Who gets the points?

[Sparkzz]

If I'm driving a car where my name isn't on the logbook, but I'm a named driver on the insurance. Do I receive the penalty points for a defective tyre?

[Jonno02]

Are you really asking if you get the points for driving an un-roadworthy vehicle, even if you're not on the log book?

[kiethton]

The points sit with whoever was driving the car at the time

[Druid]

Jonno02 said:

Are you really asking if you get the points for driving an un-roadworthy vehicle, even if you're not on the log book?

I think that's what he's doing!

[Sparkzz]

Jonno02 said:

Are you really asking if you get the points for driving an un-roadworthy vehicle, even if you're not on the log book?

Yes, doesn't the registered keeper have the responsibility of ensuring the vehicle is in a roadworthy condition? This is why I ask.

[Crafty_]

Sparkzz said:

Yes, doesn't the registered keeper have the responsibility of ensuring the vehicle is in a roadworthy condition? This is why I ask.

No, the driver does.

[Drumroll]

I am sorry but does the OP actually think that as he doesn't own a car he doesn't have any responsibility for it?

[Du1point8]

Sparkzz said:

Jonno02 said:

Are you really asking if you get the points for driving an un-roadworthy vehicle, even if you're not on the log book?

Yes, doesn't the registered keeper have the responsibility of ensuring the vehicle is in a roadworthy condition? This is why I ask.

You have the responsibility to check the car is road worthy before you take it on the road, if you cant even do that, then you shouldnt be on the road in the first place.

Everytime I drive a car that is not my own, its given a once over to make sure its fine before I go anywhere, pure common sense... I would rather I took 5 minutes checking then having a blowout at 70mph and crashing.

[mybrainhurts]

I've had two blowouts at 70mph and didn't crash. Front tyres, too. Just saying....

[Du1point8]

mybrainhurts said:

I've had two blowouts at 70mph and didn't crash. Front tyres, too. Just saying....

I would rather have non and spot a defective tyre before it gets to that.

[DIW35]

swerni said:

I assume you jack the car up, rotate the tyres while checking for any defects and the check all the fluid levels and break pads before seeing ?

Didn't think so

I'm sure he is happy to check the brake pads, but would probably struggle to even locate the break pads! Is any car fitted with break pads?

[grumpyscot]

mybrainhurts said:

I've had two blowouts at 70mph and didn't crash. Front tyres, too. Just saying....

Lucky you. My mate's tyre blew out at 40mph and he was killed. Just saying......

[jith]

Crafty_ said:

Sparkzz said:

Yes, doesn't the registered keeper have the responsibility of ensuring the vehicle is in a roadworthy condition? This is why I ask.

No, the driver does.

The registered keeper can also be charged for causing and permitting the offence.

J

[SS2.]

jith said:

The registered keeper can also be charged for causing and permitting the offence.

That would depend on a number of factors and certainly wouldn't be automatic.

[pits]

swerni said:

DIW35 said:

swerni said:

I assume you jack the car up, rotate the tyres while checking for any defects and the check all the fluid levels and break pads before seeing ?

Didn't think so

I'm sure he is happy to check the brake pads, but would probably struggle to even locate the break pads! Is any car fitted with break pads?

It was late

Break pads, aren't they the Travel Lodges at service stations?

Also totally your responsibility and your points, however equally responsible is the owner for having a substandard car

[brrapp]

The offence is for driving the vehicle. I've got several unroadworthy vehicles registered in my name but have no intention of trying to take them on a public road in their current state. It's not an offence to own an unroadworthy vehicle. If someone was to drive one of them on the road, they'd deserve the points (or a medal in the case of my old Landy))

[SS2.]

pits said:

Also totally your responsibility and your points, however equally responsible is the owner for having a substandard car

That too would depend on a number of factors and would by no means be automatic.

brrapp said:

The offence is for driving the vehicle.

It's 'using', which may or may not involve driving.

Edited by SS2. on Wednesday 22 February 11:08

[Mammasaid]

swerni said:

I assume you jack the car up, rotate the tyres while checking for any defects and the check all the fluid levels and break pads before seeing ?

Didn't think so

FLOWER

[pits]

SS2. said:

pits said:

Also totally your responsibility and your points, however equally responsible is the owner for having a substandard car

That too would depend on a number of factors and would by no means be automatic.

Sorry I have put that badly.
As the driver it is your responsibility and you will get points and fine for it, as didn't check vehicle as you should.

As the owner though, you really should look after your vehicle, especially if you're going to lend it out to people as your responsibilities is to look after your own car and keep it roadworthy, even if you don't get the points and fine and your mate does, even then you should have some moral obligation and at least pay the fine

[Sheepshanks]

SS2. said:

It's 'using', which may or may not involve driving.

Yes, if the offence was noted while the car was parked, it would be the RK who would be prosecuted.