Incitement to religious hatred....and other racist behaviour
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Devil2575 said:
Yes 3000 doesn't make a difference. It's a drop in the ocean.
Why would they be removed? I would have put money on them being allowed to stay, had the government not bowwed to pressure from 'frothing at the mouth' Mail and Express readers. They would probably have been more likely to contribute to our system than UK born person and felt far more grateful for what this country has done for them.
Also...not all Brexit voters are UKIP supporters but all UKIP supporters voted for Brexit...
"UKIP support seems to decrease with educational attainment..."
Go figure
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/6631026
ALL UKIP supporters voted to leave did they? I doubt a lot of them voted at all. Why would they be removed? I would have put money on them being allowed to stay, had the government not bowwed to pressure from 'frothing at the mouth' Mail and Express readers. They would probably have been more likely to contribute to our system than UK born person and felt far more grateful for what this country has done for them.
Also...not all Brexit voters are UKIP supporters but all UKIP supporters voted for Brexit...
"UKIP support seems to decrease with educational attainment..."
Go figure
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/6631026
Edited by Devil2575 on Sunday 12th February 08:05
bmw535i said:
It's not though is it? We don't have the foster careers for a start.
Child refugees are removed when they reach adulthood - it has nothing to do with what newspapers people read. I'd keep your money in your pocket if I were you.
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2016/02/09/r...
If that is the case then it is to our shame.Child refugees are removed when they reach adulthood - it has nothing to do with what newspapers people read. I'd keep your money in your pocket if I were you.
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2016/02/09/r...
bmw535i said:
Devil2575 said:
Yes 3000 doesn't make a difference. It's a drop in the ocean.
Why would they be removed? I would have put money on them being allowed to stay, had the government not bowwed to pressure from 'frothing at the mouth' Mail and Express readers. They would probably have been more likely to contribute to our system than UK born person and felt far more grateful for what this country has done for them.
It's not though is it? We don't have the foster careers for a start. Why would they be removed? I would have put money on them being allowed to stay, had the government not bowwed to pressure from 'frothing at the mouth' Mail and Express readers. They would probably have been more likely to contribute to our system than UK born person and felt far more grateful for what this country has done for them.
Child refugees are removed when they reach adulthood - it has nothing to do with what newspapers people read. I'd keep your money in your pocket if I were you.
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2016/02/09/r...
Have you had many dealings with refugees from the Middle East or been there yourself?
Devil2575 said:
All UKIP voters who voted will have voted leave. I bet the vast majority of them voted. If you think about your comment for a second you'll realise how silly it is.
I've been thinking about it and concluded that it's silly to think ALL UKIP supporters voted and then say that the majority will have. You can water your silly statement down further if you like. Did you miss my question about having experience of refugees or the middle eastern countries they come from?
bmw535i said:
Elysium said:
Why are they being deported at 18 and do you agree with that?
Those is the rules.Yes I do.
It seems odd to me to provide asylum for a child, allow that individual to spend their formative years in this country and then return them to the war zone from which they had fled.
bmw535i said:
Devil2575 said:
All UKIP voters who voted will have voted leave. I bet the vast majority of them voted. If you think about your comment for a second you'll realise how silly it is.
I've been thinking about it and concluded that it's silly to think ALL UKIP supporters voted and then say that the majority will have. You can water your silly statement down further if you like. Did you miss my question about having experience of refugees or the middle eastern countries they come from?
Anyone who considers themselves a supporter of any political party is pretty likely to vote, but especially UKIP.
Any person with a grain of intelligence would agree with what I said.
No I have no direct experience if middle eastern refugees. I've spoken to a few but that is it.
I'm done with this now. Talking to a pedant is boring.
Bye.
Devil2575 said:
To support UKIP and not vote leave would be about as silly as it gets. It would be like joining a cycling club but not enjoying riding a bike.
Anyone who considers themselves a supporter of any political party is pretty likely to vote, but especially UKIP.
Any person with a grain of intelligence would agree with what I said.
No I have no direct experience if middle eastern refugees. I've spoken to a few but that is it.
I'm done with this now. Talking to a pedant is boring.
Bye.
I'd agree that UKIP supporters would likely vote leave, but to say they all voted would be assuming. Anyone who considers themselves a supporter of any political party is pretty likely to vote, but especially UKIP.
Any person with a grain of intelligence would agree with what I said.
No I have no direct experience if middle eastern refugees. I've spoken to a few but that is it.
I'm done with this now. Talking to a pedant is boring.
Bye.
I think the lack of understanding of the rules regarding migrants lets you down a bit as does your stereotyping.
Elysium said:
What is the purpose of those rules and why do you agree with them?
It seems odd to me to provide asylum for a child, allow that individual to spend their formative years in this country and then return them to the war zone from which they had fled.
To remove adults who don't require asylum. I'm sure you'd agree that children are more vulnerable than adults? Perhaps you should do some research into the rules before you comment further?It seems odd to me to provide asylum for a child, allow that individual to spend their formative years in this country and then return them to the war zone from which they had fled.
Elysium said:
It seems odd to me to provide asylum for a child, allow that individual to spend their formative years in this country and then return them to the war zone from which they had fled.
just a point here - while the war has been ongoing for longer than we could have wanted (or indeed imagined) one would imagine that by the time children, as opposed to men (why is it always men?) pretending to be children, have grown up that it would no longer be a war zone?bmw535i said:
Fozziebear said:
If they placed the children with foster agencies it would be about £1000-£1500 a month due to all the extra help they would need, so it's about £36,000,000 to £54,000,000 a year to look after them. Once they turn 16 they could go into semi independent living, but I'd chance a guess that it wouldn't be until 18. I'm not sure of the figures for how many uk kids are in need of foster care and in group homes, but I'm sure it's more than 3000
That's a fair bit of money!! Apparently we're 9000 foster families short in the UK - that's before we start taking in a further 3000 Syrians. It's just not feasible.
bmw535i said:
Elysium said:
What is the purpose of those rules and why do you agree with them?
It seems odd to me to provide asylum for a child, allow that individual to spend their formative years in this country and then return them to the war zone from which they had fled.
To remove adults who don't require asylum. I'm sure you'd agree that children are more vulnerable than adults? Perhaps you should do some research into the rules before you comment further?It seems odd to me to provide asylum for a child, allow that individual to spend their formative years in this country and then return them to the war zone from which they had fled.
Once again, why do you think this is a good thing?
Why is it necessary to remove these children, who were clearly in need of asylum, from our society as soon as they can be legally described as an adult?
Elysium said:
So we take these children in, teach them how to be British, give them the illusion that they might be able to live a peaceful life in our privileged society. Then on their 18th birthday we decide that as adults we have no responsibility for them and we return them to a war zone, without doing anything to equip them for life in what to them is now a foreign country.
Once again, why do you think this is a good thing?
Why is it necessary to remove these children, who were clearly in need of asylum, from our society as soon as they can be legally described as an adult?
You still haven't read the rules have you?Once again, why do you think this is a good thing?
Why is it necessary to remove these children, who were clearly in need of asylum, from our society as soon as they can be legally described as an adult?
bmw535i said:
Elysium said:
So we take these children in, teach them how to be British, give them the illusion that they might be able to live a peaceful life in our privileged society. Then on their 18th birthday we decide that as adults we have no responsibility for them and we return them to a war zone, without doing anything to equip them for life in what to them is now a foreign country.
Once again, why do you think this is a good thing?
Why is it necessary to remove these children, who were clearly in need of asylum, from our society as soon as they can be legally described as an adult?
You still haven't read the rules have you?Once again, why do you think this is a good thing?
Why is it necessary to remove these children, who were clearly in need of asylum, from our society as soon as they can be legally described as an adult?
Elysium said:
I am not asking what the 'rules' say. I am asking why you support this.
Having an understanding of the process would be helpful instead of just assuming things. You didn't even know this happened until I told you - if you find out why it happens you may have a more balanced view on it instead of the slanted outrage you currently feel. Due to what you've already said, it seems clear you know nothing of the process or rules. singlecoil said:
Devil2575 said:
Any person with a grain of intelligence would agree with what I said.
You've been pulled up about that sort of thing before in this thread.
- By all I clearly do not mean abdolutely every one because there may have been some that didn't vote.
Devil2575 said:
singlecoil said:
Devil2575 said:
Any person with a grain of intelligence would agree with what I said.
You've been pulled up about that sort of thing before in this thread.
- By all I clearly do not mean abdolutely every one because there may have been some that didn't vote.
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