1st March - 6points for mobile phone use at the wheel

[roofer]

croyde said:

Apparently loads caught today including a journalist on his way to cover this very story.

Good, but am i the only one who thinks it should be an instant ban ?

[croyde]

Not the only one. The texters, callers and facebookers need a wake up call.

[Gavia]

pingu393 said:

Until someone points me to something newer, this is the specific legislation that applies...

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2003/2695/regul...

Although, driving with undue care and attention always applies.



Edited to correct url formatting

Edited by pingu393 on Wednesday 1st March 14:06

FFS. Look up undue in a dictionary. Your sentence means that people are being done for paying more care and attention than necessary.

The phrase is without due care and attention.

[anonymous-user]

roofer said:

Good, but am i the only one who thinks it should be an instant ban ?

Not harsh enough, they should be publicly disembowelled obviously and their families killed!

[roofer]

cb1965 said:

roofer said:

Good, but am i the only one who thinks it should be an instant ban ?

Not harsh enough, they should be publicly disembowelled obviously and their families killed!

After watching a teenage girl go head on into a lorry on the A47 a few years ago. and seeing the phone in her hand, but her face on the windscreen, along with the front bumper, i'm inclined to agree.

[Gavia]

roofer said:

croyde said:

Apparently loads caught today including a journalist on his way to cover this very story.

Good, but am i the only one who thinks it should be an instant ban ?

Bit hypocritical given your speeding track record, plenty would like to see you screwed for the offences you've been done for.

Personally, mobile phone use bugs the hell out of me, but the chances of being caught are very low, just like speeding, so it takes a special level of dumb to get caught for either.

[pingu393]

Gavia said:

FFS. Look up undue in a dictionary. Your sentence means that people are being done for paying more care and attention than necessary.

The phrase is without due care and attention.

My bad. I shall go and get my bum slapped with a soggy lettuce leaf as a penance.

[Gavia]

pingu393 said:

My bad. I shall go and get my bum slapped with a soggy lettuce leaf as a penance.

Don't be daft, there's a lettuce shortage. Use a cabbage leaf.

[pingu393]

Gavia said:

pingu393 said:

My bad. I shall go and get my bum slapped with a soggy lettuce leaf as a penance.

Don't be daft, there's a lettuce shortage. Use a cabbage leaf.

fk it. I'll have a drink instead

[Ki3r]

croyde said:

Apparently loads caught today including a journalist on his way to cover this very story.

42 in six hours in Dorset.

[roofer]

Gavia said:

Bit hypocritical given your speeding track record, plenty would like to see you screwed for the offences you've been done for.

Personally, mobile phone use bugs the hell out of me, but the chances of being caught are very low, just like speeding, so it takes a special level of dumb to get caught for either.

Yep, getting done for doing 65 on a clear motorway is equally as dangerous... you 24 karat prick.

[pingu393]

Was it a BBC journo who was caught? The Beeb website was totally empty of this story. It must be fake news, as the BBC never misses a story, or bigs up a non-story

[Adrian W]

I see this as a cash machine, sorry not a popular thing to say but that's how I see it, I can do more with the built in gadgetry in my car than I can with my mobile phone (ipnone7) satnav, email, texts, calls, multimedia, web browsing, look at the news and weather, all legally, if it really was all about safety they would be making that lot illegal,

I know its been a crusade for all of the tabloids but are there actual verified figures for accidents specifically proved to have been cause by the use of mobile phones, and then accidents not caused by these devices.

The new style sat nav circular input gui on BMW's and Lexus's is a nightmare, it is impossible to operate it and not be dangerously distracted.............but that's ok.

Every day new models are being launched with even more stuff bundled into them, I can oporate all of the above at 70mph in the outside lane of a motorway legally (not safely) but it is illegal to touch a handset whilst stationary with the engine running, come on!

If they need to make laws to control driver safety lets do it properly.

Edited by Adrian W on Thursday 2nd March 13:00

[SS2.]

Adrian W said:

I know its been a crusade for all of the tabloids but are there actual verified figures for accidents specifically proved to have been cause by the use of mobile phones...

2015 - total number of reported accidents = 108,211
2015 - those accidents where mobile phone use was recorded as a contributory factor = 440

0.4%

[supercommuter]

SS2. said:

Adrian W said:

I know its been a crusade for all of the tabloids but are there actual verified figures for accidents specifically proved to have been cause by the use of mobile phones...

2015 - total number of reported accidents = 108,211
2015 - those accidents where they could prove a mobile phone use was recorded as a contributory factor = 440

0.4%

EFA

[SS2.]

supercommuter said:

SS2. said:

Adrian W said:

I know its been a crusade for all of the tabloids but are there actual verified figures for accidents specifically proved to have been cause by the use of mobile phones...

2015 - total number of reported accidents = 108,211
2015 - those accidents where mobile phone use was recorded as a contributory factor = 440

0.4%

EFA

No need to edit my post - those are the official, government released figures.

I'm sorry if you don't approve or if they don't align with your perception.

[Smokehead]

Hopefully it means traffic will flow better because the pea-brained roasters will be looking out of their windows rather than peering at their laps.

[speedking31]

supercommuter said:

Sorry but anyone defending using a mobile phone is a grade A bellend.

The amount of dicks I see swerving lanes because they are scrolling through some st social media in the morning is unreal. As i said before people should get an on the spot ban if you have your phone in your hand. 6 weeks would do nicely.

Driving without due care and attention covers those situations, including similar driving as the result of eating, smoking, changing a cassette, operating a satnav, getting something out of the glovebox, etc. Why would you want to single out handheld mobile phone use with a specific offence? Are you happy to see those others swerving about the road?

[yellowjack]

speedking31 said:

riving without due care and attention covers those situations, including similar driving as the result of eating, smoking, changing a cassette, operating a satnav, getting something out of the glovebox, etc. Why would you want to single out handheld mobile phone use with a specific offence? Are you happy to see those others swerving about the road?

Could I please borrow your DeLorean? I have some business to attend to in 1989...

[raspy]

Whilst today, the the police needs humans to observe you using your phone, that might at some point no longer be a limitation.

I believe this being tested on some UK roads prior to a launch at some point. I'm sure it won't be 100% accurate, but if machines, data & algorithms can make our roads safer for everyone, then bring it on. Personally as a geek I think this is an incredible achievement.

The act of using a phone while driving might be easier to police in the future, if new technology designed to identify offenders using speed cameras bears fruit.

US tech company Movidius, in partnership with Chinese surveillance camera company Hikvision, has developed a new camera that uses Deep Neural Networks to analyse footage in real time.

It is hoped that the artificial intelligence will be able to identify transgressions such as texting or not wearing a seatbelt without needing to send the data to a remote server. It will also be able to recognise each vehicle’s make and model as well.

While the technology is still in development, the Movidius boss Remi El-Ouazzane is confident that it could have "a large impact on the way infrastructures are being used.”

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-new...