1st March - 6points for mobile phone use at the wheel
Discussion
cb1965 said:
I read and send texts all the time while driving and will continue to do so. Hope that cheers everyone up 
Maybe this was an attempt at humour that fell totally flat? Maybe it's the truth. Either way, it's a pretty stupid thing to say, given that there's plenty of evidence of fatalities directly caused by some utter retard using a mobile phone whilst driving.I've demonstrated comprehensively that I can listen to two radio sets, operate one of them, AND take instruction via an intercom from my commander, and still have control of a vehicle sufficient to avoid hazards (including incoming enemy fire) outside. But I won't make calls, take incoming calls unless it's through Bluetooth, and definitely won't read or compose a text message whilst driving because the potential price I, or others might have to pay as a consequence doesn't bear thinking about.
Did the TV footage of that horrific crash on the A34 not teach anybody anything? Personally I think idiots also need to face more penalty points for sticking phones/satnavs/etc onto the windscreen directly in the drivers filed of view, and we should ban the inclusion of WiFi as a feature of new cars, because that's only going to encourage even more of Daddies' Little Princesses to discuss Beyonce Knowles' latest shade of nail polish while ignoring red traffic lights and narrowly missing mowing down pedestrians who are legitimately crossing on a green signal. Head down, reading a small screen whilst driving? You might as well drive around with your head up your own arse.
yellowjack said:
Maybe this was an attempt at humour that fell totally flat? Maybe it's the truth. Either way, it's a pretty stupid thing to say, given that there's plenty of evidence of fatalities directly caused by some utter retard using a mobile phone whilst driving.
I've demonstrated comprehensively that I can listen to two radio sets, operate one of them, AND take instruction via an intercom from my commander, and still have control of a vehicle sufficient to avoid hazards (including incoming enemy fire) outside. But I won't make calls, take incoming calls unless it's through Bluetooth, and definitely won't read or compose a text message whilst driving because the potential price I, or others might have to pay as a consequence doesn't bear thinking about.
Did the TV footage of that horrific crash on the A34 not teach anybody anything? Personally I think idiots also need to face more penalty points for sticking phones/satnavs/etc onto the windscreen directly in the drivers filed of view, and we should ban the inclusion of WiFi as a feature of new cars, because that's only going to encourage even more of Daddies' Little Princesses to discuss Beyonce Knowles' latest shade of nail polish while ignoring red traffic lights and narrowly missing mowing down pedestrians who are legitimately crossing on a green signal. Head down, reading a small screen whilst driving? You might as well drive around with your head up your own arse.
LOL, I use Siri... no hands off the wheel or eyes off the road. Now take this as an object lesson that when about to call someone stupid you should probably try and think a bit more first even if, as I suspect it is in your case, that will be really hard I've demonstrated comprehensively that I can listen to two radio sets, operate one of them, AND take instruction via an intercom from my commander, and still have control of a vehicle sufficient to avoid hazards (including incoming enemy fire) outside. But I won't make calls, take incoming calls unless it's through Bluetooth, and definitely won't read or compose a text message whilst driving because the potential price I, or others might have to pay as a consequence doesn't bear thinking about.
Did the TV footage of that horrific crash on the A34 not teach anybody anything? Personally I think idiots also need to face more penalty points for sticking phones/satnavs/etc onto the windscreen directly in the drivers filed of view, and we should ban the inclusion of WiFi as a feature of new cars, because that's only going to encourage even more of Daddies' Little Princesses to discuss Beyonce Knowles' latest shade of nail polish while ignoring red traffic lights and narrowly missing mowing down pedestrians who are legitimately crossing on a green signal. Head down, reading a small screen whilst driving? You might as well drive around with your head up your own arse.
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 28th February 14:55
SS2. said:
codenamecueball said:
The phone in a cradle thing will need a test case before we know for certain.
Mainly because I don't even think the police know what is and isn't okay, just the cut and dry offence of holding a phone is now even more serious.
If the phone is in a cradle then it doesn't need to be handheld and won't contravene the specific mobile phone legislation.Mainly because I don't even think the police know what is and isn't okay, just the cut and dry offence of holding a phone is now even more serious.
Nothing to prevent you from using a cradled phone and being prosecuted for other offences, though - not in proper control, careless driving, etc.
"Can you use your phone as a sat nav?
Yes – as long as you programme it before you start the car and set off and it's in a holder out of the 45-degree angle of the driver's view. You cant re-programme or touch it while in motion, the same rules apply for any sat nav."
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/motoring/to...
speedking31 said:
Maybe a reduction to 3 points if you attend a course, best of both worlds.
That can't happen under the current system.What happens is...
You are sent an NIP.
You admit guilt and opt for a course.
You attend the course.
The NIP is cancelled.
There is no mechanism to split the penalty.
speedking31 said:
BlackLabel said:
... out of the 45-degree angle of the driver's view. You cant re-programme or touch it while in motion, the same rules apply for any sat nav."
No way.Humans have a much wider field of view than 45 degrees. Is that the same 45 degrees depending on when they move their seat backwards or forwards, only when they're looking directly ahead? Are the police issued with protractors?
Presumably with the standard navigation and media units these days they also think you're not allowed to change the radio station. Or the temperature.
jhonn said:
Slightly off-topic I know, but does this also cover the use of CB radios/hand held microphones too?
Reason I'm asking is that on programmes like Top Gear/grand Tour you regularly see Jeremy & Co. driving with one hand while holding a conversation with his compadres, with the microphone in the other - often wondered if it was legal.
It shows how attitudes change - nowadays I think that this is not setting a good example!
When I was a van courier in the 80s, I was often stopped for using my 2 way radio whilst driving. Always a warning tho. Reason I'm asking is that on programmes like Top Gear/grand Tour you regularly see Jeremy & Co. driving with one hand while holding a conversation with his compadres, with the microphone in the other - often wondered if it was legal.
It shows how attitudes change - nowadays I think that this is not setting a good example!
Edited by croyde on Wednesday 1st March 11:24
croyde said:
jhonn said:
Slightly off-topic I know, but does this also cover the use of CB radios/hand held microphones too?
Reason I'm asking is that on programmes like Top Gear/grand Tour you regularly see Jeremy & Co. driving with one hand while holding a conversation with his compadres, with the microphone in the other - often wondered if it was legal.
It shows how attitudes change - nowadays I think that this is not setting a good example!
When I was a van courier in the 80s, I was often stopped for using my 2 way radio whilst driving. Always a warning tho. Reason I'm asking is that on programmes like Top Gear/grand Tour you regularly see Jeremy & Co. driving with one hand while holding a conversation with his compadres, with the microphone in the other - often wondered if it was legal.
It shows how attitudes change - nowadays I think that this is not setting a good example!
Edited by croyde on Wednesday 1st March 11:24
On LBC this morning they had a reporter out with the police targeting people using their phone whilst driving. They even had an unmarked HGV so that they could look down into people's cars.
But this was just one morning in a specific area of London. Can't see them doing that every day. As others have said, there are hardly any police on the road any more, just cameras aimed at speeders.
I repeat myself when I say this but 'if' I am making progress, I'm focused on driving the car and paying attention to every other road user, pedestrian, road conditions and obstacles.
As I'm doing this I see countless cars being driven erratically and dangerously BUT below the posted limit. Only one of us is going to cop a ticket.
I was stuck behind a woman in lane 3 yesterday. She was wandering all over the place oblivious to what was happening around her as she was having an animated discussion with her friend in the passenger seat.
Finally I undertook, yes I know, and continued with my journey. My car is loud and very brightly coloured yet she appeared to take no notice as she continued chatting ignorant of the big queue building up behind her.
We really do share the roads with morons, so giving them toys to play with in their modern cars really is daft.
A touch screen has got to be the worst idea by car manufacturers yet. In my old BMW I know all the switches by feel, so no need to take my eyes off the road yet my 2016 Mustang has a pretty unresponsive touchscreen which involves seconds of jabbing your finger just to adjust the heating. Stupid stupid.
But this was just one morning in a specific area of London. Can't see them doing that every day. As others have said, there are hardly any police on the road any more, just cameras aimed at speeders.
I repeat myself when I say this but 'if' I am making progress, I'm focused on driving the car and paying attention to every other road user, pedestrian, road conditions and obstacles.
As I'm doing this I see countless cars being driven erratically and dangerously BUT below the posted limit. Only one of us is going to cop a ticket.
I was stuck behind a woman in lane 3 yesterday. She was wandering all over the place oblivious to what was happening around her as she was having an animated discussion with her friend in the passenger seat.
Finally I undertook, yes I know, and continued with my journey. My car is loud and very brightly coloured yet she appeared to take no notice as she continued chatting ignorant of the big queue building up behind her.
We really do share the roads with morons, so giving them toys to play with in their modern cars really is daft.
A touch screen has got to be the worst idea by car manufacturers yet. In my old BMW I know all the switches by feel, so no need to take my eyes off the road yet my 2016 Mustang has a pretty unresponsive touchscreen which involves seconds of jabbing your finger just to adjust the heating. Stupid stupid.
Edited by croyde on Wednesday 1st March 12:47
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