic allows. I have no problem being overtaken by others going faster. I see no need to report them. If the police pull me (or him), then we get a bking, a fine an dpoints or worse, but that's for the police to catch me (and him), not someone who can't cope with a van overtaking them.

Fuel bills for a business? Irrelevant. My fuel bills? I drive a very thirsty 4.0 V8, so the cost doesn't bother me. I don't run a fleet of vans, or have a business where I have to worry about fuel costs. Nobody needs to know that fuel bills can be 20% higher. Why do you believe they have to?

He drives quickly. On PH the argument is consistent that they'd rather be near a driver concentrating at a speed over the limit, than one half asleep at the speed limit. You seem to be arguing the opposite.

I fail to see why you need to report him, other than pettiness and I stand by that view.

[sebhaque]

^ I didn't know we had school holidays at this time of year.

[Gavia]

sebhaque said:

^ I didn't know we had school holidays at this time of year.

I don't understand the obsession with school holidays either. I'm not a child, I'm intrigued why he feels this is acceptable behaviour. If I started a thread saying I'm about to report another driver for driving at 90mph, then I'd expect to be roundly criticised on here, or just as likely be hit with a different PH cliché; go to mumsnet.

[littlebasher]

I guess somebody wasn't prepared to wait for a reply from the council..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4261982/Fa...

[Gafferjim]

Just to correct Surveyor 101, The only people driving on the motorway that work for Highways England are HATO's, all the other vehicles marked up as motorway maintenance are contractors or sub contractors, he should know that.

[surveyor_101]

Gafferjim said:

Just to correct Surveyor 101, The only people driving on the motorway that work for Highways England are HATO's, all the other vehicles marked up as motorway maintenance are contractors or sub contractors, he should know that.

Not strictly correct they have directly employed staff in marked Octavias.

However I did work for a managing area contractor. I did take out project sponsors at time who worked for The HE direct.

Not that it really makes a difference in this argument

[surveyor_101]

Gavia said:

I didn't see that it was a few weeks old, it was high up in the page. I am not arguing. I asked youna specific question, which you haven't answered and seem to add to your story to justify it.

I drive at 90+ on the motorway as much as traffic allows. I have no problem being overtaken by others going faster. I see no need to report them. If the police pull me (or him), then we get a bking, a fine an dpoints or worse, but that's for the police to catch me (and him), not someone who can't cope with a van overtaking them.

Fuel bills for a business? Irrelevant. My fuel bills? I drive a very thirsty 4.0 V8, so the cost doesn't bother me. I don't run a fleet of vans, or have a business where I have to worry about fuel costs. Nobody needs to know that fuel bills can be 20% higher. Why do you believe they have to?

He drives quickly. On PH the argument is consistent that they'd rather be near a driver concentrating at a speed over the limit, than one half asleep at the speed limit. You seem to be arguing the opposite.

I fail to see why you need to report him, other than pettiness and I stand by that view.

Your not in a marked local authority vehicle using tax payer tyres and fuel I would guess. Hence my point. They also have slow down and road safety msgs on some of their vans.

Plus you don't represent highways contractors. Any vehicle with Highway/motorway maintenance!

If in unmarked cars using your own fuel you want to drive at 90 I won't report you or upload footage. This was a specific case due to the van the person as driving, I suspect they will fit limiters to the next lot. We have tracking and driving behaviour monitoring in are commercial vehicles.

Edited by surveyor_101 on Monday 27th February 13:08

Edited by surveyor_101 on Monday 27th February 13:10

[Gavia]

surveyor_101 said:

Your not in a marked local authority vehicle using tax payer tyres and fuel I would guess. Hence my point. They also have slow down and road safety msgs on some of their vans.

Plus you don't represent highways contractors. Any vehicle with Highway/motorway maintenance!

If in unmarked cars using your own fuel you want to drive at 90 I won't report you or upload footage. This was a specific case due to the van the person as driving, I suspect they will fit limiters to the next lot. We have tracking and driving behaviour monitoring in are commercial vehicles.

Edited by surveyor_101 on Monday 27th February 13:08

Edited by surveyor_101 on Monday 27th February 13:10

We're never going to agree on this. I don't see any valid reason for reporting someone who is driving faster than me unless it's completely reckless and even then it would have to be really bad. Your initial comment only referenced thatbtheybwere doing 90+ and it's only later that you've added to their driving. If they were dangerous, then you'd have referenced that at the outset.

In any event, it's your call, but your obsession with the trees and taking it out on others is why I've chosen to describe your actions as petty.

Just as an aside, there is a significant between "are" and "our" as used in your last sentence.

Good luck getting the trees cut back, inagree that they are a hazard to pedestrians, but there are better ways to deal with this.

[surveyor_101]

Focusing on the issue of the bush.

I could approach the neighbours but that's gamble of outing myself. If they are nutters or don't like me asking I have reasonably close neighbour who I have fallen out with.

I have tried asking nicely before and had the police called on me by some nutter. This was a neighbour who drove like a loon and parked in other peoples off road parking.

The authorities have a process in place to deal this where I don't need to inter into conflict with the occupier.

[The Surveyor]

surveyor_101 said:

Focusing on the issue of the bush.

I could approach the neighbours but that's gamble of outing myself. If they are nutters or don't like me asking I have reasonably close neighbour who I have fallen out with.

I have tried asking nicely before and had the police called on me by some nutter. This was a neighbour who drove like a loon and parked in other peoples off road parking.

The authorities have a process in place to deal this where I don't need to inter into conflict with the occupier.

Have you not approached the council yet? What have they done?