Nipped by a dog at work
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Ok, so the guys were on a house call, the customer was present and the lad (I say lad, I think he's around 24, so anyone younger than 34 is a "lad" to me), bent down to pet the dog. Apparently it was some sort of very small dog, I suspect small terrier or that sort of size.
He only told his boss when they left the house and the job was done. The wound was a 3mm small puncture.
Action is to record it in the accident book, send him to hospital to get a tetanus shot / make sure it's up to date and conduct training around dogs and animals in the work place for the next tool box talk.
He only told his boss when they left the house and the job was done. The wound was a 3mm small puncture.
Action is to record it in the accident book, send him to hospital to get a tetanus shot / make sure it's up to date and conduct training around dogs and animals in the work place for the next tool box talk.
I had the misfortune to work for an ageing old dear of an employer whose first & probably only love was some blasted dog she insisted on having with her all day long. The dam thing was forever wandering around the offices & was not trained to go outside to crap. When it did s
t on the Wilton some poor staff member had to clear the mess NOT the owner.
You can be assured that throughout the day unseen by the owner the dam dog got a regularly kicking but never got the message it was not welcome.
t on the Wilton some poor staff member had to clear the mess NOT the owner. You can be assured that throughout the day unseen by the owner the dam dog got a regularly kicking but never got the message it was not welcome.
Wildfire said:
Ok, so the guys were on a house call, the customer was present and the lad (I say lad, I think he's around 24, so anyone younger than 34 is a "lad" to me), bent down to pet the dog. Apparently it was some sort of very small dog, I suspect small terrier or that sort of size.
He only told his boss when they left the house and the job was done. The wound was a 3mm small puncture.
Action is to record it in the accident book, send him to hospital to get a tetanus shot / make sure it's up to date and conduct training around dogs and animals in the work place for the next tool box talk.
Fair enough then, Lesson learned by the lad hopefully.He only told his boss when they left the house and the job was done. The wound was a 3mm small puncture.
Action is to record it in the accident book, send him to hospital to get a tetanus shot / make sure it's up to date and conduct training around dogs and animals in the work place for the next tool box talk.
I have found that people with no experience of dogs don't quite know how to approach a strange dog, especially smaller ones. They tend to lean over the top of them and then bend down which is very dominant towards the animal. My mate does this and my spaniel hates that but she doesn't nip, she just barks her head off at him.
I always go down to the dogs level first, then lean forward, It always works and if the dog still doesn't like it, because you are not forcing their hand you can then safely pull back.
FiF said:
Realise you won't know but some considerations for your friend and his employee to think about.
What was the precipitating thing that caused the bite? Eg did he put something down, the dog nick it and then he tried to get it back, or what.
What signals did the dog give before going for the bite? Side eye? Nose curl? Baring teeth? Growl? Sometimes these can be subtle but if displayed none and went straight for the bite, that isn't good.
Depth of injury, is the 3mm the depth of the injury, or is it a puncture which has been ripped a little, see later.
Was it a single bite, say a single nip but with no bite inhibition, or several nips, or worst of all a bite with hold on and a shake. If the latter and with no warnings then imo it needs reporting.
Unless of course he was trying to stick a red hot poker up the dogs rear end in which case he got what he deserved. Not a serious example but hope you get my drift.
Hope that puts some helpful context.
None of that makes the slightest difference , he was on someone else's property and they let there dog bite him.What was the precipitating thing that caused the bite? Eg did he put something down, the dog nick it and then he tried to get it back, or what.
What signals did the dog give before going for the bite? Side eye? Nose curl? Baring teeth? Growl? Sometimes these can be subtle but if displayed none and went straight for the bite, that isn't good.
Depth of injury, is the 3mm the depth of the injury, or is it a puncture which has been ripped a little, see later.
Was it a single bite, say a single nip but with no bite inhibition, or several nips, or worst of all a bite with hold on and a shake. If the latter and with no warnings then imo it needs reporting.
Unless of course he was trying to stick a red hot poker up the dogs rear end in which case he got what he deserved. Not a serious example but hope you get my drift.
Hope that puts some helpful context.
Royal mail employees ( should) no longer even go onto a property if there's a dog loose , if a postie gets bitten then they investigate and get the householder to put a box on the outside of the property like on the fence/gate to prevent it happening again.
egor110 said:
FiF said:
Realise you won't know but some considerations for your friend and his employee to think about.
What was the precipitating thing that caused the bite? Eg did he put something down, the dog nick it and then he tried to get it back, or what.
What signals did the dog give before going for the bite? Side eye? Nose curl? Baring teeth? Growl? Sometimes these can be subtle but if displayed none and went straight for the bite, that isn't good.
Depth of injury, is the 3mm the depth of the injury, or is it a puncture which has been ripped a little, see later.
Was it a single bite, say a single nip but with no bite inhibition, or several nips, or worst of all a bite with hold on and a shake. If the latter and with no warnings then imo it needs reporting.
Unless of course he was trying to stick a red hot poker up the dogs rear end in which case he got what he deserved. Not a serious example but hope you get my drift.
Hope that puts some helpful context.
None of that makes the slightest difference , he was on someone else's property and they let there dog bite him.What was the precipitating thing that caused the bite? Eg did he put something down, the dog nick it and then he tried to get it back, or what.
What signals did the dog give before going for the bite? Side eye? Nose curl? Baring teeth? Growl? Sometimes these can be subtle but if displayed none and went straight for the bite, that isn't good.
Depth of injury, is the 3mm the depth of the injury, or is it a puncture which has been ripped a little, see later.
Was it a single bite, say a single nip but with no bite inhibition, or several nips, or worst of all a bite with hold on and a shake. If the latter and with no warnings then imo it needs reporting.
Unless of course he was trying to stick a red hot poker up the dogs rear end in which case he got what he deserved. Not a serious example but hope you get my drift.
Hope that puts some helpful context.
Royal mail employees ( should) no longer even go onto a property if there's a dog loose , if a postie gets bitten then they investigate and get the householder to put a box on the outside of the property like on the fence/gate to prevent it happening again.
If a dog nips at you because you aggressively move towards it and scare it, then it's your own fault. You shouldn't approach any animal you don't know if you don't know how to behave around it, and if you're planning on engaging with it you should make the owner aware so they can caution if necessary.
It sounds like it's a non-issue here, as the OP's 'lad' appears to have recognised he made a mistake/doesn't sound like he's worried about it (otherwise it'd have been raised as an issue immediately rather than off-handedly as they left).
Mercury00 said:
eldar said:
This little nip drew blood it appears. Is that really OK?
They were in the dog's home, it seems fair enough. If a stranger found me in their home I'd be happy to leave with a couple of 3mm marks!Meoricin said:
egor110 said:
FiF said:
Realise you won't know but some considerations for your friend and his employee to think about.
What was the precipitating thing that caused the bite? Eg did he put something down, the dog nick it and then he tried to get it back, or what.
What signals did the dog give before going for the bite? Side eye? Nose curl? Baring teeth? Growl? Sometimes these can be subtle but if displayed none and went straight for the bite, that isn't good.
Depth of injury, is the 3mm the depth of the injury, or is it a puncture which has been ripped a little, see later.
Was it a single bite, say a single nip but with no bite inhibition, or several nips, or worst of all a bite with hold on and a shake. If the latter and with no warnings then imo it needs reporting.
Unless of course he was trying to stick a red hot poker up the dogs rear end in which case he got what he deserved. Not a serious example but hope you get my drift.
Hope that puts some helpful context.
None of that makes the slightest difference , he was on someone else's property and they let there dog bite him.What was the precipitating thing that caused the bite? Eg did he put something down, the dog nick it and then he tried to get it back, or what.
What signals did the dog give before going for the bite? Side eye? Nose curl? Baring teeth? Growl? Sometimes these can be subtle but if displayed none and went straight for the bite, that isn't good.
Depth of injury, is the 3mm the depth of the injury, or is it a puncture which has been ripped a little, see later.
Was it a single bite, say a single nip but with no bite inhibition, or several nips, or worst of all a bite with hold on and a shake. If the latter and with no warnings then imo it needs reporting.
Unless of course he was trying to stick a red hot poker up the dogs rear end in which case he got what he deserved. Not a serious example but hope you get my drift.
Hope that puts some helpful context.
Royal mail employees ( should) no longer even go onto a property if there's a dog loose , if a postie gets bitten then they investigate and get the householder to put a box on the outside of the property like on the fence/gate to prevent it happening again.
If a dog nips at you because you aggressively move towards it and scare it, then it's your own fault. You shouldn't approach any animal you don't know if you don't know how to behave around it, and if you're planning on engaging with it you should make the owner aware so they can caution if necessary.
It sounds like it's a non-issue here, as the OP's 'lad' appears to have recognised he made a mistake/doesn't sound like he's worried about it (otherwise it'd have been raised as an issue immediately rather than off-handedly as they left).
FiF said:
Meoricin said:
egor110 said:
FiF said:
Realise you won't know but some considerations for your friend and his employee to think about.
What was the precipitating thing that caused the bite? Eg did he put something down, the dog nick it and then he tried to get it back, or what.
What signals did the dog give before going for the bite? Side eye? Nose curl? Baring teeth? Growl? Sometimes these can be subtle but if displayed none and went straight for the bite, that isn't good.
Depth of injury, is the 3mm the depth of the injury, or is it a puncture which has been ripped a little, see later.
Was it a single bite, say a single nip but with no bite inhibition, or several nips, or worst of all a bite with hold on and a shake. If the latter and with no warnings then imo it needs reporting.
Unless of course he was trying to stick a red hot poker up the dogs rear end in which case he got what he deserved. Not a serious example but hope you get my drift.
Hope that puts some helpful context.
None of that makes the slightest difference , he was on someone else's property and they let there dog bite him.What was the precipitating thing that caused the bite? Eg did he put something down, the dog nick it and then he tried to get it back, or what.
What signals did the dog give before going for the bite? Side eye? Nose curl? Baring teeth? Growl? Sometimes these can be subtle but if displayed none and went straight for the bite, that isn't good.
Depth of injury, is the 3mm the depth of the injury, or is it a puncture which has been ripped a little, see later.
Was it a single bite, say a single nip but with no bite inhibition, or several nips, or worst of all a bite with hold on and a shake. If the latter and with no warnings then imo it needs reporting.
Unless of course he was trying to stick a red hot poker up the dogs rear end in which case he got what he deserved. Not a serious example but hope you get my drift.
Hope that puts some helpful context.
Royal mail employees ( should) no longer even go onto a property if there's a dog loose , if a postie gets bitten then they investigate and get the householder to put a box on the outside of the property like on the fence/gate to prevent it happening again.
If a dog nips at you because you aggressively move towards it and scare it, then it's your own fault. You shouldn't approach any animal you don't know if you don't know how to behave around it, and if you're planning on engaging with it you should make the owner aware so they can caution if necessary.
It sounds like it's a non-issue here, as the OP's 'lad' appears to have recognised he made a mistake/doesn't sound like he's worried about it (otherwise it'd have been raised as an issue immediately rather than off-handedly as they left).
The easiest thing for this plumbing company to do in the future would be to ask for dogs to be kept in another room whilst there working.
Otherwise you'll have each home owner giving you instructions of the dogs likes/dislikes .
Edited by egor110 on Monday 20th February 18:40
egor110 said:
You invited the plumbers onto your property , it's up to you to make sure your animals don't bite them.
The easiest thing for this plumbing company to do in the future would be to ask for dogs to be kept in another room whilst there working.
Otherwise you'll have each home owner giving you instructions of the dogs likes/dislikes .
If the plumber is going to go out of their way to be bitten, you can't stop them. Or are you suggesting the homeowner should have told the 'lad' off and asked the Plumber to keep him under control?The easiest thing for this plumbing company to do in the future would be to ask for dogs to be kept in another room whilst there working.
Otherwise you'll have each home owner giving you instructions of the dogs likes/dislikes .
Edited by egor110 on Monday 20th February 18:40
Meoricin said:
egor110 said:
You invited the plumbers onto your property , it's up to you to make sure your animals don't bite them.
The easiest thing for this plumbing company to do in the future would be to ask for dogs to be kept in another room whilst there working.
Otherwise you'll have each home owner giving you instructions of the dogs likes/dislikes .
If the plumber is going to go out of their way to be bitten, you can't stop them. Or are you suggesting the homeowner should have told the 'lad' off and asked the Plumber to keep him under control?The easiest thing for this plumbing company to do in the future would be to ask for dogs to be kept in another room whilst there working.
Otherwise you'll have each home owner giving you instructions of the dogs likes/dislikes .
Edited by egor110 on Monday 20th February 18:40
If you have a nervous/ fear aggresive dog then putting it into a situation with strangers isn't really fair to your dog or the 3rd party.
Meoricin said:
If the plumber is going to go out of their way to be bitten, you can't stop them. Or are you suggesting the homeowner should have told the 'lad' off and asked the Plumber to keep him under control?
The same argument as a woman wearing a short skirt is asking to be raped? 
There are some flipping old women on this thread. Lad bends over small dog uninvited, scares it and gets a little warning bite. He's probably a dog lover and his intentions were good but maybe a bit clumsy. Somehow I doubt he's making a fuss about it. It's really a non story unless Mumsnet are on the case.
Accident book's been completed and maybe a tetanus boosters been done. He's probably enjoying a pint now after his exciting day.:-)
Accident book's been completed and maybe a tetanus boosters been done. He's probably enjoying a pint now after his exciting day.:-)
The Mad Monk said:
egor110 said:
if a postie gets bitten then they investigate and get the householder to put a box on the outside of the property like on the fence/gate to prevent it happening again.
How does putting a box on the outside of your house stop the postman getting bitten?Boosted LS1 said:
There are some flipping old women on this thread. Lad bends over small dog uninvited, scares it and gets a little warning bite. He's probably a dog lover and his intentions were good but maybe a bit clumsy. Somehow I doubt he's making a fuss about it. It's really a non story unless Mumsnet are on the case.
Accident book's been completed and maybe a tetanus boosters been done. He's probably enjoying a pint now after his exciting day.:-)
I bet he really enjoyed his wait in a&e for his tetanus shot after a day at work. Accident book's been completed and maybe a tetanus boosters been done. He's probably enjoying a pint now after his exciting day.:-)
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